Suicidesoldier#1
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- Posted: Sat, 31 Jan 2015 23:16:46 +0000
Why the purge would work
Now, as many of you know, there were a series of movies, produced by DeMonaco, which were formed around a core premise, of "The purge". The central idea is more or less that once a year, America allows all the criminals in the U.S. to basically do whatever they want, for a single night, get out all of their aggression and hate, all of their desire to destroy, for a full 12-24 hours, and that, for some reason, this has lowered the crime rate in the U.S. While the reasoning is ambiguous, and a lot like the matrix in that it's story is more or less a vehicle for ridiculous and insane action sequences, later iterations have suggested one of a few things, which is that people either are naturally violent and need a day to get it out of their system, or that by killing off all the poor people, crime goes down, or something or other like that.
Now, while I'm not a big fan of the idea, I've got an idea of how such a ludicrous, and stupid idea could work; although not in the way the original producers probably intended. It's simply stated in the purge that it "works", and they don't know how or why. Obviously, the majority of people have a relative sense of empathy, compassion, and caring, and doesn't want to seriously kill or hurt anyone, even if they think they deserve it, if they can avoid it. Without a relative sense of urgency to do so, most people are fine and complacent with never having to have had deal with the horror of actually killing someone.
The core central premise revolves around the laughable idea of "controlled chaos"; that we can all organize ourselves to give us a single day of Anarchy. Like criminals will all synchronize their schedules, and say "you know, I was going to kill my ex-wife in a fit of violent rage for burning the grilled cheese the third time these week because I'm a ******** pyscho (and also I think she's cheating on me), BUT, you know what, in the interest in fairness, I'll reserve my unrepressed rage until the day where I'm legally allowed to kill her. Or, like we could really trace it; I mean, if you committed a crime 1 hour later, would anybody really know that it was; DNA evidence can place you at the scene of the crime and can prove that you got blood on you, but if you just say "well, I killed her on Anarchy day!", how in God's name do you really prove otherwise? Today, all you have to do is prove that someone murdered someone else at all; now you have to prove the exact date. You could get away with crime hours beforehand and afterwords. Drug dealers will just decide that the money they make from systematic crime just doesn't compare to a day when they can unleash their animalistic tendencies, it's all about aggression, not about a desire for money or power. People, even if they did gather to commit crimes on the same day, could not realistically expected to be stopped; oh, I was going to murder my best friend's wife for not sleeping with me, but, the timer started buzzing signalling the end of the purge and well, I guess play time is over. Too bad, try again next year; I mean, and if someone did fail to kill you, would you go back to being their friend, or wouldn't you plot to kill them before then? So on and so forth.
The idea makes no sense, and completely ignores the core central basis to human behaviour, or really common sense. But, then, why do I believe it could "work"; now, I don't personally believe this is a good idea. In fact, I think it's horrible, and I'd never want to do it. But, as far as it "working" goes, that is strangely lowering crime, I think I can shed some light on that. In the movies, the good guys tend to win. Now, I personally believe that, in general, the good guys would win more often; aside from that 1-3% of society who lacks morals, is desperate, or are just plan evil, the majority of people are good. While this is a ballpark range, I think most people could agree it's between 95-99% of the population who are not likely to commit major criminal acts even if given the chance, and thus it can easily be said that we outnumber the bad guys; somewhere around 20-100 to 1. There's a minimum of 20 times as many good guys, and likely far more; so in essence, we outnumber the bad guys. Even if it's a one on one, 50-50 chance of survival, we at best lose a small percent of the population, while all the bad guys get killed, too. Now, while this leaves a lot of potential for innocent people to get hurt, while I'd never like it, and too much potential for damage, more or less, it does stand to reason that, we could take out all the bad guys.
See, all the really nasty, sick, disgusting pieces of s**t would come out all on one night to do bad things, essentially revealing themselves. All the rapists, child molesters, murderers, so on and so forth. And all of us good people would be ready for it; it's not, walking down the alley way at the wrong time in the wrong place, it's sitting on top of your house with a minigun waiting for the bastards to run down the street. The average person is not only likely more motivated, being less cowardly and selfish, as well as generally stupid and deranged as the average criminal, but likely in a good defensive position, banding together with their neighbours, to fight off the bad guys. We'd all be forced to learn how to fight, how to train, how essentially to be like a militia, which would bring us closer together, and help us fight for each other's lives, which would build a level of confidence never before seen; the aspect of controlled chaos would make it a lot like sports, where we could plan and get teams and gain comraderery for helping each other and learning to get better at what we do. We'd all need to be physically fit, trained, and have a lot of common sense revealed to us real quickly on what does and does not work. It might be a tad expensive to get good defenses, but we could easily go around in armed bands waiting to deal with the crazies; in fact, so effectively, that eventually, the purge may not even be a problem.
