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| What should we, as individuals, be doing right now as a main outlet of helping the economy? |
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 Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 3:42 pm
Post what you think everyone should be doing during this economy. It doesn't matter if you want to say what families should be doing or the government in general, just give your opinion.
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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 2:22 pm
Thats easy..
STOP capitalism.
we were not designed to be capitalist.
Every form of gov has its problems...Capitalism has the worst problems.
Another point:
KICK the corps out. they arent hiring USA persons. but they sell AS IF, the products are made in the USA. most products are marked up 10-100 times. even the iphone have a profit margin over $200..
100 people in a corp, send out for a product to be made. its made and shipped to the USA for pennies. the corps make profits that would make Mideas happy. since 90% of their workers arnt HERE, why shuld the corp be in this country...SHIP the rest of the CORP out of country.
The laws in other countries for corps are NOT as nice as in the USA.
Part of the problem is that the USA has been playing with the VALUE of money. Every time the gov. makes EXTRA money, the value goes down. if you look at the min wage, as the value goes down, our wages should go up. they didnt. The only rise waas in upper management wages, to correct for the values of the dollar. And as you look at it over the years..TOP has gone up 3-10 times.. When you are talking $100,000 per year, thats a GOOD amount of money. Conpare that from $2 per hour.. we didnt go up 10 times..
Also the bills, went up 5 times..rent/gas/electric/and all the rest were affected.
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:15 am
We are, as in a simplified manner, an economic shithole due to over-spending and loans that are unable to be paid. Debts soar as jobs cascade in a steep and depressing plunge. What isn't helping our economy is Clinton's bill passed saying that bigger manufacturers and tycoons can send our direly needed jobs overseas to the lesser countries to make third-world merchandise and accessories. The debts and unbalanced amounts we owe as a nation leaves only ourselves as civilized individuals to blame, some are not as civilized. I believe we need a more structural base like Regan's famous Reganomics and not this piece of s**t scum of the socialist Obamacare. All it's doing is plummeting us more into debt.
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:05 am
AT LEAST YOU HAVE SOMEONE TO BLAME.
but do you know the basics of HOW business, is done..
NOT RUN. but how it works?
The basic laws imposed, were removed. those laws were bypassed and uninforced for years..
So the corps ran amuck.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21228354.500-revealed--the-capitalist-network-that-runs-the-world.html
THIS is what is killing it. how many Corps run all the rest of the companies..
Also, in the 70's, something interesting happened. there was a price jump, in EVERYTHING..for no real reason.
It went like this..
The gov Takes this % from you...
you have this % left to spend.
The Corps saw all this excess money and increased prices, until FEWER could pay. then Slowly lowered the prices. Until they got to the point they were making GOOD profit..NOT a reasonable price for goods.. A GOOD PROFIT.
Ask your parents about how many SALES there were in the OLD DAYS. 50-60's..NOT that many. A 10% sale was pretty good.
NOW I see discount stores with sales of 50% and know they are still making money.
No other country has 1 FIXED price. but when we sell to other countries, we Raise the price we are selling to them, THEN we raise the price in the USA..also. we dont have a national price and international.
Those same corps started buying out the Farms..
Increased production 800%, and messing up the land with CRAP that wasnt CRAP..
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 7:15 am
Well I don't know about your countries, but I'm no economy expert, so...
I think that it isn't spending/saving money. If you save money, inflation's gonna kill it's value or the bank will go bankrupt and you'll lose it. If you spend it, it's gone anyway, because the price of things decreases as they get older and are used. Unless we're talking about land. Land, in my opinion, holds it's value and can cost more as time goes on, because cities are expanding.
Countries don't have money. Individuals can't solve this, we'd have to work as a whole. The problem is in the approach: we don't ask "How can we solve this?" but instead "For how much longer can this issue be put off?"
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 2:58 pm
WELL,
you are almost correct.
Here is something from the consumer view.
IF I save money(NOt speand it) the goods SIT, and to make them sell, the store must lower prices..
