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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:58 pm
I hate how the world is. I was saw a hobo on the street. I was saying hi to everyone and people would just walk past him completley ignoring him. So what if he is a hobo? You don't know him, you don't know his life. I know you shouldn't talk to strangers like this but I just can't help it. He was like "hi" before I walked past him. And when I was closer to him he said "have a nice day". He was expecting me to ignore. I mean it felt like this isn't the hobo that would kidnap and rape me. I said "you too" back at him. Didn't see his expression and I but I could've made his day.
Makes me wonder, why is money created? Without money, people could just share, be one big happy world. No stealing, killing each other for money, no more not having enough food, clothes, no shelter. I mean it's just stupid. Why does the emotion depressed, jealousy, mad, upset exist. Why can't everyone just be happy? Why are there so many flaws in this world?
It's just ... sad ...
So I was wondering, what do you guys think?
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:05 pm
I say I agree with you 100% this world is a bad place. We should just share everything. This is a very deep thing to think about.
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:09 pm
People want to see change in the world. It is unfortunate that the change they so desperately want they hope someone else can provide it.
Sometimes we must take action. Even if its something as small and insignificant as a simple smile and hello. It is amazing how sometimes that alone can do wonders, even if in the life of just one person. And if we all take a little extra time out of our lives to be a little kinder to those around us. Even if we only add a little to the pot, it can help in making the world a much better place.
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:56 pm
I've wondered why money was created several years ago... I still wonder now-a-days.
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:03 pm
If you hate the world so much then do something to change it.
Money isn't the problem, people's perspectives are. As long as everyone hates the world and feels like they have to fight for everything things aren't going to change.
The world is a wonderful and beautiful place if you just give it a chance.
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:06 pm
You work for what you've got. 'If you don't work, you don't eat,' as they always say. Sorry to seem heartless or, y'know, realistic, but I'm willing to bet that 'hobo' has plenty of opportunity to make something of himself instead of sitting out on the street begging for chump change and digging for scraps. What's stopping him from renting a mailbox, getting some nice clothes from the Goodwill, and finding a way to get a shave and a haircut? Unless he's totally disabled, he should have no excuse as to why he isn't doing everything he can. Hell, they've got organizations to which people like that can turn, but some are just too pig-headed and prideful to accept the help. If that's the case, then more power to 'em. If they want to eat out of dumpsters for the rest of their lives, that's their right.
Also, all that tree-hugger nonsense about sharing everything and not having currency or a system built on making yourself who you are? Yeah, that type of Communist thinking never got anybody anywhere, and history is a testament of that fact. I see no reason why I, as a hard-working American, should have to share what I've earned with some lazy b*****d down the street who can't get off his fat a** and work for a living like the rest of us. We bust our a** for what we have, and yet we're the bad guys? We're the ones who are 'more fortunate' than them and therefore need to give up what we earned through hard work just so that they can feel better about themselves? Sorry sweetheart, but as much as I may hate Capitalism, I most dearly detest Communism just the same. Everybody makes themselves who they are, and I'm not about to give what I've worked for to someone else unless I so decide.
Now that that's off my chest, I can't say I wouldn't personally give folks like that a hand if I were able. At the least giving them a nice set of clothes, a shower, a good grooming, and a mailbox, and set them up with the right forms to ship 'em off back to school so they can learn a trade and find a decent-paying job, and actually contribute to society instead of draining it.
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:56 pm
@ethereal: have you ever wondered why money was created? what is it for? if everyone just enjoy learning what they want to, make/teach everyone for free, without money ever existing, there won't be this problem of you giving away your hard-assed earn money. In fact, you might even be relaxing right now.
Society is changing guys. Now when you go get a job, what's the most important? No, the bosses don't look at if your hard working or not. Nowadays, people look at how you look like, how high your education is. Nowadays people are STARVING themselves to look good, give a better impression to their boss, find a boyfriend. People on the other side of the world? are STARVING because they can't find enough food, and it's hard to get a freaking education.
Hey look, because of education many people are working their a** off. They probably spend 6 hrs? just studying, barely get enough sleep and go to school. That's what it takes to get a JOB? for some people. Some people even get a mental illness from focusing on education too much. Not everyone is capable. Do you get what I'm saying?
Sorry about that, just felt like I need to say something for you to understand what I'm trying to get at here.
ps: i think i put this in the wrong place.. sweatdrop
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:13 pm
I agree. Money seems to just make things worse. But without money, the world will just revert back to trading and bartering, which will make common objects into something of value, like money. What really is the problem is the negative personality traits that cause the evil that is connected to money. I don't think the world was ever really a sharing-and-caring place. What's worse is that people are giving everything a price. I think some things need a set value that won't ever exceed that value, but other things don't need to cost anything. For some reason, a better education requires money. Why? Because teachers need a salary. Why? Because they need to pay for food, clothes, and shelter. We need jobs to pay for the education, in addition to food, clothes, and shelter. Basically, pay for an education so that we can get a good job so that we can earn money to pay for the essentials and -in turn- pay for the education. It's all just one big circle, and the way society has been working for hundreds of years, there doesn't seem to be a way out.