Off duty cops and military could be our bodyguards, people who generally want to do good, and we could just take out all the bad guys. Some innocent people would die, in relatively unprotected places, but, in general, I'd think we'd stand a fairly good chance against the 1% of the population who was that crazy. And that's just it; we'd kill them all. The purge isn't the weak being killed off by the strong, it's the crazies showing themselves, and us good guys killing them all off. Anyone who even tried to do bad things would get gunned down or taken out real quickly, due to vigilante violence, and more or less, we'd take out all the criminals or pyschos. The reason it could work is that, us good guys would be so much better than the bad guys that we could kill them all if they tried anything, and we would. In fact, vigilante bands might go around snuffing out gangs and people that we can't go after with warrants just yet, or that we only throw in jail for a few years on a drug charge before they get back out, and instead just wipe them out. All the organized crime, all the scum of society, would be at the mercy of people who wanted to wipe them out, and in general, they'd most likely be a LOT more effective, from better equipment and motivation, to inherently larger numbers.
In essence, while I don't realize believe in the silly idea concocted as a dumb reason to make a a crappy horror movie, for alternative reasons, the purge might "just work", simply because all the bad guys would get killed off during their attempted killing sprees. We as society would band together and fight them off so well that they'd practically disappear. And we could coordinate it all in one night, too.
It's not the inherent evil in all mean that we get out of our systems, it's the inherent good that causes us to rely on one another and work with each other for a common good, in this case eradicating the evil in the world as they try to attack us. One night of sheer terror, then they're gone. Easy peasy. We essentially, take out all the bad guys after they reveal themselves to us.
But what do you think ED?
Do you think the purge could work, or do you think it's just another silly pipe dream I've had from taking too much of this um... hard candy I found, down the street? (Real nice guy, though).
Now, as many of you know, there were a series of movies, produced by DeMonaco, which were formed around a core premise, of "The purge". The central idea is more or less that once a year, America allows all the criminals in the U.S. to basically do whatever they want, for a single night, get out all of their aggression and hate, all of their desire to destroy, for a full 12-24 hours, and that, for some reason, this has lowered the crime rate in the U.S. While the reasoning is ambiguous, and a lot like the matrix in that it's story is more or less a vehicle for ridiculous and insane action sequences, later iterations have suggested one of a few things, which is that people either are naturally violent and need a day to get it out of their system, or that by killing off all the poor people, crime goes down, or something or other like that.
Now, while I'm not a big fan of the idea, I've got an idea of how such a ludicrous, and stupid idea could work; although not in the way the original producers probably intended. It's simply stated in the purge that it "works", and they don't know how or why. Obviously, the majority of people have a relative sense of empathy, compassion, and caring, and doesn't want to seriously kill or hurt anyone, even if they think they deserve it, if they can avoid it. Without a relative sense of urgency to do so, most people are fine and complacent with never having to have had deal with the horror of actually killing someone.
The core central premise revolves around the laughable idea of "controlled chaos"; that we can all organize ourselves to give us a single day of Anarchy. Like criminals will all synchronize their schedules, and say "you know, I was going to kill my ex-wife in a fit of violent rage for burning the grilled cheese the third time these week because I'm a ******** pyscho (and also I think she's cheating on me), BUT, you know what, in the interest in fairness, I'll reserve my unrepressed rage until the day where I'm legally allowed to kill her. Or, like we could really trace it; I mean, if you committed a crime 1 hour later, would anybody really know that it was; DNA evidence can place you at the scene of the crime and can prove that you got blood on you, but if you just say "well, I killed her on Anarchy day!", how in God's name do you really prove otherwise? Today, all you have to do is prove that someone murdered someone else at all; now you have to prove the exact date. You could get away with crime hours beforehand and afterwords. Drug dealers will just decide that the money they make from systematic crime just doesn't compare to a day when they can unleash their animalistic tendencies, it's all about aggression, not about a desire for money or power. People, even if they did gather to commit crimes on the same day, could not realistically expected to be stopped; oh, I was going to murder my best friend's wife for not sleeping with me, but, the timer started buzzing signalling the end of the purge and well, I guess play time is over. Too bad, try again next year; I mean, and if someone did fail to kill you, would you go back to being their friend, or wouldn't you plot to kill them before then? So on and so forth.