For the STORE to lower prices, the middle man, MUST LOWER prices..
WHO ever looses Profit margin, is WHO EVER gives up first..
HERE is the Corp view..
If people are BUYING, I hold the price or raise it, a small amount..to get MORE profit. I dont need to change/upgrade it, because it is being purchased..
But, to kill the profit margin or the seller..the seller will CUT as many jobs as needed, to KEEP HIS profit margin.
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:40 pm
Ahoy..
Coming from the perspective of a simpleton, Im not a exactly sure theres a right way to govern people.
People are always bitching about how our government sucks, or how other countries government sucks, etc etc etc. In all honesty, I think government fails in general. Its an invisible idea people seem to try to hard to perfect. And the more they "fix" it, the more the worth of it decreases.. In other words, turns to s**t..
One group of people think we need to spend more money, another says we need to conserve our money. Regardless of what we do, The US dollar will be, and will always be, loosing its value. Theres not a steady cash flow. We cant solve our debt problem if people arent going to give the government cash, and we cant solve our poverty problem if the government is going to keep raising the ******** taxes ( as if thats the answer to every damn debt problem they have )
For those of you that lack the want to read all that, I'll sum up everything I said, We arent going to solve our debt problem. There is no way. From the imbalance of partys in the big houses, to the lack of knowlage of the people with their money. We need to completely get rid of the modern idiocracy and go back to level 1. If we dont want to that, I have a new plan.
Legalize drugs, Limit migration into the US, Stop hiring poor ******** to do our work in other countries, and keep religion out of the damn government.
cheers
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:48 pm
iEatAcid Ahoy.. Coming from the perspective of a simpleton, Im not a exactly sure theres a right way to govern people. People are always bitching about how our government sucks, or how other countries government sucks, etc etc etc. In all honesty, I think government fails in general. Its an invisible idea people seem to try to hard to perfect. And the more they "fix" it, the more the worth of it decreases.. In other words, turns to s**t.. One group of people think we need to spend more money, another says we need to conserve our money. Regardless of what we do, The US dollar will be, and will always be, loosing its value. Theres not a steady cash flow. We cant solve our debt problem if people arent going to give the government cash, and we cant solve our poverty problem if the government is going to keep raising the ******** taxes ( as if thats the answer to every damn debt problem they have ) For those of you that lack the want to read all that, I'll sum up everything I said, We arent going to solve our debt problem. There is no way. From the imbalance of partys in the big houses, to the lack of knowlage of the people with their money. We need to completely get rid of the modern idiocracy and go back to level 1. If we dont want to that, I have a new plan. Legalize drugs, Limit migration into the US, Stop hiring poor ******** to do out work in other countries, and keep religion out of the damn government. cheers the statement above is smarter than our polititions.
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anonymous trickster Captain
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:50 am
Warrior orb5 iEatAcid Ahoy.. Coming from the perspective of a simpleton, Im not a exactly sure theres a right way to govern people. People are always bitching about how our government sucks, or how other countries government sucks, etc etc etc. In all honesty, I think government fails in general. Its an invisible idea people seem to try to hard to perfect. And the more they "fix" it, the more the worth of it decreases.. In other words, turns to s**t.. One group of people think we need to spend more money, another says we need to conserve our money. Regardless of what we do, The US dollar will be, and will always be, loosing its value. Theres not a steady cash flow. We cant solve our debt problem if people arent going to give the government cash, and we cant solve our poverty problem if the government is going to keep raising the ******** taxes ( as if thats the answer to every damn debt problem they have ) For those of you that lack the want to read all that, I'll sum up everything I said, We arent going to solve our debt problem. There is no way. From the imbalance of partys in the big houses, to the lack of knowlage of the people with their money. We need to completely get rid of the modern idiocracy and go back to level 1. If we dont want to that, I have a new plan. Legalize drugs, Limit migration into the US, Stop hiring poor ******** to do out work in other countries, and keep religion out of the damn government. cheers the statement above is smarter than our polititions. amen to that! lol
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