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I was watching the series and I noticed that Trieze mentions God quite a few times within the show. During a speach, he claims,

"Surely God would understand the steps we are taking..."

Shortly after (and when he's alone) he mentions being punished for speaking of God profanely, although after this he says something like, "God is merely an imaginary figure created by people..."

When speaking to Heero while confined within Rommerfellar, he says,

"Let's put ourselves into God's hands..."

There are probably more I simply don't remember but the point remains...do you think Trieze actually believes in God or do you think he uses the idea of God as he sees beneficial to his present circumstances?

I would think to agree...but he is so contradictory...especially since he makes the "God is an imaginary figure..." comment by himself and makes most of the remarks about God when he is around other people...I would normally think that his private thoughts would be more accurate...but he did seem to believe in something towards the end...then again...he is VERY good at twisting things to his own needs...as seen with the whole..."Its an OZ leader meeting...oops its really a pacifist meeting" scenario... confused

I feel pretty much the same way as you do Une-chan. I do believe Trieze thinks there is a higher power. I think a man in his position would to some extent but also wishes to feel that mankind can shape their own destinies. While believing in the exsistance of God he looks at the Gundam Boys and perhapes feels that their victories have made them 'godless creatures' to a point, which in his mind prove his point about man shaping his own path.

He could also be torn between his belief in god and his belief in the human nature. It would seem that he wishes to believe in both despite the fact that the two contradict one another.

Treize is a tricky guy. Although he does mention God a few scattered times throughout the series, I wasn't really moved enough to think it was heartfelt. If anything, it seemed more theatrical for me. For those he spoke with, it just added onto his righteous image. If you listen to political leaders today, many use God as a strength in their speeches. They use his name to further their ambitions by giving it a great cause. However, for Treize, I don't think he was using God's name for himself. I do believe in reality, he was doing it for peace and his deep love of mankind. By touching and inspiring people, he was able to gain their admiration.

Also, I think if Treize did believe in God, he would have had more self-worth. He was more than willing to throw his life away on many occasions (To Heero, To Zechs, To Wufei). Especially in Heero's situation, when he offered that they both kill themselves if Heero was unable to find his answers within Epyon. Although he constant portrays a character of high nobility, I think he was broken at that point in the series. No power. Romefellar didn't share his beliefs. What was there left for him? The Gundam pilots were his only hope for solution. But, if they didn't have what it took to help set his ideals back in motion, then there was no reason for him to go on.

So, yeah. As much as I want to believe Treize had faith in God, I think his actions spoke otherwise.

But, that's just the opinion of a poor college student who's running on no sleep. heart

Such is true but he said to himself that God is an imaginary figure created by people as well...

Yes... OZ was always big on symbolism. 3nodding

I don't think we'll ever completely figure Treize out, lol. However, He is a very savvy political type. Whether or not he believes in God, I believe it is safe to say that he was using it for political purposes. I remember one of those at least was in a speech...what about the other?

I don't remember every specific time he used God in a speech. I do remember him telling Heero at one point, "Let's put ourselves in God's hands." Something along those lines. In otherwords, "If you find your reasons within Epyon, then there's still reason for us both to fight. If not, let's kill ourselves." It was a way for Treize to elegantly ask Heero to commit suicide with him if Heero didn't find his answers.