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Chieftain Twilight Captain
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 2:17 am
i am going to college in the fall, and am wondering if i should go for a Bachelor's in Creative Writing, or Law...
you see, in this capitalist society that we live in, having a job or career means pretty much being a whore. in different jobs it's to different levels, but to have a career you are pretty much yer CEO's b***h. if you wanna get paid, you can't allow your Moral Hangups to get in the way.
i am an Honourable man, and i like to uphold my Honour. hard times call for desperate measures, and i dunno what to do. it's alot harder to uphold my standards of decency as an attorney... i'd be expected to help my client win, no matter what, no matter why, no matter how. it's a very sleazy line of work. sad but it is alot more solid than relying on my literature output. iii-_- what do you think?
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:36 am
Don't sell law short. A lot of times, you can make big $$ just by advising people on what contracts to sign or what investments are dangerous. Law is a field of study as wild as the Amazon rain forest--and just as full of deadly peril.
Why not do both? Seriously, you could get into publishing law. Highly specialized, yes, but you might enjoy it more than an average law-job, and you can always go farther with the creative writing.
Everyone is a whore to their employer. Those with degrees and thus "careers" get to choose which 'brothel' they bond to, instead of whichever will take them like the rest of the minimum-wage schmucks. That's why I'm going back to school--so I can get out from under my 'pimp' and hopefully find a new one that treats me better.
I am getting my bachelor's in English Literature, and I hope to get my Master's in either education or marketing. Obviously one option is teaching, but with the marketing degree, I could become a jr. editor for a magazine or something else alone those lines. Also, because my lifelong dream is to write novels, having a BA in English Lit and a MA in Marketing doesn't hurt when petitioning publishing houses to produce your book.
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ScarletFrost Vice Captain
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Chieftain Twilight Captain
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:46 am
don't get me wrong, the thought of being a Lawyer is very attractive, i find the job fun. smile that's why i took it seriously when my stepdad suggested it instead of Creative Writing. i even watch court episodes of animes for entertainment, and get all into it, i'm a dork like that... sweatdrop redface
what i am saying is, i am aware that some of the cases i would be presented with could be unsavoury, and if i want to get paid i can't realy turn them down that easily. still, it does sound like a great job...
also, i actually feel like careers make one even MORE succeptible to society's pimping out than small jobs, but that's mainly cause i'm thinkin' of small jobs as in small private-owned businesses, and self-employment. sweatdrop i definately understand what you mean though, when you work for, say, a minor franchise (fast food anyone?).
btw, thanks for being so fast with a reply, it makes me feel happy. smile
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:52 am
Just sitting here in my underwear, drinking Kahlua (because it's the only open alcohol in the house), contemplating my own economic options... Happy to be of service!
I need to google what jobs are hot in Greece these days. Economists are saying that they're only a few years ahead of the US. What's good for them might be good for us.
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ScarletFrost Vice Captain
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Chieftain Twilight Captain
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 4:09 am
:grunts.: i want some Kahlua now! xd
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 12:45 pm
You don't need to decide so quickly. Take a bunch of courses in different areas that you're interested in. See what applies to you. Most undergrad degrees have a little wiggle room, so you can at least take a semester (or two, or three) to see what you want to major in. Then after your undergrad degree you could pursue a BD in whichever area you want.
I don't see the point of picking a major as soon as you start post sec. There's a lot to learn and not all of it has to do with being marketable. Take some time to enjoy it. You can be practical after that.
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Chieftain Twilight Captain
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 1:47 pm
well, i'm not going to a University. i'll be going to Santa Fe College, which only stopped being counted as a Community College because they offer Bachelor's Degrees now. confused so, i kinda do need to know what class i wanna major in right after i take my CPT and go through Financial Aid.
Edit: oh wait, i see what you are saying. as in, don't go for a Bachelor's yet? hmm... sad i dunno... my family doesn't have alot of money, and i was no fan of going to college once i decided the kind of life i wanted to have... if i AM gonna go, i want to start thinkin of money right away. i gotta get out of the hood and out of my folks' house!
