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| Dead human baby. |
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45% |
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| Dead Baby lemur. |
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| A ruined brownie cake. |
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Mariana the Deloved Vice Captain
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 Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:09 pm
I've come to the realization, that the thought of a dead human child is less tragic to me than the thought of a dead baby lemur.
For one thing, as a total, there are more in the human population than there are in the lemurs'. Second, lemurs are dying out, and may soon be extinct (being that they only thrive on one specific Island, Madacascar). Third, I believe that humans are too over populated, and should stop spewing out more spawn than their enviroment can hold. We are slowly killing ourselves be living.
So all in all discuss your philosophies on the human condition, enviroment destrustion, or fuzyy woodland creatures.
Mariana, over & out.
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:12 pm
 ★★★ Whenever a child dies, my heart usually goes out to the parents or the
guardians moreso than the child itself. That doesn't mean that I don't care
at all, it's just that my compassion arises in response to seeing or hearing
about the suffering on the part of those still alive.
I mean, I value all life, but part of that is knowing that everyone dies, and
that the time of death is uncertain. Deaths themselves don't elicit more or
less of a response from me, but their effect on others does.
I also think that there are too many people and that we need to stop
giving birth before we replace our ecosystem with oceans of humam goo.★★★ 
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Mariana the Deloved Vice Captain
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:19 pm
It is a shame that people do find pain in love one's deaths. Even with my beliefs about death, I will miss those I love, that's undeniable. But being destitute and in a deep depression is seemingly very silly to me. When I see people obsessing over a loved one's death, yes I feel sorry for them (which is something I detest, one of the worst things for me, is for someone to pity me, just pisses me off), but I also think they're obsurd. Most of these individuals that obsessing are regular, god-fearing christians, which do believe in an afterlife, so they should be glad for those that are taken. Not sad or angry.
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:25 pm
★★★ I know that one day my mother will die, and that will probably be
upsetting, but not surprising. It will also not devastate me because I am
not co-dependent in that familial relationship. I was once dating someone
and I became very co-dependent, so when we broke up I took it very
hard and it cause me all sorts of problems for months afterward. I found
this very strange, and I didn't understand why it was so devastating. I had
developed such a strong attachment, or emotional need for this person,
and so when that was gone, I was suddenly left feeling ... really bad.
Now that I have experienced that, I can recognize it again in myself, and
perhaps even prevent it from arising again. But I also recognize it in
others, and I have compassion for them because everyone who meets
eventually parts, and when there's that much attachment, there's only one
reaction to loss in that kind of relationship. I understand it, and it's sad.★★★
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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:30 am
[ Jizo Bosatsu ] ★★★ Whenever a child dies, my heart usually goes out to the parents or the
guardians moreso than the child itself. That doesn't mean that I don't care
at all, it's just that my compassion arises in response to seeing or hearing
about the suffering on the part of those still alive.
I mean, I value all life, but part of that is knowing that everyone dies, and
that the time of death is uncertain. Deaths themselves don't elicit more or
less of a response from me, but their effect on others does.
I also think that there are too many people and that we need to stop
giving birth before we replace our ecosystem with oceans of humam goo.★★★ Yes... orange goo. Like in, Neon Genisis Evangelion heart
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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:13 am
★★★ Thinking more about the first post, I think that a lot of people have
become densitized not to death itself, but to the idea of death. So it
doesn't surprise me that human death doesn't bother anyone (unless they
witness it personally, or it happens to someone they're very attached to),
but when the death of some other species occurs, then it causes much
more of a reaction. It's strange how the idea of death is jazzy to us.★★★
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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 8:04 am
Meh, I'm not a people person at all.
Somewhere could be bombed, killing a thousand people, while a dog somewhere gets run over, and I'd care more about the dog.
I think it's because humans have a greater capacity to defend themselves than most animals, that I really don't care for people.
I think that there's probably like only one person on the planet I could seriously say that I'd choose over an animal if both were hurt.
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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 9:49 am
For me it depends on how close I was to a person.
My grandpa and mom, for example, I would miss them much more then possible.
So if I knew that child, let's reference that baby as possibly a nephew of mine, then yes I'd be utterly devastated.
But then again if I'm watching something like Animal Planet and they put animals to sleep or they watch them basically kill themselves it saddens me also.
I think I'm affected both ways.
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:00 am
I once downloaded what I thought was an episode of Naruto, but it was a horrible video that made me cry and it made me feel just sick to my stomach. I had to do a lot of meditation afterward to deal with the pain of what I saw. If anyone wants to know what it was, I'll write it out in white text between brackets. Just highlight it to read.
[ It was a video of a puppy lying on the ground, and a woman wearing a stiletto heel stepping on the puppy, so that heel was going through it over and over again, and it was crying and it was in so much pain]
Just thinking about it again is making me upset. I'm going to go do something else. emo
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:16 am
That makes me want to kill a baby. D< Seriously.
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Mariana the Deloved Vice Captain
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:41 am
完莲的命令I just had to go and give my dog hugs and tell him how much I appreciate and
love him. I can't understand how anyone could do that to anything or anyone.
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:32 pm
Some people just don't have any feeling whatsoever. Like they're deadened in that area. It can happen to a lot of people.
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 3:17 pm
完莲的命令Not having empathy or compassion is just such a foreign concept to me.
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 3:45 pm
To me, a dead human baby is more tragic than a dead lemur baby, if only because the human baby has more potential to be fulfilled. You never know; they could be the one to save the lemurs from extinction.
Re: Empathy. I sometimes get so depressed that it numbs me. I hate the feeling of not feeling anything even more than the feeling of feeling sadness or anger. Especially since I know, intellectually, what it's like to feel things.
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:33 am
I think it has to do with perspective and circumstance.
Most people won't mourn over a dead person if its of natural causes (like old age) or something along those lines. Most people will however mourn and feel more upset if they were murdered. A baby isn't often mourned as much as someone else because they haven't been around as long. Someone will always mourn their mother more than their child who was born just a few moments before, simply because they KNOW their mother and the child is simply something there and then gone.
Animals follow the prinicple the first post mentioned, in endangered their deaths count as alot more. Its whether they died on a whim in hunting or for food. People don't mourn animals killed by other animals, or even cows killed for meat. But you hit a tiger and WOAH you're number one on the enemy list. It also applies to them the situation I mentioned for humans. You're gonna feel bad about an animal dying without just cause, for instance being hit by a car versus being put down for attacking someone, in about the same way you mourn a murdered person more than one dying peacefully in sleep. It just circumstance.
And everyone is always sad about a crumbled brownie. razz
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