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The Big V's Review (5): Guest contributions by Kakita Shinju
My good friend Shinju was recruiting for fighters in the FFA the other day when he stumbled upon a seeming well known man named Dyne Tazon. I have known about Dyne and his act for some time, however I was presented with startling evidence today that this man is much much less then any of us (With the exception of those who thought he was already pretty low) suspected. I must be frank, even I had thought this man was somewhat of a prodigy.

I stand corrected. These quotes are completely unaltered (with the exception of one of the latter ones, in which Shinju asked me to touch up his spelling) and here for you, my faithful readers to judge on your own:


(Soon after their meeting in the FFA Shinju, at my command, extends the an offer to Dyne to work for yours truly. Dyne makes the respectable call to have a trial by combat, if Shinju beat him he would join up. After the second post Dyne had "crushed Shinju's hand with gravity". Shinju got pissed. What followed was one of the most enlightening conversations this man has seen in quite some time)




Kakita Shinju
Dyne Tazon
Kakita Shinju
Dyne Tazon
Kakita Shinju
Dyne Tazon
Posted
I've noticed, how savage of you.


Teeeheee, I could have done it much easier, an melee wise like a good little boy, but 'er I just had sex, and felt the need to do something slightly cruel. 4laugh
Sure. Nevertheless nonchalantly controlling the fabric of the universe is despicable, at best. I'm not amused, and I find that in extremely poor taste. Win with brains and wit, not godlike powers that you didn't earn.


I've had Dyne Tazon, or rather this Tazon, for over five years. You can go look through my post history, ask some of my friends, they will answer similar. Dyne was originally, Hatoki....Then he was transcended into Orannis, and now currently Dyne, but he was always a Tazon, he even has a family now, I only rp Dyne though.

And this Tazon, believe it or not, started off as a boy, with a stick/cane. So you can only imagine how much Dyne has EARNED. wink
You've taken the most insignificant part of my argument and capitalized on it. Congratulations. You want the "Earned s**t" award? It's yours.

Now explain why your character is somehow allowed to wield godlike powers and control forces who's mere existence outside of the normal spectrum of their existence could rock the stability of the known universe?

I look over your abilities and realize that there are other beings that can control such forces: stars and giant astrological bodies that take hundreds of millions of years to produce what you flagrantly throw out on a daily basis. That would be parallel to me blowing you up with a flick of my wrist by harnessing your own internal fluids.

Fair?

You bet your a** it isn't
.


Kakita Shinju
Dyne Tazon
Im not Kiyoshi right now, and be fair? I have been fair, I could have done some cheezy little move and end you WITHOUT even using the kinesis. People like you RUIN rping, you must b***h and whine about the littlest of things, get over it, the attack is not at all that hard to counter, use your brain.

Tsk, I thought you came to challenge me, not bore me. If you wanted me to fight only melee, then you should have stated that.

As for how my character does such, this is what I meant by EARNING, he is a from a race I created 5 years ago one day, out of boredom, and I have built upon this. I'll tell you more after our little show, considering if I told you, it would be Cleoing, now entertain me and quit being a cheap a**. whee
I ruin RPing? Quite the contrary, I yearn to make it fair.

Roleplaying is not about winning, it is about acting. This is my greatest grudge with people like you. You savor the taste of victory so much that you create characters that can achieve it no matter what; you call this gradual fall from grace "progress" when all you are doing is hiding your insecurities behind powerful techniques. This is one of gaia's fatal flaws, when the battle system comes out every man will have to EARN his power, not simply create it for himself. However the battle system is not out, and people still need words and ideas. Your ideas, faithfully copied directly from wikipedia, are mildly inventive I can only conclude that they are perversions of true strength, which stems from the adaptable mind, not the concrete "power" you possess. Therefore I have to conclude that you, Dyne Tazon, are a fraud, tricking all of your lessers into believing you are a superior RPer when in actuality you are only a mediocre RPer that had the idea to make your character inconceivably powerful. I find myself having no respect for this, and consequentially I will do this in honor for your seemingly undeserved reputation:

I will ask you humbly to stop all of this foolishness now, and go back to what you once were. You told me that you had to "earn" this power, which no being can truly earn, and that would connotate that at one time you had a legitimate character that got by on intelligence rather then the abuse of power. I implore you to return to this state and re-think your character. Until then you can consider our battle on hold. I do not fight cheaters.