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 1:58 pm
I get it. Same goes for me, really, but you can have an undergraduate degree and use the credits from the subjects that you focused on (or majored in) to pursue a bachelor's degree in that field. Most of the credits will be transferable to a particular program after that.
A BD is usually a 4-year degree, depending on the number of courses you take and the field you're going into. You can have some kind of undergrad degree (maybe an Associate of Arts, or another kind) in two years, and transfer those credits and use that toward your BD. I don't see it taking longer to do so like this, unless you have no idea what you're wanting to pursue, but that doesn't sound like the case. You don't need to take a year of courses to have some idea. Even a semester with some variation should give a better idea of what you're interested in.
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Chieftain Twilight Captain
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 2:15 pm
i guess... though i thought i'd only need 2-years. o.o
ugh, it's times like these i envy my friend Dallas, and the fact he has been working as an assisstant contractor to his dad since he was little. iii-_- he graduated a University with an A.A. in Mathemetics at 16! gonk i'm 20, and only just about to go into College! crying and i have to rely on other peoples' money for it....
sorry, just feeling the sting of being Lower Class. iii-_- i hate capitalism... hated it ever since ******** 9/11... i gotta learn to stop repeating it all the time, but honestly, i think it's the only thing keeping me going. ******** 9/11....
it's just that i didn't realize the seriousness of the loss of jobs until i got out of Florida. so now, i know i NEED to get a Degree to get a job.
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:12 pm
I can't see a reason to get a degree in creative writing. If you plan on writing a book or something no one is going to not read your book because you don't have a degree in writing.
Go with the law degree so you have something to fall back on if the writing thing doesn't work out.
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 5:09 pm
I know what you mean. There's so much that's different because of class. I'm not from a wealthy family but I'm lucky in that I get to go to college. I'm kinda wondering about what I'll do after I get my AA though (that's at the end of next year).
A degree is necessary for a person like me. Without education I wouldn't be able to survive on my own.
Keep in mind that only so much is determined by what you study though. Education is an asset to everyone but it isn't always geared toward exactly what people think. There is a lot you can do. Right now I'm thinking I'll go into social work. I was thinking about getting a degree in psychology, but a BD in psych isn't particularly useful -- I'd have to get a Master's. So I might do that after I've finished a BD in a different field -- social work I'm thinking, or maybe education (I'm taking lots of psych as it is, so to switch over to that field after a bachelor's makes sense).
There's a lot to think about though. But I don't think anyone should rush right into a major. I think a lot of people are disappointed and less likely to graduate when they do that.
Also, you're hardly old to be starting. What's really cool about post sec is that the age groups are so varied. I'm 19 and a few friends of mine are in their 40s, 30s, later 20s. You shouldn't worry about that too much. It seems overwhelming now but I think once you start you'll enjoy it. You're obviously into learning, and there's a lot of that to do. I think 4 years sounds a lot longer than it is.
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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 3:35 am
:sighs.: iii-_- i know i should probably chill, being only 20 and all... but still... i have this serious feeling of urgency, this constant restlessness, this need to satisfy person goals and feelings....
maybe it's just me being young and feisty, but what if it realy is intuition telling me that if i wanna get things going right i have to act fast? right now?
alot of folks would want to contain me and convince me to slow down when they hear this, but... i want kids. i want to be a dad so badly. it is like the most important thing to me. i want to be out of my folks' house, with a Spouse or Consort, and a kid or two, while 'm still in my early- to mid-twenties.
