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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:13 am
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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:49 am
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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:51 am
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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:43 am
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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:02 am
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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:17 pm
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:34 am
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 8:02 am
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:13 pm
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Inenor correct. the deceiver, night-bringer, dragon, and devourer. Outsider, Deceiver, Nightbringer, (Void) Dragon, actually.
Deceiver and Nightbringer were the two that were "awake", the Outsider is thought to be trapped in a Dyson Sphere, and the Void Dragon is assumed to be in the Labyrinthine of Mars. Though no one's too sure on that last one.
I'm working off of 3rd Fluff, though. >>
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 3:30 am
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:05 am
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:25 am
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:38 am
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:38 pm
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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:39 pm
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Inenor speculation around the nids are that THE hive mind of every fleet is tied to the banished c'tan, the Devourer. Or at least that's the tale i've heard from my local hobbyist. So their may be 5 known if you guys have heard anything to hold up the claim of the devourer.
There are no banished C'tan. And there is no Devourer C'tan either. The four remaining C'tan, as mentioned earlier, are the Deceiver, Nightbringer, Void Dragon and Outsider. The Deciever and Nightbringer are at large in the galaxy and could be anywhere. the Void Dragon is suspected to be asleep on Mars, and the Outsider is reportedly stuck inside a massive Dyson Sphere at the edge of the galaxy. "The Great Devourer" is an appellation applied to the Tyranid Race as a whole, not a leader C'tan.
The rumors of the C'tan being connected to the Hive Mind were all born because one of the Hive Fleets (Leviathan, I think?) goes well out of it's way to avoid the Outsider's lair. The Outsider being in control of the Tyranids is one theory, but it ignores the mountain of contradicting elements that work against it.
1) The C'tan are not psychic and are directly opposed to there being any psychic activity, ever. The Tyranids are a highly psychic gestalt. there's no way for the C'tan to be part of the hive mind, influencing the hive mind, or the hive mind itself.
2) The Tyranids origin is extra-galactic, and insofar as we know, since C'tan subsist on stars and bioelectric energy, none have ever left the galaxy for the void between galaxies. Thus there's no connection to the Tyranids.
3) The Tyranids are a macro-predator. Like most critters confronted by a bigger and fiercer critter, they likely sense how bowel-looseningly badass the C'tan is, and are staying the hell away out of pure instinct.
4) Contrary to popular belief, the C'tan don't want to exterminate all life in the galaxy. The C'tan want to round up all the intelligent species of the Galaxy, shut off their psychic powers, and breed them endlessly to be their personal pantry of tasty hor'dourves. Allowing all their delicious brain juice to be gobbled up by some Johnny-come-lately's does not fit in with that plan.
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