Dyne Tazon
I didn't read a word of that, now post or vanish.


Well, first of all I would like to thank Shinju for giving me this conversation. You're doing the FFA and all of gaia a great service. I would also like to show this before we move on to the actual rant:

Dyne Tazon
OOC: The kid, couldn't understand, so he beeched, as per usual. So the entire "fight" is nixxed.

In the future, if you WANT me to fight Melee/Magic/Kinesis/Planar, please TELL me before hand, I do not ******** read minds, so I assume you are prepared to take what is dealt. Don't b***h at me when you can't handle it.


Dyne yawned.


Mr. Tanzon, from the staff of The Big V's review:

Go Blow Yourself.

How dare you insult Shinju after he royally splattered s**t all over your face in those PM's? You deserve this rant against you and so much more.

By looking at this post we see that this dumbass neither understood nor even tried to comprehend the intelligent words that Shinju had said. In fact right about from the first word on there we can see Mr. Tanzon stroking his enormous ego, and ego which I am happy to say is generally undeserved.

For the most part, this conversation speaks for itself, but for the slow among us I'll dumb down Shinju's excellent vocabulary to explain what he's saying:

Gaia, folks, isn't about fighting. Roleplaying isn't just about fighting either. Roleplaying is the simulation of real life with sometimes slight alterations, like different races or abilities. However one thing that most people enjoy about the world of roleplaying is that it is completely fair. Everyone gets a chance to be who they want and act as they see fit. If you want to be a bad a** biker in character to hide from your real life issues about being a oppressed schoolgirl, that's great. If you want to be an innocent schoolgirl to feel the nostalgia of the time before you lost your virginity to scumbag Joe from the projects, nostalgia away. We don't mind as everyone has the right to roleplay as they see fit.

But Dyne doesn't see it that way.

In his world there seems to be a hierarchy, and his hierarchy does not allow for this freedom of choice and this fair equality that is the basis of good roleplaying. For as Shunju says- "Roleplaying is not about winning, it is about acting.", and he is 100% correct. However in Dyne's world he would only allow fighters like himself, those who possess abilities far beyond the scope of a mere mortal to control, to be allowed the freedom to do whatever they wish. Everyone either is crushed under his infinite power or bows to him.

Shinju plays a samurai who uses a few magics and a nice strong sword arm to whip a** all over. Let me tell you from experience, he's very good at what he does. However he saw his hand crushed in a flash by Dyne's "ultimate" powers and saw the injustice that I am explaining:

No man has the right to control all; it defies the logical fairness that holds the entire RP world together. It does not have room for the School girl turned biker, it does not accommodate the person who's dream it was to be a man with fox ears, it will not allow for a simple man who uses a sword like a fiery demon but cannot hope and does not try to tamper with powers that oppress and hurt the system of roleplaying we have today. Dyne Tazon is a symbol of all I hate in RPing today. He shows us all that if people use powers that are not meant for them they rise to a false power, everyone too afraid of them to speak up, and no one who can defeat the insane powers people like Dyne wield without molding themselves to be like Dyne and damning themselves to terrible roleplaying.

Rating: -(-140,000,000)----1----2----3----4----5----6----7----8----9----10

P.S.- I ******** hate frauds.

Dedicated to Victor Kalliandrios.

EDIT (Dated December 31st 2009): Dyne is now an excellent and fair member of the roleplaying community. He has abandoned this old school FFA bulljive and become the quality player we all thought he was.I hereby rescind my previous statements.


