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TheDisreputableDog Gingerbread . Coffin There's of course, Christian Pagans. "Christian Pagans" strikes me as kind of an oxymoron. Is it? (I don't mean someone who has respect for his upbringing and his family's religion, or someone who is forced to go to church until she can get out of the house and hates it.) TeaDidikai That pretty much places people like Tsuzuki clearly out of Paganism I wonder, does Tsuzuki consider himself pagan? Chaos Magic doesn't seem to really...I mean, saying you're a Christian Chaos Mage is like saying you're a Christian accountant, almost, right? Or is he hermetic? confused Gosh. I need to take a break and look more of this stuff up; also remember better what people are. Apologies. sweatdrop I'm not myself this week.
Orion-Blacknuckle So far, none of these definitions really seem to help define the word 'Pagan' at all. Paganism is such a wide-spread and diverse belief that it can't be pinned down so easily. Is it just someone who believes in magic? Probably not, because I'm sure there are Jews, Christians, Hindus, etc. who believe in that sort of thing. Then what exactly? I myself choose to believe in what feels right to me. I can't say I've studied most of the topics all of you are speaking about, but what I can say is that most of the lists I've read include dozens of other religions and faiths. What about the various faiths that came about from the Native American cultures and tribes, or the aborriginal people in Australia, or even those in Africa? Do we call them Pagan too? By Christian term, Paganism is just about anything BUT Christianity. On that account, I might be a bit foggy. Feel free to yell at my ignorance, supply me with corrections, or do anything else that you see fit to stop this FB from going on any further.
I would ask "Why does Pagan cover such a vast spectrum?" The answer in my book is pretty simple. The word was used by one group to speak about everyone else.
Yeah- it means that should people want to know more about you, they have to ask more questions. Big deal. I find that better than trying to come up for an accurate term that includes all Recon Faiths, all Polytheistic Modern Religions, etc... while excluding those we personally do not agree with. |
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:51 pm
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:00 pm
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 6:41 pm
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:53 pm
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:39 pm
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:54 pm
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 5:12 pm
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Tsuzuki TeaDidikai Tsuzuki Let it be known that for the duration of this semester I am officially a pagan on Wednesdays from 1:00 pm to 2:00 pm and Fridays from 3:00 pm to 4:00 pm pacific time. (That's when my college club meets.) See kiddies! The Pagan agenda to use any means needed to corrupt the innocent Christians is working! Or it could be the other way around. It's not every pagan club that has a self-declared Christian as their official librarian. ninja |
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 5:58 pm
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 6:02 pm
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TeaDidikai Tsuzuki TeaDidikai Tsuzuki Let it be known that for the duration of this semester I am officially a pagan on Wednesdays from 1:00 pm to 2:00 pm and Fridays from 3:00 pm to 4:00 pm pacific time. (That's when my college club meets.) See kiddies! The Pagan agenda to use any means needed to corrupt the innocent Christians is working! Or it could be the other way around. It's not every pagan club that has a self-declared Christian as their official librarian. ninja Shhhh! Stop it. I really want to put Rowling in her place damn it!
& what does that mean? J.K.Rowling is a writer. she's writes 1 fantasy series & ppl have to ridicule her as being a fraud or what have u? it's like hell if ur gonna go after her u might as well go after J.R.R. Tolkien for his novels. & for every other writer that writes fantasy. let them be & leave then out of discussions in that way. they don't deserve to be ridiculed for writing fansiful stories for entertainment. |
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 6:23 pm
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 11:47 pm
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wicked_faery i think the deffinition of pagan is fine...there will never be a perfect deffinition because there's no perfect deffinition of the belief. there are too many kinds of pagans to have 1 deffinition that works perfectly for any of them.
wicked_faery TeaDidikai Tsuzuki TeaDidikai Tsuzuki Let it be known that for the duration of this semester I am officially a pagan on Wednesdays from 1:00 pm to 2:00 pm and Fridays from 3:00 pm to 4:00 pm pacific time. (That's when my college club meets.) See kiddies! The Pagan agenda to use any means needed to corrupt the innocent Christians is working! Or it could be the other way around. It's not every pagan club that has a self-declared Christian as their official librarian. ninja Shhhh! Stop it. I really want to put Rowling in her place damn it! & what does that mean? J.K.Rowling is a writer. she's writes 1 fantasy series & ppl have to ridicule her as being a fraud or what have u? it's like hell if ur gonna go after her u might as well go after J.R.R. Tolkien for his novels. & for every other writer that writes fantasy. let them be & leave then out of discussions in that way. they don't deserve to be ridiculed for writing fansiful stories for entertainment.
Orion-Blacknuckle W_F, I believe that they were kidding.. |
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:50 pm
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 9:48 pm
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Tsuzuki TeaDidikai wicked_faery i think the deffinition of pagan is fine...there will never be a perfect deffinition because there's no perfect deffinition of the belief. there are too many kinds of pagans to have 1 deffinition that works perfectly for any of them. Actually, as an exclusive over an inclusive term, I think Pagan has a very good defintion. Except that it excludes me. pirate except on Wednesdays from 1:00 pm to 2:00 pm and Fridays from 3:00 pm to 4:00 pm pacific time |
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