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Do you think the Star Trek movie coming out in 2012 will be good?

Yes! 0.39493136219641 39.5% [ 374 ]
No! 0.11615628299894 11.6% [ 110 ]
It depends! 0.3051742344245 30.5% [ 289 ]
Were all gonna die so it doesn't matter. 0.18373812038015 18.4% [ 174 ]
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Leorio25
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Kirk's meddling did not cause devastation, according to Starfleet record. McCoy caused the devastation of a planet before he joined the Enterprise, though. xd It was an accident, of course.


Where does one find this starfleet record?
Watching the entire franchise and reading all of the material gives you the most complete known elements of Starfleet's record. Kirk's record is fairly complete in the entire franchise but you cannot find it in a single document. No fan has yet constructed that data..


Your're talking about Star Trek Memory Alpha, right? Anything else is non-cannon.
Memory Alpha isn't even 100% complete. Memory Alpha is NOT the only Star Trek source; for instance, not all sources are online. A lot of CANON data is not on there yet. There also exists Memory Beta, for non-canon, official Star Trek material, such as the novels.


So we are debating with non-cannon material? I wan't going to count Memory Beta.
I was unaware that we were debating.

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Picard's violated the prime directive plenty of times. Besides, how do you know that society was fine after Kirk's meddling? Millions could have died (although, I think that was Roddenberry's point. It is better to not let machines fight humanity's war).


Which is a testament to the terribly lack of consistency with the show's writers. You really shouldn't have a character violate a major rule like the Prime Directive and then turn around and become a hard-line adherent to it.

I didn't say I knew everything was fine, but it's a logical assumption. The two societies engaged in that bizarre, artificial war because both were afraid of the massive casualties and damages a real war would have caused. It is highly doubtful that two civilizations that have built and lived out such a ritualized procedure to avoid outright devastation would immediately begin a "hot" war that would result in that which they most feared.

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Violating the Prime Directive is what made things interesting, leaving us always wondering if Kirk was ever going to get in serious trouble for it. Now that the show is old, and everyone knows how Kirk's story ends, it's not so exciting, but when there weren't spoilers everywhere, it was exciting.

Kirk's violation of the Prime Directive did start wars, though. And apparently it ended wars, too.

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To Mutant Headcrab: One could argue that the lack of consistency is really a case-by-case basis or a testimate to the fact that people change (or a testimate to lazy writers! ha!).

To DeKelley III: That's why I find the the 2009 Star Trek Movie so interesting. With this new timeline, anything could happen!

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Watching the entire franchise and reading all of the material gives you the most complete known elements of Starfleet's record. Kirk's record is fairly complete in the entire franchise but you cannot find it in a single document. No fan has yet constructed that data..


Your're talking about Star Trek Memory Alpha, right? Anything else is non-cannon.
Memory Alpha isn't even 100% complete. Memory Alpha is NOT the only Star Trek source; for instance, not all sources are online. A lot of CANON data is not on there yet. There also exists Memory Beta, for non-canon, official Star Trek material, such as the novels.


So we are debating with non-cannon material? I wan't going to count Memory Beta.
I was unaware that we were debating.
Isn't that what you do on forums? LOL

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To Mutant Headcrab: One could argue that the lack of consistency is really a case-by-case basis or a testimate to the fact that people change (or a testimate to lazy writers! ha!).

To DeKelley III: That's why I find the the 2009 Star Trek Movie so interesting. With this new timeline, anything could happen!
Not to mention everyone is effin' sexy in the new movie. LOL.

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Leorio25
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Watching the entire franchise and reading all of the material gives you the most complete known elements of Starfleet's record. Kirk's record is fairly complete in the entire franchise but you cannot find it in a single document. No fan has yet constructed that data..


Your're talking about Star Trek Memory Alpha, right? Anything else is non-cannon.
Memory Alpha isn't even 100% complete. Memory Alpha is NOT the only Star Trek source; for instance, not all sources are online. A lot of CANON data is not on there yet. There also exists Memory Beta, for non-canon, official Star Trek material, such as the novels.


So we are debating with non-cannon material? I wan't going to count Memory Beta.
I was unaware that we were debating.
Isn't that what you do on forums? LOL
Not always. sad I like to chit-chat.

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Memory Alpha isn't even 100% complete. Memory Alpha is NOT the only Star Trek source; for instance, not all sources are online. A lot of CANON data is not on there yet. There also exists Memory Beta, for non-canon, official Star Trek material, such as the novels.


So we are debating with non-cannon material? I wan't going to count Memory Beta.
I was unaware that we were debating.
Isn't that what you do on forums? LOL
Not always. sad I like to chit-chat.
Lol yeah me too, but debates are fun too.

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To Mutant Headcrab: One could argue that the lack of consistency is really a case-by-case basis or a testimate to the fact that people change (or a testimate to lazy writers! ha!).

To DeKelley III: That's why I find the the 2009 Star Trek Movie so interesting. With this new timeline, anything could happen!
Not to mention everyone is effin' sexy in the new movie. LOL.


Agreed!
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To Mutant Headcrab: One could argue that the lack of consistency is really a case-by-case basis or a testimate to the fact that people change (or a testimate to lazy writers! ha!).

To DeKelley III: That's why I find the the 2009 Star Trek Movie so interesting. With this new timeline, anything could happen!
Not to mention everyone is effin' sexy in the new movie. LOL.


Agreed!
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At least they managed to pull off sexy characters right. Enterprise's idea of sexy characters was showcasing T'Pol's rack as often as possible! exclaim

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To Mutant Headcrab: One could argue that the lack of consistency is really a case-by-case basis or a testimate to the fact that people change (or a testimate to lazy writers! ha!).

To DeKelley III: That's why I find the the 2009 Star Trek Movie so interesting. With this new timeline, anything could happen!
Not to mention everyone is effin' sexy in the new movie. LOL.


Agreed!
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I'll take Urban, Pine and Quinto please~

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To Mutant Headcrab: One could argue that the lack of consistency is really a case-by-case basis or a testimate to the fact that people change (or a testimate to lazy writers! ha!).

To DeKelley III: That's why I find the the 2009 Star Trek Movie so interesting. With this new timeline, anything could happen!
Not to mention everyone is effin' sexy in the new movie. LOL.


Agreed!
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I'll take Urban, Pine and Quinto please~


not if I take Urban first.....

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Leorio25
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To Mutant Headcrab: One could argue that the lack of consistency is really a case-by-case basis or a testimate to the fact that people change (or a testimate to lazy writers! ha!).

To DeKelley III: That's why I find the the 2009 Star Trek Movie so interesting. With this new timeline, anything could happen!
Not to mention everyone is effin' sexy in the new movie. LOL.


Agreed!
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I'll take Urban, Pine and Quinto please~


not if I take Urban first.....

Neeeeever.

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To Mutant Headcrab: One could argue that the lack of consistency is really a case-by-case basis or a testimate to the fact that people change (or a testimate to lazy writers! ha!).

To DeKelley III: That's why I find the the 2009 Star Trek Movie so interesting. With this new timeline, anything could happen!
Not to mention everyone is effin' sexy in the new movie. LOL.


Agreed!
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I'll take Urban, Pine and Quinto please~


not if I take Urban first.....

Neeeeever.


Oh no you don't

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I'll take Urban, Pine and Quinto please~


not if I take Urban first.....

Neeeeever.


Oh no you don't

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I love Chris's expression. XD
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