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LadyBugLes
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 2:09 pm


I got a pm about our list of abilties, which is causing me to bring up the, errr, obvious?

Just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you should.

For example: Just because I can "summon" a demon into my living room, doesn't mean it's good idea. Why? Well, unless you're just a sadistic creep who's going to play with it for a while and then kill it (this isn't very nice, and will probably, lol, "make the baby Jesus cry".) there's no reason to. If you think you're going to get information out of one of those guys, you're probably wrong. Why? Because demons and devils lie. This is what they do... kind of like me and teaching... it's just what they do. If you think you're going to get them to give you power, it will come at a heavy price. One you shouldn't pay.

Channeling spirits: Anything that has to actually POSSESS you to speak to someone... i.e. you leave or have no control and the spirit takes over.... is NOT a good thing. I know from experience that any *good spirit, i.e. an angel or some other still allied with God creature, is going to be able to do that without controlling. I'm used as a "radio" all the time. Basically what it amounts to is that the person communicates with me so fast that it's like they're speaking through me, but it's more really fast dictation than anything else. I am ALWAYS fully there and I am ALWAYS fully in control. You shouldn't let the dead speak through you... dead meaning human souls. That is NOT COOL. I'm not sure why, but it doesn't work the same way and it takes a lot out of both the spirit and the human.

Divination: Unless you have permission straight from God or he shows it to you in a vision, the future is strictly on a NEED TO KNOW BASIS. Why? It changes all the time, looking into may or may not change it, and well, there's all kinds of nasty stuff said about that in the Bible.

As for the letter writer said about "consulting the dead", be really careful with that too. It's one thing if you run into a ghost or lost spirit or if one of the blessed dead happens to be someone you talk to. Asking random dead folks for advice on a Ouiga board? DUMB! Why? No self respecting dead person or angel would ever come near one of those things. It attracts demons like flies to honey.

Does anyone have anything to add?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 3:15 pm


sistergoldenhair
For example: Just because I can "summon" a demon into my living room, doesn't mean it's good idea. Why? Well, unless you're just a sadistic creep who's going to play with it for a while and then kill it (this isn't very nice, and will probably, lol, "make the baby Jesus cry".) there's no reason to. If you think you're going to get information out of one of those guys, you're probably wrong. Why? Because demons and devils lie. This is what they do... kind of like me and teaching... it's just what they do. If you think you're going to get them to give you power, it will come at a heavy price. One you shouldn't pay.


Something to add:

Also, some people I met on a few boards claim they can 'make' demons. Now there's a difference between a real demon, and a psi-construct with a less than moral application. A demon has a free will, a psi-construct does not. It only does what it's made to do until it is recalled, or destroyed.

And there's a difference between a demon and an entity I call a bogey. Again, a demon has free will; whereas a bogey lacks a free will but does make very limited choices. Bogies simply exist due to concentrations of negative emotional energy produced by traumas.

sistergoldenhair
Channeling spirits: Anything that has to actually POSSESS you to speak to someone... i.e. you leave or have no control and the spirit takes over.... is NOT a good thing. I know from experience that any *good spirit, i.e. an angel or some other still allied with God creature, is going to be able to do that without controlling. I'm used as a "radio" all the time. Basically what it amounts to is that the person communicates with me so fast that it's like they're speaking through me, but it's more really fast dictation than anything else. I am ALWAYS fully there and I am ALWAYS fully in control. You shouldn't let the dead speak through you... dead meaning human souls. That is NOT COOL. I'm not sure why, but it doesn't work the same way and it takes a lot out of both the spirit and the human.


Like sister, I've been the relay transmitter for many higher powers. And sometimes they ask that I step out, so they can step in. I only do this to entities I know and trust like the back of my hand.

sistergoldenhair
Divination: Unless you have permission straight from God or he shows it to you in a vision, the future is strictly on a NEED TO KNOW BASIS. Why? It changes all the time, looking into may or may not change it, and well, there's all kinds of nasty stuff said about that in the Bible.


Yes. The future is never set in stone.

Divinitation can also occur through symbols, this may be a technique that makes the reciever figure out the message at the appropriate time, or so that they learn something from it.

sistergoldenhair
As for the letter writer said about "consulting the dead", be really careful with that too. It's one thing if you run into a ghost or lost spirit or if one of the blessed dead happens to be someone you talk to. Asking random dead folks for advice on a Ouiga board? DUMB! Why? No self respecting dead person or angel would ever come near one of those things. It attracts demons like flies to honey.

Does anyone have anything to add?


Yes, sometimes it's best to leave the dead alone.

Terg


tenshikitsune
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 4:26 pm


sistergoldenhair
I got a pm about our list of abilties, which is causing me to bring up the, errr, obvious?

Just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you should.

For example: Just because I can "summon" a demon into my living room, doesn't mean it's good idea. Why? Well, unless you're just a sadistic creep who's going to play with it for a while and then kill it (this isn't very nice, and will probably, lol, "make the baby Jesus cry".) there's no reason to. If you think you're going to get information out of one of those guys, you're probably wrong. Why? Because demons and devils lie. This is what they do... kind of like me and teaching... it's just what they do. If you think you're going to get them to give you power, it will come at a heavy price. One you shouldn't pay.

