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 Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 3:23 pm
I've been thinking just now about the release change that KoA made with Suikoden V and it isn't a happy thought.
Why are they cowardice? To me, this seems like KoA has no confident in Suikoden V's turnout. This also tells me tat they don't believe in their marketing. I mean, you potentially set out to compete with Kingdom Hearts 2 for sales on the day of release, but then back out? Yeah they might say that they did it for the fans, but in truth, we know why they did it.
Basically, this is just me wondering if Konami of America (or Konami in general) doesn't believe in this series enough. This really shows that they don't. Heck, Chikku kind of stirred a thought up when she said that this might get some people going to buy KH2 will instead buy SV. Why didn't they just leave the release date as is and see just how well Suikoden V will fair against the fandom of Kingdom Hearts. Doing this only proves that they'll never be confident enough in this series to let it attempt to rumble with the big boys.
So in the end I'm saying that I'm sad because it seems like our beloved series isn't "good" enough to compete. Well, what are your thoughts on this?
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 5:58 pm
Hmm... A very interesting point. I'd say, Konami never did have faith in this series in the first place. I mean, what about Suikoden Card Stories? The Gaidens? Although I've heard they were enjoyable games, they probably were never released over here because KoA probably didn't feel that those kinds of games wouldn't appeal to the larger gaming audience. Or course, I could be totally wrong on this. It's probably for financial reasons. Or something. Like... pie. Something.
But what gets me, is that Konami seems to put so much work into these games. What with the history, characters and side-stories, you'd think they'd be breaking champagne bottles on release day. But no. It's because Konami SUCKS with marketing. Or maybe they're cowards. Hell, if I were an under rated game that had to battle KH or FF with my bare hands, I'd be afraid.
But, for me, Suikoden doesn't need to compete. I mean, seriosuly, it's Suikoden.
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 2:54 pm
Well, not that I'm saying anything bad about Suikoden, I love the game, but I really don't think that it COULD compete with KH2. KH2 just has to many fans. Suikoden isn't as well known as KH.
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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 8:09 am
It isnt only that but alot of gamers who might like Suikoden also might like Kingdoms Hearts and they might would have to pick which one they would get. I also heard news KH2 has been pushed back to april 12 but i dont if it is accurate or not.
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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 9:35 am
Hero Of Three Kingdoms It isnt only that but alot of gamers who might like Suikoden also might like Kingdoms Hearts and they might would have to pick which one they would get. I also heard news KH2 has been pushed back to april 12 but i dont if it is accurate or not. I'm going to buy KH2 first. It does keep getting pushed back though. It was supposed to come out a year ago!
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:52 pm
I think Konami of America's main focus is making money. If the release stayed on the same day as KH2, Konami certainly wouldn't make as much money as they could a week ahead. It's always beteer to turna profit earlier rather then later
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 12:10 pm
Futch I think Konami of America's main focus is making money. If the release stayed on the same day as KH2, Konami certainly wouldn't make as much money as they could a week ahead. It's always beteer to turna profit earlier rather then later Yeah, release them on the same date and of coure KH2 will steal all of the sales. Suikoden 5 would hardly get any.
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 6:16 am
Dark_Dragoon77 Futch I think Konami of America's main focus is making money. If the release stayed on the same day as KH2, Konami certainly wouldn't make as much money as they could a week ahead. It's always beteer to turna profit earlier rather then later Yeah, release them on the same date and of coure KH2 will steal all of the sales. Suikoden 5 would hardly get any. Let's face it. When you encounter an eighthundred pound gorilla it is usually wise to try and go around it. 3nodding
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 9:53 am
well as i see it, the suikoden series is by far one of the best there is. i think theyre just a little skeptic cause the series did go down hill a bit after the original creator left. but really, you dont and probably never will see any of the kingdom hearts selling on ebay for over 100 dollars now would you? that just kinda proves the sukis are better.
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 6:14 am
IrisTwilight well as i see it, the suikoden series is by far one of the best there is. i think theyre just a little skeptic cause the series did go down hill a bit after the original creator left. but really, you dont and probably never will see any of the kingdom hearts selling on ebay for over 100 dollars now would you? that just kinda proves the sukis are better. It's because there is no shortage of Kingdom Hearts games. Now in my opinion Suikoden II is a better game than Kingdom Hearts, heck I think Suikoden II is one of the finest RPGs ever made but it wouldn't be so expensive if more copies had been published.
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 8:48 am
Strideo IrisTwilight well as i see it, the suikoden series is by far one of the best there is. i think theyre just a little skeptic cause the series did go down hill a bit after the original creator left. but really, you dont and probably never will see any of the kingdom hearts selling on ebay for over 100 dollars now would you? that just kinda proves the sukis are better. It's because there is no shortage of Kingdom Hearts games. Now in my opinion Suikoden II is a better game than Kingdom Hearts, heck I think Suikoden II is one of the finest RPGs ever made but it wouldn't be so expensive if more copies had been published. and there would be a shortage if it wasnt sush great of a game xd
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 8:49 am
IrisTwilight Strideo IrisTwilight well as i see it, the suikoden series is by far one of the best there is. i think theyre just a little skeptic cause the series did go down hill a bit after the original creator left. but really, you dont and probably never will see any of the kingdom hearts selling on ebay for over 100 dollars now would you? that just kinda proves the sukis are better. It's because there is no shortage of Kingdom Hearts games. Now in my opinion Suikoden II is a better game than Kingdom Hearts, heck I think Suikoden II is one of the finest RPGs ever made but it wouldn't be so expensive if more copies had been published. and there would be a shortage if it wasnt sush great of a game xd wouldnt be such a shortage*, so yeah it is the best
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 10:14 am
actually, from what I heard, GS5 sales in Japan weren't that high and they were the test subjects. I bet that if GS5 sold a lot of copies in Japan when it came out, it would've probably convinced Konami to challenge KH2.
But why are we really complaining? We should be happy that we got GS5 earlier than expected.
The thing with KH2 is it is not only a product of Square Enix, but is also supported by Disney which also have ga-million-zillion supporters and I'm not just talking about consumers here, but also other major companies as well... so it's like being heavily outnumbered in a battlefield and only a good strategy, preferably by Shu or any of the Silverburgs, can actually give them a chance of gaining anything.
I'm not saying it's a losing battle... it's more like trying not to drown. But then again, that's just me.
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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:20 am
Suikoden 5 and Konami
(The rabid loyal fanbase, highly fanatic in our love of Suikodon)
vs
Kingdom Hearts 2
(Everyone with a PS2 who hasn't entered puberty yet, gamers who liked the first Kingdom Hearts, parents who trust games from Disney, Wal-Mart who will trust / push Disney products)
Really, that isn't a fair fight at all.
Buy by releasing Suikoden 5 earler, so it isn't competing with the sales of Kingdom Hearts 2, Konami of America has a chance of it hitting higher on the list of 'Top 10 PS2 Games Sold' for the week of it's release which means more recognition, especially from smaller or non-gamer stores, meaning a higher chance the store will order more copies of it (or order copies of it at all!) after seeing it do so well in its release week.
Totally a marketing or business ploy which we see all the time with movie release dates getting moved around so they don't compete or so that they do potentially pre-empt other movies.
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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 7:18 am
Competition is good for business, so I see your point Keo. Maybe Konami isn't willing to compete with such a strong fanbase. It could also beother reason but I see your point.
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