... it's embarressing to admit, that i still have these juvanile ideas of what i want to do... it's the kind of goals you'd expect of a pubescent kid. but.... i realy have been thinking it's got something more to do with my own fatherhood issues.... iii-_- it's a long story, and i can't even tell all of it... so it's no use explaining any of it.
also, don't think i'm trying to sound hard or gangster or anything, but... having the tribal experiences i have of gang-life and street politics has it's toll too. i simply can't relate with the rest of my family, cause my siblings are all sheltered, and my folks wouldn't believe my credibility no matter what i said. sides the fact that even if they did believe me they'd freak. mom still doesn't tottaly get it, but she was certainly in tears at the news that her baby boy is afraid to go to the Gay Club or ride the number 6 bus because of the Bloods.
they don't get it. my sister yells at me (and even others of her friends who i get along with) because she can't understand why we act emotionally the way we do. and she doesn't want to hear our explanations, she wants to know if we have excuses or not and what they are. we dont have those. and as soon as we say that, she just doesn't want to let us have a word in edgewise, cause in her mind explanations ARE excuses. there's no other kind. she doesn't get what PTSD is, and gods forbid she ever hears me say i've been shot at.
so i have to get a place of my own. there's nothin' but conflict at home. i can't stand it!
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Chieftain Twilight Captain
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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 11:20 am
I actually really do get what you mean. As soon as I finished high school and started working I knew that I need to go to school. I actually love it in this area (I'm away from a city, on a little bitty island -- I'm not from a wealthy family but I am very lucky in this respect) but at the same time I'm a very different sort of person and my family can drive me a bit batty. You should definitely put off kids until you're stable (and can I recommend adopting? Just a thought -- there are just so many people and it seems that many don't have or parents). I want a kid too though. I want to adopt and be a single mom, or go live with my proverbial sister or something. I'd love that.
Nooo, ideals are fine. There's no embarrassment there. What I want to do is grow all my own food, collect rainwater, have solar energy and just be totally off the grid. I want the materials for building the house to be found. No consumerism, no obligations to larger society. I want to teach dance and be a counselor. I want to be in a position where I don't need money. My sister is a horticulturalist, we both study plants and she's very good at growing them. It all sounds terribly idealist but there's a way to make these things happen. It just takes planning.
Yes... for sure. I have a bit of that too. I've never been shot at but there are different things. I've been lucky enough to be able to get away from some of it, but still. My experiences are totally different from so many. My brother I dislike a lot of the time. He'd rather think of me as his brother, which, on its own means he doesn't understand my life. He's kind of terribly insensitive and critical. He's not very sensitive; he doesn't get things and he criticizes people for things he doesn't understand. My mom I do love, but she doesn't always get things and I'm not usually very forthcoming, and of course with parents there is a bit that goes unsaid anyways. It isn't all conflict for me but that can change easily enough. My brother's an absolute b***h. My mom I usually get along with but we have random disagreements that aren't necessarily personal but... I don't know. It's just weird and often very uncomfortable.
Well hasn't this turned into a different conversation?
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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 11:32 am
You could be an English teacher if you really like English. I believe it takes 5 years to do that, unless you want to be a college professor.
After you take 12 units toward your teaching degree you're qualified to be a teacher's assistant. Also, it only takes 2 years to be a preschool teacher. So you could be an assistant or a preschool teacher while you work on the rest of your degree.
(This is in CA, I don't know what state you live in. The requirements might be a little different.)
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Chieftain Twilight Captain
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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:40 pm
heh... yeh, i would love to adopt, as long as i have at least one kid of my own DNA. but according to the state i am not fit to be a parent. sad i'd need to be married to even stand a chance a that. :shrugs.: i don't wanna pout, or talk too much about personal stuff, but... there's kind of some problems with that.... iii-_- meh.
heh. xd you and i have very similar ideals for how we wanna live, ah Fig? i tell ya, if i ever get the chance, i'm gonna look for an uninhabited island in the Carribean. i don't expect there to be one, but... can look. i can dream...
as for it being a different conversation... i wouldn't say so, not realy. it's a little digressed, i suppose... but realy, while it isn't to he point anymore, it's still the stuff that isat the root of the point. these are the things that effect my decisions in the first place.
@ Elegance: i dunno if you were referring to me, or to Figuren, but... i would hate to have an office job of any kind, or a ... :shudders: ugh, career.... xp i just wanna be able to work from the home. i live in Florida, but... i dunno if that'll last.
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