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  • User Comments: [22]
    Kiro_Hoto
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    Mon Apr 17, 2006 @ 03:23am


    Tisk tisk....Knives, your egotistical point of view never cease to amaze me. If you would stop SPAMMING the FFA, get your a** in there, and show your RP skills so everyone could make fun of you, then you could see just how stupid you are.... Don't ******** with Dyne because he beat your little ******** toy, or else you'll recieve the same punishment, only from me. Goodbye needle d**k.

    KIRO HAS SPOKEN!


    Lilith Darkside
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    Mon Apr 17, 2006 @ 03:28am


    Shut... the.... ********... up....
    if you can't fight a simplistic race known as 'lunari', you have no business in the FFA. Free-for-all is just that - anyone, anything, everything, all melded together in a giant war. You want fairness... a battle system? Hardly fair. Whoever's been playing longer will always have the edge. If that's the way it is meant to be, then why bother joining at all?....


    Anyr
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    Mon Apr 17, 2006 @ 03:29am


    ((ya, ******** you and your ******** mustache...))


    The Vansin
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    Mon Apr 17, 2006 @ 03:34am


    My competition has spoken (And will likely continue to speak).

    However their simplistic arguements favoring this devilish despot lack any hard evidance and most even help to support my arguement by showing that only simple minds allow themselves to be pushed around by people like Dyne!

    Hoo hah!


    Kiro_Hoto
    Community Member





    Mon Apr 17, 2006 @ 03:40am


    Knives, don't you ******** listen? Your little b***h got pwned by Dyne, none of us are backing him in fear, wrather laughing at how you played if out as if your friend should have won. YOUR IN THE FFA IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE BEAT BY THINGS YOU SUCH AS KINESIS THEN DON'T COME TO THE FFA. Comon Knives, make a guild so the FFA can stomp the b***h and I get my chance to dance on yo face beech.


    The Vansin
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    Mon Apr 17, 2006 @ 04:03am


    Contain yourself boy. You're acting too mature.

    My friend would have lost that fight. Not because he was less skilled, but because he played fairly and Dyne didn't. You would obviously agree with Dyne and support him because you yourself do not play fair. You yourself cannot call yourself skilled when you use things like kinesis and other cheat techniques. therfore I expect everything that applies to Dyne in this piece applies to you as well. sadly you are all too stupid to see it.


    Ebag
    Community Member





    Mon Apr 17, 2006 @ 04:38am


    Wait a minute. Did Dyne, in one of the first messages, complain about him complaining about the littlest things? Wait a minute! He complained to me when I ended his little gravitokinesis through psionics, mainly psi-planar, so he wouldn't even attempt kinetics around me. I use it to level the playing fields. Yet, he started bitching. Sounds similar, no?

    Two, he didn't create the Lunaris, the idea was around before he started playing the character those "five" years ago or what not. I started roleplaying when I was 6, maybe 7, so ten years ago. Maybe two years into that roleplaying I stumbled upon something very similar to the Lunaris. Man, bunch of bullshit there. Sorry Dyne, but you did not create it no matter how much you think that. Maybe on Gaia, but in the open world of roleplaying, no.

    And also, the last part is normal for Dyne. He lost all sense when he wanted to civil war me. Seeing as how I'm Vlad and all.


    Flamefox Merimac
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    Mon Apr 17, 2006 @ 03:05pm


    First off I would like to point something out that Knives said his friend said.

    Knives
    However one thing that most people enjoy about the world of roleplaying is that it is completely fair. Everyone gets a chance to be who they want and act as they see fit.


    If this statment is so true then why does Gaia have rules on what you can make your person be able and not be able to do? If roleplaying is so fair then why is it that every day noobs/newbs get bashed for not being able to roleplay and for not knowing the rules? They do have a "chance" to do and be what they want but it will either get them yelled at whenever they go into a thread or banned from a website. Anyways with that said onto Dyne.

