So, the Sword Art Online light novel...

[The Millenium Walken]

I found it on the shelf two days ago, and picked it up. I'm now three chapters in, and to my delight, the writing is ridiculously incompetent. I'd like to think it's a side effect of the translation, but there's repetitive paragraph structure, questionable wording, poorly segued exposition dumps right in the middle of otherwise brief conversations, and purple prose out the virtual a**. This is exactly what I was expecting, only better.

Have you read it yet? Are you going to pick it up?

[Mugetsu Ookamiza]

the first SAO novel is basically their first novel they wrote (back in 2002 no less, originally for a contest but then published as a webnovel instead) so some of that is excusable. however, most starting authors I've read have shown much more improvement in subsequent novels than I've noticed in the SAO series so it's not on my priority reading list and I'm not that far in so I can't say for sure if they ever significantly improved in their writing. I may pick it up just to see how the official translation compares to the fantranslation tho. once I get more income anyway.

[-Soul in this universe-]

I'll buy it.

[Neon Wasteland]

yeah i read the LN's up to the last arc. Then i couldn't find it anymore. Something about him getting shot and seeing an alice?

Anyways the first novel was just a 15 year olds fantasy ( which was his age when he wrote it ) So judging from that of course it's ridiculous. It get's better though and the Gun Gale arc is the better one.

[Javier Cross]

Mugetsu Ookamiza

the first SAO novel is basically their first novel they wrote (back in 2002 no less, originally for a contest but then published as a webnovel instead) so some of that is excusable. however, most starting authors I've read have shown much more improvement in subsequent novels than I've noticed in the SAO series so it's not on my priority reading list and I'm not that far in so I can't say for sure if they ever significantly improved in their writing. I may pick it up just to see how the official translation compares to the fantranslation tho. once I get more income anyway.

How does the first Sword Art Online Novel stack up to Storm Front The first volume of The Dresden Files by Jim Butcher?
Please be honest with me at least as far as amounts of developments are concerned.

[So As I Pray]

Neon Wasteland

yeah i read the LN's up to the last arc. Then i couldn't find it anymore. Something about him getting shot and seeing an alice?

Anyways the first novel was just a 15 year olds fantasy ( which was his age when he wrote it ) So judging from that of course it's ridiculous. It get's better though and the Gun Gale arc is the better one.

Yeah, the first few are a bit tiresome to get through, but I feel like the writing has at least improved some. I think you've read one later than I have, but I can't seem to find anything beyond Alicization running and I'm too lazy to look more.

[Mugetsu Ookamiza]

Javier Cross

Mugetsu Ookamiza

the first SAO novel is basically their first novel they wrote (back in 2002 no less, originally for a contest but then published as a webnovel instead) so some of that is excusable. however, most starting authors I've read have shown much more improvement in subsequent novels than I've noticed in the SAO series so it's not on my priority reading list and I'm not that far in so I can't say for sure if they ever significantly improved in their writing. I may pick it up just to see how the official translation compares to the fantranslation tho. once I get more income anyway.

How does the first Sword Art Online Novel stack up to Storm Front The first volume of The Dresden Files by Jim Butcher?
Please be honest with me at least as far as amounts of developments are concerned.

it's been a while since I've read the first Dresden Files novel (altho I am due for a rereading of it) but I remember getting totally sucked into it and finding the characters interesting in it. also, as far as first novels go the fact Storm Front was his first novel didn't stick out like a sore thumb and wasn't obvious.

SAO was rather painfully obvious it was their first novel even figuring in issues involved in translating it (especially given it was a fantranslation I read before it got licensed). the characters came off as a bit flat, and the pacing was awkward (not Demon King Daimao anime awkward, but that was trainwreck bad pacing for that). the plot was entertaining enough, but it could have been a far better read, especially if the author had taken the fact it was getting a printed run a few years after it was out in webnovel form to polish it up more (altho at least they took the porn chapter out for the print run, which WAS a VERY DEFINITE improvement as it made some of the pornfics you can find on fanfiction.net look well written, I seriously laughed out loud reading it).

