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 Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 9:02 am
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Exxos Sammirah Exxos I am starting to think that any gaian who has been a member longer than 5 years and is active every day of the week of a RIG unveiling, should get one free RIG. The catch would be that the RIG itself would be soulbound permanently and the item within would be soulbound for 6 months after the unveiling date. I think it would go a long way towards maybe repairing the gaia economy by creating an artificial offset period that would, in turn, allow for the usual practices/purchasing we know, but collapse part of the post market that creates essentially unattainably-priced items that are just relisted by the same people over and over and rising prices, but never selling. That's a cool idea, actually. I feel like the 6 month soulbound period would prevent people (ie. those with multiple accounts older than five years, like myself) from taking advantage of it, as well. Do you think newer users would complain though? They would, mostly because the complain about everything, heh. But they would get their shot in 5 years of membership too. The idea with 5 years is not just a site loyalty aspect, but that that should be just enough time to match the growth of the site. That way, the proportion of offset stays fairly even and you don't get a flood that would break the economy in the other direction and cause a shock deflation. And because long term members are just as likely to keep items as sell them months down the road, it would make speculating almost impossibly complicated, so I think that it would do next to nothing to gaia's bottom line aside from a small increase in income from the prices being nuanced into the purchasable range more readily – i.e.; when that 10,000,000 gold item that's gone unsold for two years is brought down to an attainable 2,000,000, people are more likely to buy cash to get gold to get that item.
Some kind of site loyalty benefit would be great, I mean aside from those key things we got awhile back. What were those even for? Weren't they an alchemy thing?
Instead Gaia seems to more want to reward users who buy more cash. :S |
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Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 9:05 am
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Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 10:08 am
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Sammirah humble_gypsy_traveller Exxos So what does everyone think of this event? 10k for a crappy hat and maybe another prize later worth it? I don't get it...what's all the donating for? I mean, they have Club Verge, ,they get oh, I don't know how much gaia cash purchases per month...I mean...in marketing means...Gaia staff are just going about it all wrong! Personally, I haven't bothered with the past few holiday events b/c it's been about gaia users giving more then they've already been giving in purchases. Is Gaiaonline that lagging in interest that they have to stoop to "begging" events? Well, the admins obviously don't need gold, since they basically can just create it. I thought this was another gold sink, to try and curb inflation. But I also thought it was generally accepted that gold sinks don't work. sweatdrop
That's what's got me scratching my head as well. I mean...yeah...they don't need the gold...so maybe yeah...maybe they're trying to even the scales?
Could it be because some stupid people are trying to make millions on 4 or 5 pose items? I was doing some shopping for upcoming contest ideas...and you WoULDN'T believe (or maybe you would) how rediculously high priced some of the new rig items are! I bought a few background items that are like 300k a piece! |
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Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:09 pm
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humble_gypsy_traveller Exxos So what does everyone think of this event? 10k for a crappy hat and maybe another prize later worth it? I don't get it...what's all the donating for? I mean, they have Club Verge, ,they get oh, I don't know how much gaia cash purchases per month...I mean...in marketing means...Gaia staff are just going about it all wrong! Personally, I haven't bothered with the past few holiday events b/c it's been about gaia users giving more then they've already been giving in purchases. Is Gaiaonline that lagging in interest that they have to stoop to "begging" events?
I think the idea with gold-sink events is to pull gold out of the economy because they think it will lower prices and get the economy functional again. That the more goes in, the less things cost, and the more people get involved.
Or, in other words, yes, they are begging retards. |
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Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:12 pm
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Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:14 pm
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humble_gypsy_traveller Sammirah humble_gypsy_traveller Exxos So what does everyone think of this event? 10k for a crappy hat and maybe another prize later worth it? I don't get it...what's all the donating for? I mean, they have Club Verge, ,they get oh, I don't know how much gaia cash purchases per month...I mean...in marketing means...Gaia staff are just going about it all wrong! Personally, I haven't bothered with the past few holiday events b/c it's been about gaia users giving more then they've already been giving in purchases. Is Gaiaonline that lagging in interest that they have to stoop to "begging" events? Well, the admins obviously don't need gold, since they basically can just create it. I thought this was another gold sink, to try and curb inflation. But I also thought it was generally accepted that gold sinks don't work. sweatdrop That's what's got me scratching my head as well. I mean...yeah...they don't need the gold...so maybe yeah...maybe they're trying to even the scales? Could it be because some stupid people are trying to make millions on 4 or 5 pose items? I was doing some shopping for upcoming contest ideas...and you WoULDN'T believe (or maybe you would) how rediculously high priced some of the new rig items are! I bought a few background items that are like 300k a piece!
