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How close are you to Judaism/ where do you put yourself?
Orthodox extreme
4%
 4%  [ 1 ]
Orthodox
20%
 20%  [ 5 ]
Ortho-Conservative
12%
 12%  [ 3 ]
Conservative
12%
 12%  [ 3 ]
Conserva-reform
12%
 12%  [ 3 ]
Reform
24%
 24%  [ 6 ]
I Dont know...? all three I gues...
12%
 12%  [ 3 ]
None. I dont beleive at all
4%
 4%  [ 1 ]
Total Votes : 25


Rikaku 69

PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 12:49 pm


Among the nations Judaism has been failing and failing hard. I just wanted to get a study done of nhow closely people feel to their religion so vote on the poll, and have a good day. post if youyr in be tween some of the options, or if your options not there then sorry i forgot you but just post it and youll count.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:31 pm


I don't know I'm a convert lol. I feel uber close, but i'm uber retarded too. rofl I still can't keep that two "t" things straight -.- liek one is alike a teffalin or something and somethign else with tz.. >.> i'm confused they make their names to close to eachother

YvetteEmilieDupont


phobia2001

PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:54 am


Learning Hebrew can be difficult. 3nodding

I feel very close to my religion, for several reasons. One is that my community is very supportive. Another is that I have a lot of pride in my heritage and religion. I feel it is a link to others and that it gives us strength. I may not follow all the rules, but I don't think that makes my faith in G-d any less.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:51 pm


You forgot to put "unaffiliated".

sickday


Macaroni Jesus

PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:35 pm


Arent those denominations?

I dont really see how denominations can count as how strong your beliefs are. They are just groups who believe the same things in different ways.

I for one have seen many reformed jews who are very strong in their beliefs and strangely enough, a few orthodox who are weak in their beliefs.

The poll should really list something like "die-hard, strong, weak" or others of the like for how strong your beliefs are or the question should be what denomination of judaism you belong to.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:10 pm


Rikaku 69
Among the nations Judaism has been failing and failing hard.


Sometimes we need to fall first in order to rise.

But you wern't talking about that kind of fall, unfortunately... Some don't even consider other forms as failure of judaism... They consider it as just a different religion. I see it differently. We are all jews, despite what we beleive in. Even if someone beleives different than someone else, that doesn't make them an "un-kosher" jew. Though if a jew betrays his entire nation... well... stare

nathan_ngl
Crew


darkphoenix1247
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 5:53 pm


nathan_ngl
Rikaku 69
Among the nations Judaism has been failing and failing hard.


Sometimes we need to fall first in order to rise.

But you wern't talking about that kind of fall, unfortunately... Some don't even consider other forms as failure of judaism... They consider it as just a different religion. I see it differently. We are all jews, despite what we beleive in. Even if someone beleives different than someone else, that doesn't make them an "un-kosher" jew. Though if a jew betrays his entire nation... well... stare


Agreed. Right now, I'm a mixture of reform/conservative, trying to be come more conservative. I'm a bit biased when I say this, but I also think that Judaism is Judaism, as long as you don't believe in Christ. sweatdrop
PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 3:11 pm


Donovinhs Knight
Arent those denominations?

I dont really see how denominations can count as how strong your beliefs are. They are just groups who believe the same things in different ways.

I for one have seen many reformed jews who are very strong in their beliefs and strangely enough, a few orthodox who are weak in their beliefs.

The poll should really list something like "die-hard, strong, weak" or others of the like for how strong your beliefs are or the question should be what denomination of judaism you belong to.


QFT, also, what do you mean by 'failing'?

Stxitxchxes


nathan_ngl
Crew

PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 5:21 pm


darkphoenix1247
nathan_ngl
Rikaku 69
Among the nations Judaism has been failing and failing hard.


Sometimes we need to fall first in order to rise.

But you wern't talking about that kind of fall, unfortunately... Some don't even consider other forms as failure of judaism... They consider it as just a different religion. I see it differently. We are all jews, despite what we beleive in. Even if someone beleives different than someone else, that doesn't make them an "un-kosher" jew. Though if a jew betrays his entire nation... well... stare


Agreed. Right now, I'm a mixture of reform/conservative, trying to be come more conservative. I'm a bit biased when I say this, but I also think that Judaism is Judaism, as long as you don't believe in Christ. sweatdrop


That's not exactly enough to be called a jew xd .

There are plenty of people that call themselves jews, and don't beleive in jesus, yet they are NOT jews, and they are making a mockery out of the religion... sweatdrop .

I wonder sometimes how some of those really distant forms of judiasm pop up. There are things that are written so clearly in the Torah, that it's almost painful to see how they completely ignore it. If you are a Jew, you must accept all of the Torah. If you don't accept part of the Torah, you basically deny that it was written by G-d, otherwise, you wouldn't have dropped out parts of it. You either take it all, or you take nothing.
PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 6:40 pm


I agree- I forgot to think about some of the really crazy groups out there. sweatdrop

darkphoenix1247
Vice Captain


YvetteEmilieDupont

PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 5:30 pm


jews for jesus amuse me so much kinda like the omish people and the jo ho's they amuse me greatly too. aspecially when they have hebrew on their signs. oh good times xd rofl
PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:23 am


YvetteEmilieDupont
jews for jesus amuse me so much kinda like the omish people and the jo ho's they amuse me greatly too. aspecially when they have hebrew on their signs. oh good times xd rofl


how can you be a jew for jesus?

isnt that technically christians then? O.o

Macaroni Jesus


nathan_ngl
Crew

PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:14 pm


Donovinhs Knight
YvetteEmilieDupont
jews for jesus amuse me so much kinda like the omish people and the jo ho's they amuse me greatly too. aspecially when they have hebrew on their signs. oh good times xd rofl


how can you be a jew for jesus?

isnt that technically christians then? O.o


Yeah, I was kinda wondering that myself sweatdrop . But you never can really drop the status of "Jew", no matter what you do. So I guess they are basically admitting to that? sweatdrop ...
PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:30 pm


Jews for Jesus is a proselytizing group that targets Jews for conversion and that is their sole purpose for existing. Some of their members are Jews (non-practicing, obviously!) It's not the same thing as Messianic Jews. They are evil and will stalk the hell out of you if they know you're Jewish. They were on my campus last year and one of them followed my friend to class. She was convinced the chick would be gone since her class was from 6 to 9 PM, but nope, after class that crazy b***h was still there waiting for her. My friend had to get a professor to intervene and escort her to her car so that she wouldn't be harrassed.

sickday


Macaroni Jesus

PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:04 pm


roothands
Jews for Jesus is a proselytizing group that targets Jews for conversion and that is their sole purpose for existing. Some of their members are Jews (non-practicing, obviously!) It's not the same thing as Messianic Jews. They are evil and will stalk the hell out of you if they know you're Jewish. They were on my campus last year and one of them followed my friend to class. She was convinced the chick would be gone since her class was from 6 to 9 PM, but nope, after class that crazy b***h was still there waiting for her. My friend had to get a professor to intervene and escort her to her car so that she wouldn't be harrassed.


The reminds me of this time that my family and I were leaving from visiting my aunt in college and on the ride hom suddenly a J-4-J van was behind us and followed us for miles gonk
We kept wondering "how do they know who we are?!" since we have no markings on our car advertising to the world our religion.
It was freaky in a way, we eventually lost them when we turned off the freeway and hid in a Wendy's parking lot.
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