Channeling spirits: Anything that has to actually POSSESS you to speak to someone... i.e. you leave or have no control and the spirit takes over.... is NOT a good thing. I know from experience that any *good spirit, i.e. an angel or some other still allied with God creature, is going to be able to do that without controlling. I'm used as a "radio" all the time. Basically what it amounts to is that the person communicates with me so fast that it's like they're speaking through me, but it's more really fast dictation than anything else. I am ALWAYS fully there and I am ALWAYS fully in control. You shouldn't let the dead speak through you... dead meaning human souls. That is NOT COOL. I'm not sure why, but it doesn't work the same way and it takes a lot out of both the spirit and the human.

Divination: Unless you have permission straight from God or he shows it to you in a vision, the future is strictly on a NEED TO KNOW BASIS. Why? It changes all the time, looking into may or may not change it, and well, there's all kinds of nasty stuff said about that in the Bible.

As for the letter writer said about "consulting the dead", be really careful with that too. It's one thing if you run into a ghost or lost spirit or if one of the blessed dead happens to be someone you talk to. Asking random dead folks for advice on a Ouiga board? DUMB! Why? No self respecting dead person or angel would ever come near one of those things. It attracts demons like flies to honey.

Does anyone have anything to add?


Summoning: Is not only dangerous if you don't do it properly, but you just showed yourself to the other side. They can find you again if they really want to. A demon won't play nice with you just because you summoned him; he'll trick you into letting him loose and bad things happen, not just to others either. You're fair game to anything that feels like hunting you.
Any angel you attempt to 'summon' can't and won't appear. Angels have no physical form; angels are also bound by what I like to call The Ineffability Rule- divine knowledge and power come with a HUGE responsibility to protect humans. They can't show themselves to you because you'd get hurt. Think about it; say you ask Raphael to show up or something, what makes you think a demon like Asmodeus isn't watching and waiting for his chance?

Channeling: I tried to do this once to help a little boy's ghost get home. I was told in no uncertain terms by my guardian that it was a stupid thing to even think. Why? Because if you hand over your body to someone else's soul they can do what they want with it. Besides, there are no guarentees that the 'something' you let in was really a dearly departed and not one of Lucifer's lackeys. Like everyone else has said so far, the only entities that will ever ask you to channel will always let you stay with them. You'll be more of a satellite dish than a borrowed body.

Consulting the dead: Hey, if you can positively, absolutely beyond any doubt identify that they are who you think they are, ask them whatever you like, but always remember that the dead aren't always nice and peaceful. Not to mention you always run the risk of running into something other than a human soul, in which case you're in trouble.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 8:50 pm


Channeling: I nearly lost my self completely by that one. JUST DON"T DO IT. I barely got myself back to normal and it was a very painful experience to do so.

Starwind237
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LadyBugLes
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:28 am


ninjalayer#237
Channeling: I nearly lost my self completely by that one. JUST DON"T DO IT. I barely got myself back to normal and it was a very painful experience to do so.


Yeah... that's why I get kind of annoyed when someone says I "channel" angels.... holy crap, they come of their own accord, and they don't actually do anything but dictate to me... it's just real fast, lol.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:39 pm


Momma always said never to talk to strangers. What makes you think it's okay just because the stranger lacks physical form? razz

Dirk Bolero


LadyBugLes
Captain

PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 8:12 pm


Dirk Bolero
Momma always said never to talk to strangers. What makes you think it's okay just because the stranger lacks physical form? razz


yeah


rofl
PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 8:22 pm


My mantra for communicating with spirits is:

"Speak softly, but carry a big stick."

Terg


Dirk Bolero

PostPosted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 11:14 pm


Wait, you can hit spirits with sticks? That's just yet another similarity between ghosts and piniatas.
PostPosted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 7:28 am


rofl

LadyBugLes
Captain


Terg

PostPosted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 8:30 am


Dirk Bolero
Wait, you can hit spirits with sticks? That's just yet another similarity between ghosts and piniatas.
stare
PostPosted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 11:54 am


Terg
Dirk Bolero
Wait, you can hit spirits with sticks? That's just yet another similarity between ghosts and piniatas.
stare


Thank you! I'll be here all week!

Dirk Bolero


ultra nova

PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:45 pm


No one has the ability to create a soul so who are they trying to kid?

Its because of them other christians aren't accepted, I don't mena to play the blame game but its their falt for saying taht they can do things anime characters can the real ones who use their powers for good still get treated like evil monsters that should be killed in the most horrible fasion.

For some reason the fact that psychics aren't usually accepted in the christian religein it feels like i'm a diclonius from elfen lied.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:39 am


I could do alot of things that I dont do.. I also wish I never had the ability to do some things.. and some things tho bring them selves to me.. it kinda angers me in a way.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 4:49 pm


sistergoldenhair
Channeling spirits: Anything that has to actually POSSESS you to speak to someone... i.e. you leave or have no control and the spirit takes over.... is NOT a good thing.


I almost stabbed my mom in the knee once. I was just sitting there in class and suddenly it was like something took hold of me and made me go from twiddling the pencil in my hand to a stabbing action and i almost stabbed her but i turned the pencil just at the last moment and didn't.

I'm assuming a demon took over...?

I don't know...
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