Yeah, and what Exxos said. They're trying to pull gold out of the economy, because by participating in these "gold sinks" we're basically deleting our gold. I guess it kind of makes sense, but all I ever hear from other users is that gold sinks never seem to have the desired effect. Or at least, not enough of one. |
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Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:31 am
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Sammirah humble_gypsy_traveller Sammirah humble_gypsy_traveller Exxos So what does everyone think of this event? 10k for a crappy hat and maybe another prize later worth it? I don't get it...what's all the donating for? I mean, they have Club Verge, ,they get oh, I don't know how much gaia cash purchases per month...I mean...in marketing means...Gaia staff are just going about it all wrong! Personally, I haven't bothered with the past few holiday events b/c it's been about gaia users giving more then they've already been giving in purchases. Is Gaiaonline that lagging in interest that they have to stoop to "begging" events? Well, the admins obviously don't need gold, since they basically can just create it. I thought this was another gold sink, to try and curb inflation. But I also thought it was generally accepted that gold sinks don't work. sweatdrop That's what's got me scratching my head as well. I mean...yeah...they don't need the gold...so maybe yeah...maybe they're trying to even the scales? Could it be because some stupid people are trying to make millions on 4 or 5 pose items? I was doing some shopping for upcoming contest ideas...and you WoULDN'T believe (or maybe you would) how rediculously high priced some of the new rig items are! I bought a few background items that are like 300k a piece! Yeah, and what Exxos said. They're trying to pull gold out of the economy, because by participating in these "gold sinks" we're basically deleting our gold. I guess it kind of makes sense, but all I ever hear from other users is that gold sinks never seem to have the desired effect. Or at least, not enough of one.
I was reading Exxos' idea of having items soulbound for a couple of months...that would be great...and maybe along the lines of that...event items would get soulbound, or given the option to donate or trash them.
I couldn't believe how high priced some of the past event items are!
Thing is...if the event items you get were pretty nice...I wouldn't mind gold sink events to bring down inflation. However...are you REALLY confident that gold sink events would curb inflation? Or would the chance of scoring a not so rare item curb inflation? See, aside from EI's, CI's, animated items and the like, I wouldn't mind re-selling outfits with cheap items just as cheap, or close to the original price of the items as an outfit. |
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Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:55 pm
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Gold sinks are simply attacking a problem from the wrong side. The only expedient ways to push the economy into functioning again would be massively unpopular at first, but in the end make things better for everyone – gaia, the membership, and the rich elite. They can and do work, just not in the economy that gaia has managed to allow to happen. If we went back about 7 years ago and made the sinks smaller and more focused, they could easily modulate a +/- 15% to the economy. Now, all it does is pull gold out of the system, nothing else. No impact on the economic problems whatsoever.
I can't blame gaia for it, they think in very short term periods. They have for the last 3 years operated on a getting as much money as they can because we might shut down this month and don't plan beyond the quarter because it might go unused. Online economies are fickle and stupid, so it causes online companies to lead a precarious "take a dime now instead of the dollar later" mentality because there often is not a later.
But that also says how little gaia understands and respects their users. They put us through so much BS and we're still here. Yeah, if they did the right thing, they would lose 10% of the users, but probably get 15% new users in the process because people would not be so easily discouraged.
Right now, gaia is on the precipice of falling into the "coiner trap" where an online game or venue puts so much of its resources into retaining and milking its existing cash payers that new users drop steadily to nil and then eventually even old, loyal users get so frustrated with their needs not being met and vast areas of the site that do not meet heavy cash support wither into oblivion.
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Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:59 pm
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Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 4:43 pm
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Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 6:10 pm
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Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 12:01 am
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Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 12:02 am
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Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:05 am
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Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 7:58 pm
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