The idea makes no sense, and completely ignores the core central basis to human behaviour, or really common sense. But, then, why do I believe it could "work"; now, I don't personally believe this is a good idea. In fact, I think it's horrible, and I'd never want to do it. But, as far as it "working" goes, that is strangely lowering crime, I think I can shed some light on that. In the movies, the good guys tend to win. Now, I personally believe that, in general, the good guys would win more often; aside from that 1-3% of society who lacks morals, is desperate, or are just plan evil, the majority of people are good. While this is a ballpark range, I think most people could agree it's between 95-99% of the population who are not likely to commit major criminal acts even if given the chance, and thus it can easily be said that we outnumber the bad guys; somewhere around 20-100 to 1. There's a minimum of 20 times as many good guys, and likely far more; so in essence, we outnumber the bad guys. Even if it's a one on one, 50-50 chance of survival, we at best lose a small percent of the population, while all the bad guys get killed, too. Now, while this leaves a lot of potential for innocent people to get hurt, while I'd never like it, and too much potential for damage, more or less, it does stand to reason that, we could take out all the bad guys.
See, all the really nasty, sick, disgusting pieces of s**t would come out all on one night to do bad things, essentially revealing themselves. All the rapists, child molesters, murderers, so on and so forth. And all of us good people would be ready for it; it's not, walking down the alley way at the wrong time in the wrong place, it's sitting on top of your house with a minigun waiting for the bastards to run down the street. The average person is not only likely more motivated, being less cowardly and selfish, as well as generally stupid and deranged as the average criminal, but likely in a good defensive position, banding together with their neighbours, to fight off the bad guys. We'd all be forced to learn how to fight, how to train, how essentially to be like a militia, which would bring us closer together, and help us fight for each other's lives, which would build a level of confidence never before seen; the aspect of controlled chaos would make it a lot like sports, where we could plan and get teams and gain comraderery for helping each other and learning to get better at what we do. We'd all need to be physically fit, trained, and have a lot of common sense revealed to us real quickly on what does and does not work. It might be a tad expensive to get good defenses, but we could easily go around in armed bands waiting to deal with the crazies; in fact, so effectively, that eventually, the purge may not even be a problem.
Off duty cops and military could be our bodyguards, people who generally want to do good, and we could just take out all the bad guys. Some innocent people would die, in relatively unprotected places, but, in general, I'd think we'd stand a fairly good chance against the 1% of the population who was that crazy. And that's just it; we'd kill them all. The purge isn't the weak being killed off by the strong, it's the crazies showing themselves, and us good guys killing them all off. Anyone who even tried to do bad things would get gunned down or taken out real quickly, due to vigilante violence, and more or less, we'd take out all the criminals or pyschos. The reason it could work is that, us good guys would be so much better than the bad guys that we could kill them all if they tried anything, and we would. In fact, vigilante bands might go around snuffing out gangs and people that we can't go after with warrants just yet, or that we only throw in jail for a few years on a drug charge before they get back out, and instead just wipe them out. All the organized crime, all the scum of society, would be at the mercy of people who wanted to wipe them out, and in general, they'd most likely be a LOT more effective, from better equipment and motivation, to inherently larger numbers.
In essence, while I don't realize believe in the silly idea concocted as a dumb reason to make a a crappy horror movie, for alternative reasons, the purge might "just work", simply because all the bad guys would get killed off during their attempted killing sprees. We as society would band together and fight them off so well that they'd practically disappear. And we could coordinate it all in one night, too.
It's not the inherent evil in all mean that we get out of our systems, it's the inherent good that causes us to rely on one another and work with each other for a common good, in this case eradicating the evil in the world as they try to attack us. One night of sheer terror, then they're gone. Easy peasy. We essentially, take out all the bad guys after they reveal themselves to us.
But what do you think ED?
Do you think the purge could work, or do you think it's just another silly pipe dream I've had from taking too much of this um... hard candy I found, down the street? (Real nice guy, though).