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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:34 am


id like to start a novice learning group for tarot cards and other things of that nature and was wondering if anyone was interested in joining!~

im really just getting started with this, so i dont have a lot of people yet.
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:20 pm


I'm kind of interested- but what would you be using to study by?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:27 pm


We're starting with mary greer's "21 ways to read a tarot card" and id like it to continue to evolve from there!

Theres a reading exchange, and honestly, im open for ideas!
PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:14 am


I'm interested, not sure how reliable I'll be for people to get a hold of me, but I am interested.
I have my own deck, I've done a few readings, but I'm very very new.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:05 pm


ieatwood
We're starting with mary greer's "21 ways to read a tarot card" and id like it to continue to evolve from there!

Theres a reading exchange, and honestly, im open for ideas!

I'm not really comfortable with that book because she encourages "Cold readings". cat_sweatdrop
PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:32 pm


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We're starting with mary greer's "21 ways to read a tarot card" and id like it to continue to evolve from there!

Theres a reading exchange, and honestly, im open for ideas!

I'm not really comfortable with that book because she encourages "Cold readings". cat_sweatdrop


I have to say i havent read the book through yet- but i certainly wouldnt propagate that idea. I think context can help you understand what the cards are saying but isnt cold reading more about using lots of external clues and guesses to shape the reading and less about the cards?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:56 pm


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We're starting with mary greer's "21 ways to read a tarot card" and id like it to continue to evolve from there!

Theres a reading exchange, and honestly, im open for ideas!

I'm not really comfortable with that book because she encourages "Cold readings". cat_sweatdrop


I have to say i havent read the book through yet- but i certainly wouldnt propagate that idea. I think context can help you understand what the cards are saying but isnt cold reading more about using lots of external clues and guesses to shape the reading and less about the cards?
Yep- she talks about responding to people's reactions to the cards and stuff.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 12:29 am


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ieatwood
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We're starting with mary greer's "21 ways to read a tarot card" and id like it to continue to evolve from there!

Theres a reading exchange, and honestly, im open for ideas!

I'm not really comfortable with that book because she encourages "Cold readings". cat_sweatdrop


I have to say i havent read the book through yet- but i certainly wouldnt propagate that idea. I think context can help you understand what the cards are saying but isnt cold reading more about using lots of external clues and guesses to shape the reading and less about the cards?
Yep- she talks about responding to people's reactions to the cards and stuff.


you dont think their responses to the cards are valid information? (i still haven't gotten to that part of the book yet)
certainly you shouldnt be interpreting the cards soley in this way, but once you've interpreted and want to get them to look at the cards and understand the information, wouldn't that a. give you insight into their emotional state and thought processes and b. confirm your reading and or help you lead them to see what you see?

from what i understood, cold reading had more to do with leading the querant to give you answers you didn't have to make them believe you have more knowledge than you actually do.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:09 am


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you dont think their responses to the cards are valid information? (i still haven't gotten to that part of the book yet)
certainly you shouldnt be interpreting the cards soley in this way, but once you've interpreted and want to get them to look at the cards and understand the information, wouldn't that a. give you insight into their emotional state and thought processes and b. confirm your reading and or help you lead them to see what you see?

from what i understood, cold reading had more to do with leading the querant to give you answers you didn't have to make them believe you have more knowledge than you actually do.

I don't think there's a difference between what you described as a cold reading and what she is suggesting people do- lots of people don't know what the cards really mean, so responding to their reaction to a card like the death card is going to make the reading worse lots of the time.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:17 am


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ieatwood


you dont think their responses to the cards are valid information? (i still haven't gotten to that part of the book yet)
certainly you shouldnt be interpreting the cards soley in this way, but once you've interpreted and want to get them to look at the cards and understand the information, wouldn't that a. give you insight into their emotional state and thought processes and b. confirm your reading and or help you lead them to see what you see?

from what i understood, cold reading had more to do with leading the querant to give you answers you didn't have to make them believe you have more knowledge than you actually do.

I don't think there's a difference between what you described as a cold reading and what she is suggesting people do- lots of people don't know what the cards really mean, so responding to their reaction to a card like the death card is going to make the reading worse lots of the time.


the death card is a very bad example.
ill have to find the segment to really discuss this i guess.

however, i just picked up the book from a suggestion through someone else, and thought it would be a good base to start with. i have no qualms about throwing out rules that don't gel with me or don't work for me, and i wouldn't promote trying to trick people with the cards at all.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:59 am


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you dont think their responses to the cards are valid information? (i still haven't gotten to that part of the book yet)
certainly you shouldnt be interpreting the cards soley in this way, but once you've interpreted and want to get them to look at the cards and understand the information, wouldn't that a. give you insight into their emotional state and thought processes and b. confirm your reading and or help you lead them to see what you see?

from what i understood, cold reading had more to do with leading the querant to give you answers you didn't have to make them believe you have more knowledge than you actually do.

I don't think there's a difference between what you described as a cold reading and what she is suggesting people do- lots of people don't know what the cards really mean, so responding to their reaction to a card like the death card is going to make the reading worse lots of the time.


do you have other suggestions of books to look at?
PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 10:23 pm


ieatwood


do you have other suggestions of books to look at?

I think stuff that looks at the hero's journey would be useful, and I had a book that explained the numerology that describes the tarot so maybe I can find it again.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 10:49 pm


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do you have other suggestions of books to look at?

I think stuff that looks at the hero's journey would be useful, and I had a book that explained the numerology that describes the tarot so maybe I can find it again.


ill definitely look into that :]
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