    I'm sure that you haven't really known Dyne for that long Knives but I have known him since I have joined Gaia. He was infact one of my first friends and we were both little newbs roleplaying in a bar and yes you heared me right. Dyne was a NEWB back in the day. I have pretty much watched him grow up as a roleplaying and I do feel that he has earned the right to have strong powers. He wasn't some of these people that just come on Gaia only being a day old and having the power to kill anything in a single attack. He started out low and made his way to the top just like me. Now onto another point.


    Flamefox Merimac
    Community Member





    Mon Apr 17, 2006 @ 03:08pm


    ((Second part to my above comment was saying it was to long for a comment.))

    If you ******** hate his guts so damn much why roleplay with him or talk to him? This is one of the things that I don't really understand sometimes. If you really hate someone how are you going to sit there and call them names and s**t and talk crap when you should know it's only going to make them want to act they way they do even more. If you hate him so much just ignore him. I mean come on Knives. You said you were 17 so you should know how to deal with young people. To another point.

    I know that you are kind of new to the FFA but there are some people around the FFA that are worse in their rping then Dyne when it comes to what you call "god like powers". For example there was one guy attacking one of my guilds that with a human size android and a arm cannon thought that after a 2 or 4 post charge he could blow a whole mountain up with the cannon. I really think that's a lot worse then simply crushing a hand. There is also a guy with armor that is a lot worse then crushing a hand. This will be my last point for now.

    If you friend knew he was going to lose then why fight? I mean I can't say that I have done some fights that I was sure I would lose but that's a different stroy. It was more for a roleplay then just being stupid and if you friend is as good as you make him out to be even if his hand did get crushed he should have been able to work around it and still be able to fight. Anyways I think that is enough to read through for now.


    The Vansin
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    Mon Apr 17, 2006 @ 06:35pm


    Flame, I don't care who had done what in his career, no one has the right to stop others from enjoying themselves. I am obviously not referring to n00bs nor calling him a n00b because he is at worst still a literate roleplayer. He knows the rules and wantonly pushes them to an unfair limit. I respect n00bs who don't know better more then I respect that.

    I'm not new to the FFA, by the way. I've been around for quite some time and all roleplaying forums have not escaped my watchful eye. I keep tabs on the people that get talked about and make it my business to stay informed.

    Now as for his reputation, obviously there are those worse then him who fragrantly do the things he does in the same manner if not worse, however they are not respected to the point of reverance. He is in a position that can influence fellow roleplayers to follow his lead and I find that atrocious. There is a subtle difference and the people that I respect and have spoken to about this agree with me. It is obviously your right to disagree with me and I have no problem with that, actually I appreciate the time you took to argue rather then spew s**t at me like the rest of the numbnuts.

    What truly saddens me if the fact that people have begun to attack Shinju. Let me tell you all now, Shinju was quite capable of getting out of that situation with his hand intact, however he saw the potential for such abilities to be godmodding and decided to bring it up. I back him in his accusations one hundred percent. If Dyne can "crush a man hand with gravitons" what is to stop him for theoretically caving in your skull? Prudence? Not likely, from my experience with him and his mudslinging friends I've noted that all he possesses is a obsession with victory by all means. The low attacks he poked at my pride and character help to prove my point and only reveal him for the immature person he is.


    Flamefox Merimac
    Community Member





    Mon Apr 17, 2006 @ 06:56pm


    I understand that he can do that but unless he is fighting a noob or someone who is going to be a cheat like that or worse then Dyne wouldn't just stoop to a level as to crush someones head. Hell I have a move that will kill everyone in a five mile radius but the probabitlity of me really using it is very very low. See that is the main thing that seperates people like me and Dyne from others that have "godly" powers that you call them. Even if we have something that can do a lot of damage we have to really be pushed to use it.

