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 Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 10:46 pm
I figured I might as well contribute while I can. If any of you have an addition to these rules, or if a rule needs modifying or needs to be better explained, feel free to say so here.
Rule Number One.
If you, for any reason, find that you need to cast a circle for whatever it is you are doing (ritual, binding, protection, etc), do NOT under ANY circumstances LEAVE THE CIRCLE!!!
Rule Number Two
When in small groups of inexperienced people in unfamiliar turf at night, don't try to summon anything unless you're certain it won't come back to haunt you later. You might think it's cool or don't believe anything might happen, but there is a school of thought that defines magic as changing probabilities... and we don't want any increased probabilities of something horrible happening like car accidents, inexplicable bouts of madness, etc.
Rule Number Three
Don't mock the dead. They don't like it. And please remember that these people were once somebody's family members.
Rule Number Four
When you are doing something occultish, and you get an inexplicable cold breeze or shiver down your spine, and you have a really bad feeling about something, please trust your instincts. You have them for a reason.
Rule Number Five
If you're going to do a ritual or try to talk to a spirit, or so on, generally as a whole I would think that controlled substances and alcohol in excess are a really, really horrible idea.
Rule Number Six
Well this is more of a polite suggestion, but I'd hope that it would get certain individuals thinking about personal responsibility. Please, if somebody does not want to know about the occult, leave them out of it. They have a right to ignorance.
Also, if there is anything that bothers you that you are afraid you can't handle, this rule of ignorance also applies. One of our biggest weapons against the incorporeal (at least) is our ability of disbelief.
More to come, fingers are tired. Maybe this thread belongs somewhere else, but if you have a question that this applies to, I guess it's sort of like an answering machine for it.
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Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 10:44 pm
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Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 5:50 pm
Rule Number Ten
Never pay for some piece of equipment, etc if you can find it or make it cheaper somewhere else. There's no reason why doing this sort of thing has to cost a lot of money.
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Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 6:14 am
Rule Number Eleven
Don't believe every book or movie you see. It may seem reasonable, but the writer could just be looking to make an extra buck. And obviously, Hollywood is... hollywood. It's not supposed to be accurate.
Look around Wikipedia, which is oftentimes a very credible source. Often when a topic is disputed, there is a sideforum devoted to debate about the said topic. It's a bit difficult to read and not exactly user-friendly, but it does point some things out very nicely.
Pick up a couple other books on the topic. Search the web. Shop a little harder, and when you don't know what else to do, ask on this forum! whee
Others are allowed to add their help tidbits, too.
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 10:29 pm
I left a summoning circle in the park!
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Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:11 pm
I'd disagree with the leaving-the-circle rule if you're doing it for no reason other than ceremony; if you're calling up Cthulhu then it's a necessity.
I'm not so sure about the controlled substances one either. I think you /could/ actually do a ritual while using said controlled substances, so long as you had someone handy to make sure you don't end up bleeding spiders - they probably give some weird introspective vision quest, or inspiration, or something. You shouldn't perform some ritual if you are /currently/ on the alcohol, powder, fumes or tab of your choice, though, since they're known to be just a tad tweaky.
Overall though, awesome rules to take to heart. Thanks for postin' em. =D
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:59 pm
Clean up whatever you used! Dispose of it properly...and for all that is holy NEVER leave anything like a summoning circle anywhere!!! Get rid of it! Don't cause uneccessary problems for people just because you didn't end a ritual or something....
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Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:59 am
Mitsh I'd disagree with the leaving-the-circle rule if you're doing it for no reason other than ceremony; if you're calling up Cthulhu then it's a necessity. I'm not so sure about the controlled substances one either. I think you /could/ actually do a ritual while using said controlled substances, so long as you had someone handy to make sure you don't end up bleeding spiders - they probably give some weird introspective vision quest, or inspiration, or something. You shouldn't perform some ritual if you are /currently/ on the alcohol, powder, fumes or tab of your choice, though, since they're known to be just a tad tweaky. Overall though, awesome rules to take to heart. Thanks for postin' em. =D Obviously, if the ritual calls for it, then it should be okay. Just do your research and make sure that the ritual is how you're actually interpreting it. Evocation rituals are often coded.
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:16 pm
This is not neccessarilly a rule either, but more of an idea of bonus thing. xd
Washing yourself or doing a mini-cleasing ritual before doing anything of supernatural-reasons is always a good idea, or even having special clothings only worn for the purpose of things of the sort. It helps the mind keep and focus, and who knows; it might end up gathering stuff too.
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:38 am
Just some thoughts...
My personal rule #1: Always mind your manners when dealing with... whatever it is you're dealing with. First and foremost, never, never, never share the secret name of an entity with anyone. I suggest you don't even write it down, on the off chance that someone else could read it. Things are secret for a reason. Spilling the beans is, apparently, quite disrespectful, and you will probably be treated in kind for this breach of etiquette.
(Rules as posited here)
#1: Just an aside, but protective circles are not used in certain types of magic. The logic here is that it's rather cowardly and hypocritical to protect yourself from someone you've invited over of your own accord. Imagine being invited to dinner only to find your host behind bulletproof glass. I'm sure you'd be a bit miffed! I'm not saying that you shouldn't use one, though, just that there is another school of thought on the matter.
