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Hoxtalicious

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:13 am
C'Tan were deemed to weak when comparing their background to the rules found in the codex. So on and off we keep hearing about how these lesser gods will be shoved into Apocalypse instead and given larger models, courtesy of Forge World. The codex itself will have the mentioned levelled Lords in command of the army. Bronze - Silver - Gold - Platinum (though this ranking has only been speculated at), which is the Imperial designation for these tiers.  
PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:49 am
I doubt that Platinum level lords will make it out of fluff. They're the kinds of guys that control scores of tomb worlds, at least if I'm remembering my fluff properly.  

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:51 am
I'd like to know where you're getting all this fluffiness from. xD
Even if the Platinum Lords come out, they aren't going to be godly are they? At most strength 5-6 and same with toughness.  
PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:43 am
Well, grading of the lords is good imho giving much needed felxibility in smaller games... C'tans are out probably because to match fluff they would have to be ridiculosusly powerful/expensive. As they are now they are sternguard/sniper fodder razz  

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Hoxtalicious

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:02 am
Xenology has a bit or two on this, as do some other BL publications. The tiered lords however can be found in the Apocalypse book.  
PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:17 pm
think if they released a new c'tan, that it would be the devourer?  

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:34 am
There are only four C'Tan gods mentioned so far, right?  
PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 8:02 am
correct. the deceiver, night-bringer, dragon, and devourer.  

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:13 pm
Inenor
correct. the deceiver, night-bringer, dragon, and devourer.
Outsider, Deceiver, Nightbringer, (Void) Dragon, actually.

Deceiver and Nightbringer were the two that were "awake", the Outsider is thought to be trapped in a Dyson Sphere, and the Void Dragon is assumed to be in the Labyrinthine of Mars. Though no one's too sure on that last one.

I'm working off of 3rd Fluff, though. >>  
PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 3:30 am
The Void Dragon is indeed on Mars and being held there by certain individuals. It forms part of the story in the novel Mechanicum.  

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:05 am
Dyson Sphere, that's the name of a hoover here.
Who put him there though?  
PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:25 am
speculation around the nids are that THE hive mind of every fleet is tied to the banished c'tan, the Devourer. Or at least that's the tale i've heard from my local hobbyist. So their may be 5 known if you guys have heard anything to hold up the claim of the devourer.  

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:38 am
The Nids are from another galaxy altogether.  
PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:38 pm
Not to mention, the C'Tan ate each other instead of banishing, at last check. Granted, I'm a few years out of whatever the heck GW's doing with the Necrons.  

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:39 pm
Inenor
speculation around the nids are that THE hive mind of every fleet is tied to the banished c'tan, the Devourer. Or at least that's the tale i've heard from my local hobbyist. So their may be 5 known if you guys have heard anything to hold up the claim of the devourer.


There are no banished C'tan. And there is no Devourer C'tan either. The four remaining C'tan, as mentioned earlier, are the Deceiver, Nightbringer, Void Dragon and Outsider. The Deciever and Nightbringer are at large in the galaxy and could be anywhere. the Void Dragon is suspected to be asleep on Mars, and the Outsider is reportedly stuck inside a massive Dyson Sphere at the edge of the galaxy. "The Great Devourer" is an appellation applied to the Tyranid Race as a whole, not a leader C'tan.

The rumors of the C'tan being connected to the Hive Mind were all born because one of the Hive Fleets (Leviathan, I think?) goes well out of it's way to avoid the Outsider's lair. The Outsider being in control of the Tyranids is one theory, but it ignores the mountain of contradicting elements that work against it.

1) The C'tan are not psychic and are directly opposed to there being any psychic activity, ever. The Tyranids are a highly psychic gestalt. there's no way for the C'tan to be part of the hive mind, influencing the hive mind, or the hive mind itself.

2) The Tyranids origin is extra-galactic, and insofar as we know, since C'tan subsist on stars and bioelectric energy, none have ever left the galaxy for the void between galaxies. Thus there's no connection to the Tyranids.

3) The Tyranids are a macro-predator. Like most critters confronted by a bigger and fiercer critter, they likely sense how bowel-looseningly badass the C'tan is, and are staying the hell away out of pure instinct.

4) Contrary to popular belief, the C'tan don't want to exterminate all life in the galaxy. The C'tan want to round up all the intelligent species of the Galaxy, shut off their psychic powers, and breed them endlessly to be their personal pantry of tasty hor'dourves. Allowing all their delicious brain juice to be gobbled up by some Johnny-come-lately's does not fit in with that plan.  
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