[Neon Wasteland]

So As I Pray

Neon Wasteland

yeah i read the LN's up to the last arc. Then i couldn't find it anymore. Something about him getting shot and seeing an alice?

Anyways the first novel was just a 15 year olds fantasy ( which was his age when he wrote it ) So judging from that of course it's ridiculous. It get's better though and the Gun Gale arc is the better one.

Yeah, the first few are a bit tiresome to get through, but I feel like the writing has at least improved some. I think you've read one later than I have, but I can't seem to find anything beyond Alicization running and I'm too lazy to look more.

I don't even remember I know it was the Alicization Running one . I don't think he was shot just put into a coma and disappeared and Asuna is trying to find him and you know all the fun s**t.

It's been awhile since i've read it and i'm to faded to remember lol..

[vampire_queen7]

I've seen them the last few times I went to the book store but I always neglected picking them up. I thought about it once, but I have manga I actually enjoy that I want to buy the Light Novels to, so they take priority.

[Javier Cross]

Mugetsu Ookamiza

Javier Cross

Mugetsu Ookamiza

the first SAO novel is basically their first novel they wrote (back in 2002 no less, originally for a contest but then published as a webnovel instead) so some of that is excusable. however, most starting authors I've read have shown much more improvement in subsequent novels than I've noticed in the SAO series so it's not on my priority reading list and I'm not that far in so I can't say for sure if they ever significantly improved in their writing. I may pick it up just to see how the official translation compares to the fantranslation tho. once I get more income anyway.

How does the first Sword Art Online Novel stack up to Storm Front The first volume of The Dresden Files by Jim Butcher?
Please be honest with me at least as far as amounts of developments are concerned.

it's been a while since I've read the first Dresden Files novel (although I am due for a rereading of it) but I remember getting totally sucked into it and finding the characters interesting in it. also, as far as first novels go the fact Storm Front was his first novel didn't stick out like a sore thumb and wasn't obvious.

SAO was rather painfully obvious it was their first novel even figuring in issues involved in translating it (especially given it was a fantranslation I read before it got licensed). the characters came off as a bit flat, and the pacing was awkward (not Demon King Daimao anime awkward, but that was trainwreck bad pacing for that). the plot was entertaining enough, but it could have been a far better read, especially if the author had taken the fact it was getting a printed run a few years after it was out in webnovel form to polish it up more (altho at least they took the porn chapter out for the print run, which WAS a VERY DEFINITE improvement as it made some of the pornfics you can find on fanfiction.net look well written, I seriously laughed out loud reading it).

I find it kind of pseudo-sadistic to find The Dresden Files vs Sword Art Online to be a fair and square universe 'War' to suggest around, let alone Post-Changes Harry Dresden vs Kirito for that matter.

When The World of Codex Alera vs Sword Art Online might be far fairer a fight to fathom instead than TDF vs SAO, really.
What the hell is wrong with me when I find sending all the Antagonists of The Dresden Files into The World of SAO together?


May I invite you to the following thread involving House of Night so we can discuss how Sword Art Online(novel-wise) fares against that mess from P.C and Kristen Cast, let alone 50 Shades by E.L James for that matter?

Reading the first page is optional.

[Mugetsu Ookamiza]

Javier Cross

Mugetsu Ookamiza

Javier Cross

Mugetsu Ookamiza

the first SAO novel is basically their first novel they wrote (back in 2002 no less, originally for a contest but then published as a webnovel instead) so some of that is excusable. however, most starting authors I've read have shown much more improvement in subsequent novels than I've noticed in the SAO series so it's not on my priority reading list and I'm not that far in so I can't say for sure if they ever significantly improved in their writing. I may pick it up just to see how the official translation compares to the fantranslation tho. once I get more income anyway.

How does the first Sword Art Online Novel stack up to Storm Front The first volume of The Dresden Files by Jim Butcher?
Please be honest with me at least as far as amounts of developments are concerned.

it's been a while since I've read the first Dresden Files novel (although I am due for a rereading of it) but I remember getting totally sucked into it and finding the characters interesting in it. also, as far as first novels go the fact Storm Front was his first novel didn't stick out like a sore thumb and wasn't obvious.