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 12:18 am
Ethereal Cereal You work for what you've got. 'If you don't work, you don't eat,' as they always say. Sorry to seem heartless or, y'know, realistic, but I'm willing to bet that 'hobo' has plenty of opportunity to make something of himself instead of sitting out on the street begging for chump change and digging for scraps. What's stopping him from renting a mailbox, getting some nice clothes from the Goodwill, and finding a way to get a shave and a haircut? Unless he's totally disabled, he should have no excuse as to why he isn't doing everything he can. Hell, they've got organizations to which people like that can turn, but some are just too pig-headed and prideful to accept the help. If that's the case, then more power to 'em. If they want to eat out of dumpsters for the rest of their lives, that's their right. Also, all that tree-hugger nonsense about sharing everything and not having currency or a system built on making yourself who you are? Yeah, that type of Communist thinking never got anybody anywhere, and history is a testament of that fact. I see no reason why I, as a hard-working American, should have to share what I've earned with some lazy b*****d down the street who can't get off his fat a** and work for a living like the rest of us. We bust our a** for what we have, and yet we're the bad guys? We're the ones who are 'more fortunate' than them and therefore need to give up what we earned through hard work just so that they can feel better about themselves? Sorry sweetheart, but as much as I may hate Capitalism, I most dearly detest Communism just the same. Everybody makes themselves who they are, and I'm not about to give what I've worked for to someone else unless I so decide. Now that that's off my chest, I can't say I wouldn't personally give folks like that a hand if I were able. At the least giving them a nice set of clothes, a shower, a good grooming, and a mailbox, and set them up with the right forms to ship 'em off back to school so they can learn a trade and find a decent-paying job, and actually contribute to society instead of draining it. { Ьroken ◇ jαndeяs }
[ I was trying to figure out what that idea resembled... Communism. Thanks :3 ]
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 1:12 am
The best way I can put this is simply. . . naive. It would be wonderful if everyone could actually just share everything and support each other when they have troubles, but only when they do so by CHOICE. (Which I think is what you mean?) However, the problem is not that everyone must learn to be nice to one another, the problem is that it is impossible to make every single person kind and willing to self-sacrifice for others. There are communist nations originally founded because it is a genuinely beautiful and wonderful idea; however it always, without fail, leads to disaster. The sad fact is that there will always be people who want more than what others have and are willing to go to any lengths to get it. Most people are inherently selfish, some more than others, but we learn to give of our selves as we grow and learn right from wrong. Money does nothing. People do not kill for money, they don't beg for money, they don't even desire money. They do not hunger for money and they do not thirst for money. What people want, desire, and fight for is the power which money gives. 'Money' is nothing more than paper or a few metals of little value. We are the ones who give it value, choosing to use currency as the 'middle man'. Rather than trading a gallon of goats milk for a new shirt*, a person can trade their milk for money and use that to go and buy the shirt** (or anything else if they change their mind about wanting the shirt but still didn't need the goats milk). Even before people used currency, they still did bad things and caused others harm because it would benefit them, even if for no other reason than causing that harm makes them happy. * Which may involve several other trades because the tailor who made the shirt doesn't want milk. Such as: milk traded for fruit, fruit traded for nice cloth, nice cloth traded for new shirt. (all of which would be complex transactions)
** Which only involves two very neat and simple trades: Milk for money, money for shirt.
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 1:21 am
Also, would it be correct in thinking that your basic question is, "Why can't everyone just be perfect and selfless to better everyone's lives as a collective whole?"
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 1:48 am
Sink your teeth into forever...I agree... I didn't realize until now, but I totally agree...
Especially since my family is having a huge crisis with money... = . =" Even though my dad works harder than most of the people in his business, his bosses won't promote him or give him a raise... He practically does other people's work too! and the people who work less are getting promoted.. stare then guess who he takes it out on? Yep... me and the rest of my family... -.- I swear, if money wasn't ever created, my family would be a whole lot closer.. but since money is a huge issue, it's actually falling apart.... Dx!!
Anyway, I agree.. xP ...Sunlight burns, children surrender.
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:47 am
i think we can choose to dwell on all the negativity in the world and let it bring us down OR we choose NOT to fill our time bombarding ourselves with it through media, magazines and so forth. 
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:00 am
Like I said before, unbreakable circle. What I really meant was that without money, the world as we know it -both the good and the bad- wouldn't exist. Money sort of simplifies things...in a way. Looking back on the days of trading objects for other objects, the value of certain objects depend on how one interprets their values, making things very complicated. Yes, it would be wonderful if money didn't cause so many issues, but the world can't work without some form of currency.
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:03 am
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