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Post: 81422787_1 created on Wed, 01 Aug 2012 04:24:27 +0000
Posted: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 04:24:27 +0000

The human in question dies...and a NEW immortal being is born. In that case why would anyone WANT to be a homunculus? Characters like Ling are never coming back. I guess that's why Ed and Al couldn't bring back their mother. The person will never be the same...

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Post: 81422787_2 created on Wed, 01 Aug 2012 04:27:34 +0000
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The only thing appealing about being a homunculus is probably the supernatural strength and abilities. Who wouldn't want that? There are way more downsides to it though. I wouldn't really want to be an incarnation of one single deadly sin... talk about lack of personality.

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Post: 81422787_3 created on Wed, 01 Aug 2012 04:38:19 +0000
Posted: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 04:38:19 +0000

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And it wouldn't be YOU getting all of that power either. After seeing what happened to Ling, I was like "Damn...I don't think THAT is really what he wanted."

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Post: 81422787_4 created on Wed, 01 Aug 2012 04:41:55 +0000
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Although a homunculous isn't necessarilly immortal they still are far more resilient than normal humans. If you have a large enough philosophers stone you will be able to atain an immence amount of power, which is what father did. Sure you can still die but it takes much much more.

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Post: 81422787_5 created on Wed, 01 Aug 2012 04:44:22 +0000
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And it wouldn't be YOU getting all of that power either. After seeing what happened to Ling, I was like "Damn...I don't think THAT is really what he wanted."

Yeah, you would just become a shell of who you used to be, with a new agenda based around what you just so happen to get as your new persona. Ling was only able to relatively control himself because he became a homunculus while he was still alive... I don't think everyone would be that lucky.

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Post: 81422787_6 created on Wed, 01 Aug 2012 05:24:43 +0000
Posted: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 05:24:43 +0000

it's not immortality, no, they can still be killed. takes a while, and a lot, before they die and stay dead, but still. if anything it's closer to longevity in any variation of the show

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Post: 81422787_7 created on Wed, 01 Aug 2012 20:36:23 +0000
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No. Becoming a homunculus doesn't mean immortality. But all Ling saw was the homunculi's regenerative powers, and the fact that there was no actual flow of qi within them. He's no alchemist, so he couldn't have known about what being a homunculus really meant. No one really knew, actually.

And Ed and Al couldn't bring back their mother because human transmutation is impossible. Once a person dies, you can't bring them back. Death is permanent.

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Post: 81422787_8 created on Wed, 01 Aug 2012 22:32:43 +0000
Posted: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 22:32:43 +0000

Greed possessed Ling, BUT....Ling can control his body whenever he wants, later on in the manga and FMAB.

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Post: 81422787_9 created on Thu, 02 Aug 2012 05:20:20 +0000
Posted: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 05:20:20 +0000

It's as close as it gets to immortality in the FMA world. Wouldn't be too surprised if people grabbed at it.

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Post: 81422787_10 created on Thu, 02 Aug 2012 20:02:36 +0000
Posted: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 20:02:36 +0000

This sounds a bit like people are confusing homunculi in the first anime and Brotherhood. In the first anime, when Human Transmutation was attempted, someone else was born. Someone who looked like a monster from a horror film. When that person was fed Red Stones, which contained the souls of various people sealed in them by alchemy, that person came to look like the person who the alchemist wanted to bring back, and that person had some of the memories of the original person they had been modelled on, but they still weren't necessarily the same person.

In Brotherhood, only Father, originally the Dwarf in the Flask, created any homunculi, although Greed claimed that he could tell Ed how to do it. Lust stated, during her confrontation with Mustang, that as a homunculus, she basically was the same as a human, except for her regenerative abilities, her particular power, and her longevity. And since they contained Philosopher's Stones with the souls of several Xerxians inside them, you could even say that they had souls, of a sort. They certainly had personalities and quirks.

Just seems like an important difference to me.