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 Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 6:48 am
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:48 am
I say let people do what the hell they want... that's what America is about anyway. Just leave me out of it.
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 2:16 pm
Societal mental retardation explains the current situation of homosexuals and bisexuals in our society, in my opinion.
I do not refer to it as "religion", note. There is a difference between "I believe in god" and "Mr. Rogers is burning in hell because he did not make anti-homosexual statements" - and yes, there are Christians who actually believe that. (Not just the 'church' - if the Westboro Baptist Cult can be called that - infamous for saying it, either.) When it's at least significantly genetic and beyond reasonable individual control, then you can not hide behind the "moral values" of your religion and still be a figure worthy of respect, in my view.
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:43 pm
I don't like that being told you are born in the wrong body...I mean, it's not like that many gay men desire to become women at all. I certainly don't desire being a man, especially considering I'm bisexual - would that mean I should become a hermaphrodite?
Norms of society are constantly changing and being renegiotated in societies - even the famous sociologist, G.P. Murdock's definition of a family is being greatly rejected because of gay and lesbian families and concrete evidence that children raised in these families turnout just fine like most of us.
A few people still carry that 1980's ideal and image of HIV/AIDS, but I can tell you for certain that is definately not the case in Africa - the only issues or concerns we have with blood per se is gays and lesbians not being allowed to donate blood. The good news is that the Blood Transfusion and Donation services in South Africa are changing and are currently trying to change policies to rectify this. Responsibility comes into play regardless of HIV/AIDS status and there are too many HIV/AIDS programs in Africa that you often wonder if there is such a thing as the 'flu because you hardly hear a thing about that.
Where the hell do you stay by the way Logan that such ideas are still in place??
Otherwise, in my view, religion was created by a bunch of men who felt threatened for power. So they came up with laws within a book, that was being control by something that doesn't exist but 'does' exist, and proclaimed heresy if you went against their word. Even in this day and age, the Roman Catholic Church INSIST on doing all sorts of psychological and physical testing to make sure that there is no spiritual force possessing your soul before they even consider exorcism.
Unfortunately this is one of the massive cults in the world that have become socially acceptable.
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Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:06 am
While I do agree that closed-minds are a deplorable thing, it is quite closed-minded to say that homosexuals are bron in the wrong body. While some of us know there is a physical sexuality, there is also a mental sexuality, which comes with the mental sex and gender we are born with.
Many of us are heterosexual both in mind and body. Many of us are homosexual in mind and body. Smoe of us, like you mentioned, feel like they are one sex in mind, while the other in body. These are homosexual in body, but are still called heterosexuals. Why? Because they don't feel like they are "against nature" at all. Sure, homosexuals feel natural about their sexuality, but these cases feel like they are, simply, one of the bunch, at least mentally.
what I mean to say is that you shouldn't bunch them all in one group, because it makes you sound condescending, like you are pitying them.
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Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 11:48 am
To answer Madamfluff's question I Live in England where there is still a gangs and religious zealousness which can be quite scary at times, there is still some strong fears and prejidist (Sorry even WP couldn't find the correct spelling) against those who prefer the same gender or both genders.
England is quite hypercritical in as much as it say we accept those who are Gay or BI but as soon as some one in the lime light or the person down the street owns up to being as such it because like some which hunt or with those in the lime light like governmental officials the Press go dirt digging in order to try and make some news which we all read despite knowing what the press is doing is wrong and it hurts and damages the reputation of that person.
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 2:15 am
It's truly that if one is a gay or lesbian wanting to practice politics, it gets used against you. I can understand the "weird factor" of not being able to directly produce a baby with your same-sexed partner, but I find it rather dispicable that great minds go to waste over a thing of sexuality.
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:46 am
I know it is so sad that even in his modern day and age that people are still slaves to group norm and any one out side that norm are looked down upon and ostracized for being either born different or thinking different to the group norm.
((Hmmm give me an idea for a new topic this dose ))
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 6:09 pm
You can't say that Christians or Catholics are bad people, though, for that is their religion. My friend took me to her youth group and the pastor said homosexuality is wrong and if you know a homosexual person, you should try and dissuade them from their ways to save their soul. It may be hella annoying, but if you think about it, they think they're doing you a favor by doing that. Also, it is the way your family deals with it. My friends have parents that are likely to walk out of the bathroom naked, but when they ask a question of any sexual nature, their parents change the subject. My mother never outright gave me "the talk", but if I ever ask a sexual question (which I have) then she'll answer it the best she can. Like when I asked why the two guys are kissing, she explained it and said it was all okay, however.
Upbringing only has some to do with it. My very openly gay friend Neil grew up in a Mormon family, though, but they have learned to accept his sexuality.
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 7:25 pm
Nothing wrong with religion, it defines people and their personalities! Religion is only bad is when you are convinced that if you don't pray, God is going to come down on your and thunder-bolt your a**. Or so with people with OCD suffering from obsessions concerning religion. The only thing I have a problem with religion is, that if God created everything, and that we are an image of himself - then why should gays and lesbians be shunned then? Evolutionarily-speaking, when donkeys were the greatest way to get around, it was difficult to conceive as a gay man or a lesbian woman - but our technologies today, why the hell not reverse this and all sorts of other stigmas attached?
I mean, it's an incredible milestone for gay and lesbian rights for homosexuality to have been ruled out as a mental "illness" in the 1960's epoch.
Upbringing has a lot to do with acceptance. I'm still very much hiding in the closet with my family because my mother despises lesbians and think they are failures because they could not have settled down with a man. She accepts my sister's gay friend, Sean, but she has this huge stigma attached to women being lesbians.
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 7:35 pm
Heh, my mom has enough kids to make grandkids and is really openminded so if I was a lesbian and told her, she wouldn't care. As it stands, I'm bisexual so my chances of ending up with a guy or a girl is 50-50.
That is what bugs me about some religions. They say everyone is equal under God except certain people. The church I go to is reeeeeally liberal, though, so there are some gays and lesbians in the congregation and a girl who had a child as a teen and out of wedlock but we all love each other anyway and know that it is what is inside that counts.
Also, a really big thing is that recently a bill was passed in Washington (state) that bans homosexual abuse so people could go to jail for abusing a homosexual just because they were homosexual.
There's a guy in choir with me who doesn't like homosexuals but he won't go out and abuse them because he at least realizes that just because do anything to him (anything bad anyway), he won't do anything to them. I think more people should be like that.
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:40 am
You know, if God actually handed down some lightning-fueled whupass, not only would it be cool, but cannibals wouldn't need to cook their food, and the sky would always be sizzling, not to mention there'd be a permanent BBQ smell in the air, which is always good.
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:21 pm
Lord Vyce You know, if God actually handed down some lightning-fueled whupass, not only would it be cool, but cannibals wouldn't need to cook their food, and the sky would always be sizzling, not to mention there'd be a permanent BBQ smell in the air, which is always good. Reminds me of one part of the Vampire: Bloodlines game. Your character escapes from a manical holy man who is part of an organisation set on destroying vampires and stuff, and you smell burnt and stuff. The security guard downstairs to where your boss-man is, is all like "*schniff schniff* Whoa man! Who burnt the burgers? Mmmm...I could go for one now...with lettuce...and onion...and cheese...and..."
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:36 pm
I hate homophobes people and people who think that they can get AIDS by just standing next to an infected person.
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 10:42 am
Gays are people. Don't ask, don't tell. I couldn't care less anymore,(recently got over homo-phobia thanks to Sir Thursday) and as long as I'm left out of it, then they can do whatever they want.
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