#2: Start small with the newbies, guys.
#3: Yes, please don't be a jerk. Moreover, if you've nothing better to do than disrespect corpses, I suggest you devote some of that energy to getting a life.
#4: Yes, absolutely. Of course, by this point, it's probably already hit the fan. rofl
#5: While it is true that various psychoactives have been a part of magical tradition for at least several thousands of years, remember that there was always a particular paradigm surrounding the treatment of said substances. If you don't know what you're doing, there is every chance you will get burned for your ignorance. As for alcohol intoxication, having one drink too many is more likely to turn your ritual into a spectacular flop than anything else. If you're comfortable with that, then you probably shouldn't be attempting a ritual in the first place!
#6: Yes, please. Do you remember the prophet from The Odyssey? Could see the future, but the trade-off was that no one would ever believe in these visions. There is a very real chance that talking these kinds of things to the wrong person will have you labeled a complete nutcase. If you're a teen living at home, you could even find yourself on vacation in the loony bin. Overall, it's best to leave outsiders where they are-- outside.
#7: It's entirely possible to be impressed with lesser entities when you're just starting. A lot of these things will lie like a dog! Take anything you're told with a grain of salt (ha ha). If in doubt, here are two words to recite: "Prove it!" This will often shut them up by itself.
More developed entities have a better grasp of humanity. Expect various tricks of rhetoric that debate teams everywhere would envy. Don't be fooled by this kind of verbal sleight-of-hand. Stick to your guns, stay focused, and always be wary of deception. Remember, a lie that's 99% true is still a lie! You're not going to be able to rely on cues of body language and micro-expressions.
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:30 pm
Thorn apple #7: It's entirely possible to be impressed with lesser entities when you're just starting. A lot of these things will lie like a dog! Take anything you're told with a grain of salt (ha ha). If in doubt, here are two words to recite: "Prove it!" This will often shut them up by itself. More developed entities have a better grasp of humanity. Expect various tricks of rhetoric that debate teams everywhere would envy. Don't be fooled by this kind of verbal sleight-of-hand. Stick to your guns, stay focused, and always be wary of deception. Remember, a lie that's 99% true is still a lie! You're not going to be able to rely on cues of body language and micro-expressions. Truth and lies are also a point of view. Whose truth are you dealing with exactly? Certainly, you cannot expect something that isn't human to view things through your conception of truth. Something that is true to you may also be a lie; either a lie to yourself or a lie from someone else's point of view. Example: It is a bright and sunny day, not a cloud in the sky. You tell your friend on the phone that the sky looks so perfectly blue. That statement, to you, is the truth. Is it true to a man who cannot see? Maybe. But is it true to someone who lifes half a world away? To him, it is night, and the sky may be black to him. Is it a different sky just because of the way you are looking at it? Possibly. Or is the way that you're looking at it that makes the sky look different? Another possibility. All of these possibilities are sematics.
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:53 pm
Rhetoric...99% reason...YOU'RE ONE OF THEM!
No, seriously. While we could get into an unresolvable dispute about the subjective nature of truth, and the line between lies and mistakes, I would consider my sentiment of alertness as implied above to be a good rule of thumb for most any social encounter. Your mileage may vary.
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:26 pm
LilaMalvae Thorn apple #7: It's entirely possible to be impressed with lesser entities when you're just starting. A lot of these things will lie like a dog! Take anything you're told with a grain of salt (ha ha). If in doubt, here are two words to recite: "Prove it!" This will often shut them up by itself. More developed entities have a better grasp of humanity. Expect various tricks of rhetoric that debate teams everywhere would envy. Don't be fooled by this kind of verbal sleight-of-hand. Stick to your guns, stay focused, and always be wary of deception. Remember, a lie that's 99% true is still a lie! You're not going to be able to rely on cues of body language and micro-expressions. Truth and lies are also a point of view. Whose truth are you dealing with exactly? Certainly, you cannot expect something that isn't human to view things through your conception of truth. Something that is true to you may also be a lie; either a lie to yourself or a lie from someone else's point of view. Example: It is a bright and sunny day, not a cloud in the sky. You tell your friend on the phone that the sky looks so perfectly blue. That statement, to you, is the truth. Is it true to a man who cannot see? Maybe. But is it true to someone who lifes half a world away? To him, it is night, and the sky may be black to him. Is it a different sky just because of the way you are looking at it? Possibly. Or is the way that you're looking at it that makes the sky look different? Another possibility. All of these possibilities are sematics. Also to add, you can tell someone a lie but think it truth yourself if it is what you have been told is truth. You're still lieing to the other person but you believe you are telling the truth. In that case are you lieing or telling the truth?
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:45 am
I already answered that question. My point was that the concept of truth that is thrown around is variable. However, Truth, in its ideal concept, is not.
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 7:25 pm
I agree with number seven for people who are new to things. For someone who's more experienced and knows what they're dealing with, not all demons are bad. By all means keep your guard up until you know for sure you can trust an entity. But then again, that rule should be followed with all entities. I've run into some pretty nasty angels.
And of course, if a demon hasn't proven them self yet- NEVER say yes to a demon. that's giving permission for it too possess you or maybe other things to. Not matter what the question is- don't say yes. Example; If they ask if you want them to leave, don't say yes, say go away.
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