SAO was rather painfully obvious it was their first novel even figuring in issues involved in translating it (especially given it was a fantranslation I read before it got licensed). the characters came off as a bit flat, and the pacing was awkward (not Demon King Daimao anime awkward, but that was trainwreck bad pacing for that). the plot was entertaining enough, but it could have been a far better read, especially if the author had taken the fact it was getting a printed run a few years after it was out in webnovel form to polish it up more (altho at least they took the porn chapter out for the print run, which WAS a VERY DEFINITE improvement as it made some of the pornfics you can find on fanfiction.net look well written, I seriously laughed out loud reading it).

I find it kind of pseudo-sadistic to find The Dresden Files vs Sword Art Online to be a fair and square universe 'War' to suggest around, let alone Post-Changes Harry Dresden vs Kirito for that matter.

When The World of Codex Alera vs Sword Art Online might be far fairer a fight to fathom instead than TDF vs SAO, really.
What the hell is wrong with me when I find sending all the Antagonists of The Dresden Files into The World of SAO together?


May I invite you to the following thread involving House of Night so we can discuss how Sword Art Online(novel-wise) fares against that mess from P.C and Kristen Cast, let alone 50 Shades by E.L James for that matter?

Reading the first page is optional.

unfortunately(?) I have little to no experience with the other works you're discussing in that thread.

[Javier Cross]

Mugetsu Ookamiza

Javier Cross

Mugetsu Ookamiza

Javier Cross

Mugetsu Ookamiza

the first SAO novel is basically their first novel they wrote (back in 2002 no less, originally for a contest but then published as a webnovel instead) so some of that is excusable. however, most starting authors I've read have shown much more improvement in subsequent novels than I've noticed in the SAO series so it's not on my priority reading list and I'm not that far in so I can't say for sure if they ever significantly improved in their writing. I may pick it up just to see how the official translation compares to the fantranslation tho. once I get more income anyway.

How does the first Sword Art Online Novel stack up to Storm Front The first volume of The Dresden Files by Jim Butcher?
Please be honest with me at least as far as amounts of developments are concerned.

it's been a while since I've read the first Dresden Files novel (although I am due for a rereading of it) but I remember getting totally sucked into it and finding the characters interesting in it. also, as far as first novels go the fact Storm Front was his first novel didn't stick out like a sore thumb and wasn't obvious.

SAO was rather painfully obvious it was their first novel even figuring in issues involved in translating it (especially given it was a fantranslation I read before it got licensed). the characters came off as a bit flat, and the pacing was awkward (not Demon King Daimao anime awkward, but that was trainwreck bad pacing for that). the plot was entertaining enough, but it could have been a far better read, especially if the author had taken the fact it was getting a printed run a few years after it was out in webnovel form to polish it up more (altho at least they took the porn chapter out for the print run, which WAS a VERY DEFINITE improvement as it made some of the pornfics you can find on fanfiction.net look well written, I seriously laughed out loud reading it).

I find it kind of pseudo-sadistic to find The Dresden Files vs Sword Art Online to be a fair and square universe 'War' to suggest around, let alone Post-Changes Harry Dresden vs Kirito for that matter.

When The World of Codex Alera vs Sword Art Online might be far fairer a fight to fathom instead than TDF vs SAO, really.
What the hell is wrong with me when I find sending all the Antagonists of The Dresden Files into The World of SAO together?


May I invite you to the following thread involving House of Night so we can discuss how Sword Art Online(novel-wise) fares against that mess from P.C and Kristen Cast, let alone 50 Shades by E.L James for that matter?

Reading the first page is optional.

unfortunately(?) I have little to no experience with the other works you're discussing in that thread.

Never say I never tried.

In the meantime, there's a bloody good reason why I'm trying to judge SAO by Anime-wise rather than Literary-wise, because the last thing I wanna wind up doing is judging it under my Ultra-High standards beyond Anime-wise, in fact.

You are not blaming me for admitting it, are you?

[Javier Cross]

So what are the latest reports?