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 Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:39 pm
Fact: My family and I are hooked on this show called "Amazing Race". If you haven't heard of it, it's where pairs go around the world racing to be in the top 3 to win 1 million dollars. Well, some of the couples have/are gay. This one guy of one of the gay couples keeps making remarks about God. I don't know if he's Christian, but it unnerves me everytime the gay guy mentions God in some way (not really disrespectful though...).
Discussion: My parents and I were discussing the possiblity of him being a homosexual Christian. My parents were saying it's because there's this new thing of Christianity becoming more liberal and allowing homosexuallity because Jesus does not specifically say, the red ink does not specifically say.
My argument: "In the beginning the Word was with God... The Word is God."* Also in the Bible are 2 verses (different books... I think) but "one man and one woman"* and "men did lustful, shameful acts with each other and women too"*. Since the Word is JESUS, therefore JESUS DOES IN FACT SAY THAT HOMOSEXUALITY IS WRONG!
*Paraphrase of what I've read before. Not actual quote!
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:11 pm
I agree that some people are taking too flexible a view on some things. For example, I recently heard of some groups who feel that people don't have to do anything to be saved and that everyone is automatically saved simply because Jesus died on the cross. But that's not what the word says. I understand that many parts of the bible are in parables and are metaphorical but I think it also means what it says. It isn't necessarily meant to be "read between the lines." It is what it is...it is meant to be cut and dry, there as a guideline.
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:57 am
I think that u r absolutely rite!! because in the word god made one man and one WOMAN! not one man and other man or one woman and another woman. also it says that we are made in gods image after his likness(sumthin lyke that) and if god wanted us to be gay then he wouldve made 2 men together. and after he made adam and eve he said to be frutiful and multipy and ppl of the same sex cannot do that without extra help. thats y god made it so that a man and a woman could have sex b/c thats the way god made it to be. i think that homosexuality is wrong and there is no IFS, ANDS, OR BUTS about it.no matter wat way u look at it to me it is very wrong and should not be legal. ppl can luv sumone but that luv should not go as far as wantin to be wit them and wanting to get married to them! its crazii!!!! to me if u say that bein gay or lesbian is rite then u are that robbing a bank is rite and guess wat.......ITS NOT RITE!!! no matter wat the reason is for u robbing the bank it is still wrong. no matter wat way u turn it.
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:00 am
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 3:23 pm
People take things out of context or disregard things altogether concerning Scripture.
It is wrong and we, as Christians, do need to step up and tell them where they err and help them to get out of it. If one person doesn't listen after so long, move on.
We do have to remember to be loving about it and not judgmental; otherwise, it will only drive them further away.
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:06 pm
Yes, it's true that Christianity (or "Christianity") is becoming too liberal in our days. While the teachings in the letters of the New Testament tell us to pursue the fruits of the Spirit, to serve others, to provide for our spirit and not our the flesh, etc., most professing Christians now just live their lives and add 20 grams of "Jesus" to their food. Instead, we are called to deny ourselves and live FOR Jesus, not for ourselves. Hence what it's written in Romans 8:5-6.
It does not necessarily means that we need to be "traditionalists," but as Martin Luther did, the Word of God should become the guide for our lives... the authority for our standard of living.
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:40 pm
Yes. Well here's something else. I was talking to my youth pastor about this. He said that we're all sinful (amen). Homosexuals have thoughts and urges for things towards people of the same sex. (Of course.) But it's when a person acts upon those urges and marries someone of the same sex or something like that that it becomes worse... (for lack of a better word).
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:38 pm
All sin is equal, but I guess your youth pastor means that they are drawing farther from God by constantly living in and indulging in sin.
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:58 am
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:53 pm
Xiterrose All sin is equal, but I guess your youth pastor means that they are drawing farther from God by constantly living in and indulging in sin. That's what he meant. That's what I meant. But I couldn't... formulate my words in a sensible, orderly, somewhat intelligible manner... sweatdrop My apologies for any confusion.
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:37 pm
I firmly believe homosexuals can be Christians.
That gives me hope. I am a liar, a thief, a murderer, an alduterer, the list goes on.
Homosexuality is sin. If a sinner cannot be Christian, we are all doomed.
God loves uncoditionally. We could spit in His face and he would still love us. We do nothing to earn His love.
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 12:57 am
xkid0 I firmly believe homosexuals can be Christians. That gives me hope. I am a liar, a thief, a murderer, an alduterer, the list goes on. Homosexuality is sin. If a sinner cannot be Christian, we are all doomed. God loves uncoditionally. We could spit in His face and he would still love us. We do nothing to earn His love. You are right that God loves us no matter what...but that fact alone does not guarantee that we are saved. The Bible says that we are to be saved by our faith in his word and how much we follow that word. I absolutely agree that we are all sinners and fall short of the glory of God but as long as we try our best and we are truly sorry for our sins we are forgiven. But if people make a conscious choice to act... I know some people say that homosexuality is something that can't always be helped...I don't know anything about that, so I'm not saying here nor there...but I think if people decide it's okay to be homosexual, they are sinning; they are not acting in a Christian manner nor are they following God's will. If they try to follow God's word and fight such desires (I suppose you would call it such) and still fall short, then its different...
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 8:19 am
ChrisJS xkid0 I firmly believe homosexuals can be Christians. That gives me hope. I am a liar, a thief, a murderer, an alduterer, the list goes on. Homosexuality is sin. If a sinner cannot be Christian, we are all doomed. God loves uncoditionally. We could spit in His face and he would still love us. We do nothing to earn His love. You are right that God loves us no matter what...but that fact alone does not guarantee that we are saved. The Bible says that we are to be saved by our faith in his word and how much we follow that word. I absolutely agree that we are all sinners and fall short of the glory of God but as long as we try our best and we are truly sorry for our sins we are forgiven. But if people make a conscious choice to act... I know some people say that homosexuality is something that can't always be helped...I don't know anything about that, so I'm not saying here nor there...but I think if people decide it's okay to be homosexual, they are sinning; they are not acting in a Christian manner nor are they following God's will. If they try to follow God's word and fight such desires (I suppose you would call it such) and still fall short, then its different... I agree with you there. I was just trying to make the point that just because homosexuality is a sin, it doesn't mean the person can't be/is not saved. Trust me, I know what it is like to have a sin hit you so hard, so constantly that it feels impossible to overcome, even though I am a Christian. But I know it is not impossible thanks to the Bible 1 Corinthians 10:13 No temptation has seized you except what is common to man. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can stand up under it.
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 6:42 pm
Christianity as in Jesus is not becoming tolerant. The people of this earth are. If you were to look at Christianity without an opinion and take all of what God says is right and wrong in two different categories, homosexuality would definitely be in the WRONG section.
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 7:17 am
About the poll:
I can't really answer yes or no. It depends on your deffinition of Christianity.
If it is the people that say they are Christians: yes, it has probably become to liberal.
If it is true followers of Christ: No, probably not.
I haven't interviewed everyone on there beliefs so I couldn't say for sure, but that is how I feel.
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