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 Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 12:36 pm
I've put some thought into our new miracle fuel ethanol, and I think that if we switch primarily to ethanol to power vehicles and stuff, the Mid West would dry up do to overfarming, thus causing more harm to the economy and the environment than good.
Your thoughts?
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Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 1:00 pm
There is no miracle fuel. We should revert to the Earth Mother's gift of legs to get around.
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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 10:00 am
I want cars that run on water or solar power.
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 5:53 pm
danielthemad There is no miracle fuel. We should revert to the Earth Mother's gift of legs to get around. It is sad how a lot of people rely on automobiles as their source of transportation. Walking is a relaxing practice usually, anyway. 3nodding
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 5:54 pm
Lady Austina I want cars that run on water or solar power. That would make sense, since we have a lot of sun to our disposal xd
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:11 pm
danielthemad There is no miracle fuel. We should revert to the Earth Mother's gift of legs to get around. what about people who don't have legs? sad
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 7:01 pm
You can't live on a rural commune *and* go to the farmer's market 15 miles away without a car, at least not without more time than I have and more space than there is on my bike.
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Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 2:22 am
Walking should be dine whenever possible. If you live in the city, there really is no need for you to drive. You can walk or if something is too far away take the bus or subway. For people out in the country, it's a little more difficult.
It'd be nice if they could make solar powered cars, but they'd have to be able to store energy so people could drive at night.
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 11:18 pm
Energy really shouldn't be a crisis.
40 windmills (these are actual windmills, mind you, not theoretic ones) off the coast of Ireland are capable of powering all of Dublin.
Another thing that's already been made: engines that run by moving around Neon, Zenon, Radium, and other complex noble gases using nothing but a little spark. -The movement produces enough energy to run a car, and costs only about $114 a year.
Energy as a necessity can be supplied easily, and energy as a luxury can be made the same way.
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Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 2:22 am
everyone should ride bycicles, like in china! 3nodding and if they have no legs.... um... wheelchairs? or we could all ride camels everywhere, maybe llamas or alpacas 4laugh but if it hurt the animals then we'd have to stop, by command of me domokun I think if we could find a way to store the methane the cows like to make, we could use that, but it seems pretty unlikley that anyone one finds a way to do it. whee in the end, maybe the government should make the only legal types of fuel the environmentally friendly kind neutral like wind mills, and solar power, and those tide thinga-ma-hickeys....
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 6:06 pm
Yes, I believe in the miracles of bikes and walking. I've stopped cruising in my jeep and went back to my old ways. Hoofin' it. cool
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 6:13 pm
Cars cause obesity, obesity causes disease, disease causes death, death costs money, costs money causes a drop in the economy, drop in the economy causes technology to fall apart, then only hippies will survive, because they can walk and know the wonders of nature! eek
Well, DAMN!
By that reasoning, let's give EVERYBODY cars!
Except hippies....give them electric railcars. 3nodding
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Lord Thatlatu of the Tofu
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Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 7:12 am
Heck yeah, I'd ride the rail. 3nodding
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Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 10:03 am
I guess I can't say that I'm a true hippie, as I live less than a mile from my high school and I still drive a car. Of course, driving to and from school is one of the only ways that I can get driving practice in. And my backpack is really heavy since I have to carry at least two textbooks to school everyday. I only weight 110 pounds, and it's not like much of that is muscle.
Even though my family lives in a large city (Las Vegas), we still drive around a lot. This is because most of Las Vegas, except parts of downtown, is very spread out. We live far to the north in the nicer suburbs, and everyday my brother has to make a long commute to the university. We must commute all around town, and walking really isn't an option. That is one of the reasons why gridlock and air pollution is becoming a growing issue for Las Vegans.
Alternate sources of energy would definitely help us solve this problem, but it is true that there is no "miracle" fuel. Ethanol would certainly be better than normal gasoline, and I doubt that it would "dry up" the West. America produces so many grains on millions of acres already and we won't experience anything like the Dust Bowl again due to better farming practices and new technology. Water powered cars would be an interesting invention, but I can see the steam they give off as a danger to local environments, as it may result in a much more saturated atmosphere than usual. Still not as bad as gasoline, though. As for solar power - well, that may be our best bet. Cars powered on xenon, radium, and neon would probably cost more to manufacture than $114 a year. That may be the problem with those. Not to mention that those three elements are exactly common, and radium has high levels of radioacitivity.
So there's my scientific two cents for the day. mrgreen
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Lord Thatlatu of the Tofu
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Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 11:18 pm
Tree Beatle Maiden I guess I can't say that I'm a true hippie, as I live less than a mile from my high school and I still drive a car. Of course, driving to and from school is one of the only ways that I can get driving practice in. And my backpack is really heavy since I have to carry at least two textbooks to school everyday. I only weight 110 pounds, and it's not like much of that is muscle.
Even though my family lives in a large city (Las Vegas), we still drive around a lot. This is because most of Las Vegas, except parts of downtown, is very spread out. We live far to the north in the nicer suburbs, and everyday my brother has to make a long commute to the university. We must commute all around town, and walking really isn't an option. That is one of the reasons why gridlock and air pollution is becoming a growing issue for Las Vegans.
Alternate sources of energy would definitely help us solve this problem, but it is true that there is no "miracle" fuel. Ethanol would certainly be better than normal gasoline, and I doubt that it would "dry up" the West. America produces so many grains on millions of acres already and we won't experience anything like the Dust Bowl again due to better farming practices and new technology. Water powered cars would be an interesting invention, but I can see the steam they give off as a danger to local environments, as it may result in a much more saturated atmosphere than usual. Still not as bad as gasoline, though. As for solar power - well, that may be our best bet. Cars powered on xenon, radium, and neon would probably cost more to manufacture than $114 a year. That may be the problem with those. Not to mention that those three elements are exactly common, and radium has high levels of radioacitivity.
So there's my scientific two cents for the day. mrgreen They've already got about 5000 engines manufactured, and the amounts necessary are very small, while the engine is very basic. -They use far less of the said elements than a neon sign, and the technology is only chemical, with mechanics that were around 2200 years ago. It's a solution, but it's also not widely known. -The organization that makes them, as well as many other simple-yet-incredible things, is still mostly here in Oregon still, and their budget isn't huge. -There is a solution to life other than death (although there is only one end), and these people are finding it.
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