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 Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 8:15 pm
Hmm.
Well, to start, I guess it is safe to say that every day we use our minds and intellect to determine many things, ideas, and other things as such.
This is coming from our conscious mind... The mind that we use all of the time that we are active at day and/or at night.
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Unfortunately, we do not use our minds to the fullest.
A Literture author, whose name I cannot remember for this topic, is saying that our minds are actually like an iceberg:
- The Conscious Mind (Above surface part of iceberg-- 20%): The mind that we all actively and/or interactively use.
- The Subconscious Mind (Sea level or surface part of iceberg-- 5%): The mind that is not considered to be unactive but is used in your mind. [For example-- The first word that comes to mind when I say "love". You subconsciously think of that word first along with and no other one.]
- The Unconscious Mind (Iceberg that is underwater-- 75%): The mind that inactive and is likely to be stored the majority of the intelligence and knowlegde that has not been discovered or found.
I believe in this because there is so much potential in everything... and like at least one person in your life has said, "You have so much potential" or "You are actually smart; you just do not show it"... or something along those lines.
I really think there is not too much expression or mental use in the world anyway because of the "unawaken" unconscious mind of ours, but that really depends on what your thoughts are and what you believe.
Really, in actuality and reality, this "Iceberg Theory" is saying that we spend our whole lives not tapping into our unconscious minds.
This is how much we do not spend our lives living it to its fullest and greatest potential...
Tell me what you think; I believe in this theory...
How about you all ?
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 1:51 am
This has been a theory for a very long time, I first heard about it when I was 8 and experimenting with different theories about our existence and other things, of course the actually percentages then were 11% consious, sub-conscious included and 85-90% of your mind was unconscious or inactive, thus if one could achieve even 25% conscious mind they could see into the future and those who could achieve much higher levels of the conscious mind could possible bend reality [in other words they would practically be wizards]. Of course if you believe in seers and such then they would have already achieved above average.
The theory always changes through time and with each professor, and although it could or is true the actually effects of using 100% of your mind are unknown so from then on its just theology.
Always include a poll in all threads in this guild.
Thats all I have to say on this. biggrin
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:45 am
I disagree with a statement in the opening.
We do use our minds to the fullest.
Whether or not those functions are applicable in a profitable way in society depends on the person.
But there's more to the mind than "unconscious", etc.
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 8:20 am
Yes... I do see what you are saying, Love but think about it like this:
Many people that have the intelligence above let us say... 160 I believe.
Those people do use their minds very extremely, but do they have any common sense ?
(This does include the majority of them in this scenario.)
No...
This means, in my opinion, that they pretty much left their common sense in their unconscious most likely.
Therefore, the theory is somewhat proven, and the statement does mostly support what I am trying to say here.
^^
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:32 am
No I don't buy that theroy at all.
It reminds me much to much of the old Myth about humans only using 10% of thier brains. (Which is utterly false despite the fact it continues to show up in fiction constantly)
Anyway regardless of what does or does not go on in the unconscious mind there is no way to know (with our current understanding) if there is any way to affect it at all.
The Fact is simply we don't know enough about the brain and how it works to ever say for sure what effects our unconcious mind has on us or if we can even affect it by simple will power.
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:51 am
Well, Dax, answer me this:
Do you believe that we have a subconscious mind ?
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 1:35 pm
Maybe the subconscious mind takes over mostly when we sleep. That may be why we always have weird dreams.
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:39 pm
Yes... This may be true, Exodus.
Most say, though, that our dreams are made of mostly random thoughts or what we think of when we sleep or right before sleeping.
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:18 pm
I heard of this theory or something like it when I was in 4th grade. Personally, it makes sense. However, we use our minds as much as we possibly can. Humans don't know how to use all of their brain, at least not yet.
Also, the subconsious mind could come out when you sleep. That's why some of our dreams can be analyzed to see how we feel. However, there are some dreams that are really out there, cryptic, and can mean more than one thing.