    It's ok to point out stuff that maybe godmodding or what not but it's also not really needed to point out something that could show that something maybe godmodding. I mean just because he could crush a hand doesn't really mean that he could have the power level to crush a head or something else like that. I'm not saying that stuff shouldn't be questioned but why start s**t like this over something that isn't godmodding and would be accepted. There have been things that shouldn't have happened in fights but sometimes I will let them slide so that I don't start and OOC fight and so I try to hold the fun in a fight. I can't say I have really "attacked" Shinju but I was just saying that you seemed to say that he is a good rper and what really makes a good rper one is the ability to roll with crap like this and allow somethings to happen. If someone were to summon a huge fireball in one post I would probably let that go unless the person had ******** up before but back to the point. Froming a giant fireball in one post would be kind of power playing and crap but if it's not really that bad then let it go.


    Flamefox Merimac
    Community Member





    Mon Apr 17, 2006 @ 07:03pm


    ((Went past the limit again))

    I really think that if all of the good rpers left were to just talk about everything that could lead to something that might be godmodded then the FFA would be a lot worse then it really is now.

    Don't think that Dyne is immature just becuase he talks crap to people. I mean really it's the internet. I wouldn't say half the crap I say to people over the internet that I would say to them in real life simply because I am not that person. Talking over the internet allows someone to act different then they may really be because there are less punishments that will come from it. Also I think Dyne does act the way he acts a little becuase of all the crap that he gets from people. There is usually someone attacking him and he has to stand up for himself because if he doesn't then it would make him look like a coward for not sticking up for himself. I'm sure that people have called you immature at some point over the internet.


    The Vansin
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    Mon Apr 17, 2006 @ 07:07pm


    You'll have to forgive me if I don't sympathize with him. I've been through the same stuff you've explained. Do you think I didn't have fights daily? I took them all, but I wasn't an a** about it. I was humble (OOC, at least) and usually very tactful, ask Victor, or Daniel Mannix, or any of my opponents. There is no excuse for an undeserved bad attitude, but that still is NOT the focus of my review.

    I stand by my words, that is all I need to say. They speak for themselves.


    Flamefox Merimac
    Community Member





    Mon Apr 17, 2006 @ 07:18pm


    That's understandable also but most of the time when someone gets talked to would rude remarks they fight back with rude remarks and even if someone has got someone else mad and then another person comes in then the mad person will come at the new person with rude remarks.

    I'm not asking you to sympathize with him but if you are a friend of Dyne then he will be a friend to you. If your friend wasn't so quick to point out that something could be godmodding when it really isn't then this wouldn't have happened so I don't really see any real point to bash a 15 year old kid that is just actting the way he can act on the internet and even then actting like the masses in the FFA act. It is a true fact that people will act different around different people and sometimes follow the ways other in a group act when put in that group. Dyne would not godmod just for godmodding and he would not flame like some people just for the fun of flaming. You don't have to change your views and I really don't think I would be able to get you to change them. Just saying don't be so quick to shoot down someone just because he has pissed almost half of the FFA off. It is too easy to go with a group of people but is better to put your own views on a person.

    Anyways with that said and done I must go.


    The Vansin
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    Mon Apr 17, 2006 @ 07:24pm


    If respect for you could be measured in weight, I just lost a few tons.

    You just didn't get it. I nor Shinju ever said he godmodded. What I claim is that his is pushing boundries that shouldn't be pushed. I'm not calling his sad personal character into question, but I am pointing out that he is destroying a system that is built on honesty and fairness. A fairness that he and all those like him defy.

    Oh, and I have not done what half of anything believed in. Most of the surge of congrat's and support mail I recieved was a complete suprise. I couldn't have imagined that so many people thought like me and I didn't know anyone did when I wrote it. Joining the crowd is a very lhefty conviction to place on me, I suggest you show more prudence next time you do or I will not be so polite.


    Flamefox Merimac
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    Mon Apr 17, 2006 @ 08:17pm


    Knives.....This who s**t is the most ******** gay thing in the world once an idea just popped into my head. He are talking about fairness and s**t when nothing in life is fair. If fighting on Gaia was fair no one would ever win. Everyone would have the same strenght and the same moves and the same skills which would lead to draws all the time. AS for pushing the boundries you yourself said that your friend questioned because he was doing something that could lead to godmodding. I didn't say that you called him a godmodder but I was saying that he isn't one so you can't sit there and say that he may godmod.

    As for the move being a move that could lead to something to godmodding then you might as well try to get rid of all the damn magic on Gaia. The way this works is if I can make a small fireball hot enough to set someone's clothes on fire when it hits what's to stop me from making a giant fireball that could burn someone up in 3 seconds. Someone may not think of it like that but that is pretty much what you are saying. Someone does a move that leaves someone to think that a person could do something that is godmodding. If you are really bashing Dyne because he "pushes boundries" then you better get to work because I'm sure most that pmed you with support mail has pushed those boundries tons of time. I mean making a a earthquake in two posts is pushing boundries on the rules of Gaia but if it is made onle as a small power it will not be noticed. Don't be so quick to judge just because someone does a move that "pushed" boundries and then fights back in OOC.


    The Vansin
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    Tue Apr 18, 2006 @ 12:04am


    Fire balls are counterable by pretty much anyone, you jump out of the way. However crushing one's hand with gravitons is a wholly different story and not everyone is able to counter something like that.

    So, do you actually believe this stuff you're spewing, or are you actually giving this you full concentration for the fun of it? Because God knows I've already got enough people on my heels, even if there arguments do most sound like the babble of infants.


    Flamefox Merimac
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    Tue Apr 18, 2006 @ 12:11am


    It doesn't ******** matter if it counterable or not. What I am saying is the s**t you are trying to pass off is over a gay piece of crap that can go for ever single piece of magic that can be made on Gaia. If you friend knew Dyne could do that stuff and didn't know how to deal with it he shouldn't have got involed. I don't know how to deal with this s**t so I don't go looking for it. All I'm saying Knives is you are fighting over a gay thing that could be argued for any type of magic or even non-magic moves.

    As I said before I'm probably not going to change your views and I really don't give a s**t but I'm sticking up for a friend and just trying to show that you are really aruging over a little thing that can be aruged over for anything done on Gaia in a fighting move. Anyways that's all I'm gonig to say. I think I've said enough to really show that you are bashing Dyne for all the wrong reason.


    The Vansin
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    Tue Apr 18, 2006 @ 12:13am


    As before, I'll let the writing speak for itself with only an extra comment: You haven't. Once again the people that matter to me have spoken words saying this is a pretty legitamate complaint and I was generally justified.

    I will not be responding to any comment made in this journal topic anymore, feel free to say them anyway.


    Flamefox Merimac
    Community Member





    Tue Apr 18, 2006 @ 02:20am


    OK this is my last comment.

    Knives do you want to know what you getting "support" from other people means to me. It doesn't mean s**t since the "people" that agree with you hate Dyne anyways so some ******** noob could come in and start saying s**t about Dyne and they would agree with him. That's pretty much the "power" of your little support. It doesn't really mean s**t and in fact its just sad that you would bash someone you probably only know through what other people have said and you have only talked to over Gaia. Anyways I'm done and would like to say you are probably actting as immature as you clam Dyne has actted by keeping this crap up. Anyways have a good life Knives.


    Zi Virion
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    Wed Apr 19, 2006 @ 12:06am


    No comment. Mostly because I don't know who i lean towards but dyne says it himself.... Dont believe everything he says....


    The Vansin
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    Sun Apr 23, 2006 @ 03:51am


    Alright, well now everyone's gotten a nice break to cool their nerves, so I'll be posting the last comment here. Post after me and I'll delete it. Why? Because I made this journal, and I sure as hell deserve the final say on it.

    Now in response to Flamefox's little tidbit on my associates, nothing could be farther from the truth. Most of the people only knew Dyne is passing and therfore knew about him in an UNBIASED manner.

    Now that that settles that, we may move on: If I'm acting as immature as Dyne...no, you see there is no polite way I can put this without saying that I'm guilty of something I'm NOT. I'm not nearly as immature as he, and I'm certainly not whatever the hell you think I am. But fools will be fools.

    This conversation is now officially closed.


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