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:14 pm
Exodus1 Maybe the subconscious mind takes over mostly when we sleep. That may be why we always have weird dreams. People have dreams to sort out problems their brain confronts while awake, dreams are often created from a cut and paste of all the past events you've had, most of these events are so obscure that you consciously dont remember them and so you dont think that you knew it before. The result of a cut and paste dream can be an entirely new concept to you but in truth it is just a new combination of old things you know already. ^^
@Dax::
I wouldnt say ever say for sure, I would say for a long time... We are learning more about how the brain works as a whole but before we do this theory will be left unchecked and utterly unchallenged, which is why you also cant say that we only using 10% of our brains is utterly false, it is just incorrectly stated.
We only use 10% [or some other random %] of our brain power, if we were to use more something else would happen perhaps we'd just be smarted, or perhaps we'd be able to 'special' things, nobody really knows nor do we actually know if we use 10% of our brains or 100% of our brains, I think the reason the theory was created is because someone couldnt believe that humans were already at maximum potential, and so he or she thought up this theory its called philosophy, unproven but not disproven either.
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:42 pm
FIRST POST YAY!
Well, I kinda agree with you, I agree with you on the idea that there is SO much more potantial in all of us, and that we have SO much more ability than we ever expected.
Though I don't believe in the theory that the mind is where this potential is located. I believe that this potential is within who you truly are, that is, you as a spirit, a.k.a. YOU. (I don't say your spirit because you ARE a spirit, and you HAVE a body.) I believe that your potential is somehow sealed away, and that is how you get aberrations (flaws) in people. Whether those aberrations are getting angry for no good reason, unexplained pains, the urge to be right, addictions, and other things like that.
Some people may just think that that is just how they are and they can't do anything about it. Those people simply aren't being responsible enough to accept the responsibility of controlling their own actions. They will blame their aberrations on theories such as "mental disorders", or just "bad genes".
So, all in all, I am saying that yes, there is definitely potential for all of us to change ourselves for the better as much as we want.
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:25 am
I believe that the overall principal exist and is real however what I have a hard time believing in is the fact that the amount of the conscious mind makes up such a huge part of the mind. The conscious mind can only hold seven to eight bits of information correct? You can't think about the number five and five seperate numbers at one time. You may remember what numbers you thought of but you can't think of six seperate numbers at one time even if you do think of them in rapid succession you're only thinking about one at a time. My question is how much things factor into the conscious mind? Is it only what you're thinking? Or is there something more?
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:38 am
[Midori Asuka] Well, Dax, answer me this:
Do you believe that we have a subconscious mind ? Yes and No. Does our mind do things we aren't aware of, Yep sure do. However I don't think there is anything there to tap into. What I'm getting at is we don't understand how our minds work enough to do anything as exact as ascribing Percentages or theroizing on how we can tap into this supposed Gulf of Brain power we aren't using. I get the appeal of the idea. It's the same as the old 10% myth the human brain is so amazing it must be able tod o more. But we have no proof that it can do anymore. And Research shows that the 10% Myth atleast is completely and utterly false. When you get into more abstract concepts like Conscious and Unconscious Minds it's a bit harder to say for sure what is or isn't the case. But I don't buy for a minuite that there is some great reserve of brain power that we are just not tapping into.
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:06 am
Flame_Knight000 I believe that the overall principal exist and is real however what I have a hard time believing in is the fact that the amount of the conscious mind makes up such a huge part of the mind. The conscious mind can only hold seven to eight bits of information correct? You can't think about the number five and five seperate numbers at one time. You may remember what numbers you thought of but you can't think of six seperate numbers at one time even if you do think of them in rapid succession you're only thinking about one at a time. My question is how much things factor into the conscious mind? Is it only what you're thinking? Or is there something more? What if you were to link 5 numbers into one, like 13574 but to also link the fact that they each digit is a seperate number, like 1-3-5-7-4 I can do that razz but no I cant think of all of them seperated at the same moment, but I can of 13,574 and just know they are seperated. xp that was a pointless post but just something I felt like bringing up.
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:11 pm
I think more than anything we do not understand most of our brains. We don't know why it even works we just know that it does (correct me if I'm wrong on that).
So I figure maybe those percentages would be clearer if we actually knew more about our brain.
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