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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:43 pm
Link Here-------------------- On Friday the government’s war on marijuana consumers claimed yet another victim. In Las Vegas, Nevada, metro police shot and killed a 21-year-old father-to-be while serving a search warrant for marijuana. Phil Smith at StoptheDrugWar.org has detailed coverage here. A 21-year-old father-to-be was killed last Friday night by a Las Vegas Police Department narcotics officer serving a search warrant for marijuana. Trevon Cole was shot once in the bathroom of his apartment after he made what police described as “a furtive movement.”Police have said Cole was not armed. Police said Monday they recovered an unspecified amount of marijuana and a set of digital scales. A person identifying herself as Cole’s fiancée, Sequoia Pearce, in the comments section in the article linked to above said no drugs were found. Pearce, who is nine months pregnant, shared the apartment with Cole and was present during the raid. “I was coming out, and they told me to get on the floor. I heard a gunshot and was trying to see what was happening and where they had shot him,” Pearce told KTNV-TV. According to police, they arrived at about 9 p.m. Friday evening at the Mirabella Apartments on East Bonanza Road, and detectives knocked and announced their presence. Receiving no response, detectives knocked the door down and entered the apartment. They found Pearce hiding in a bedroom closet and took her into custody. They then tried to enter a bathroom where Cole was hiding. He made “a furtive movement” toward a detective, who fired a single shot, killing Cole.… According to Pearce and family members, Cole had no criminal record, had achieved an Associate of Arts degree, and was working as an insurance adjustor while working on a political science degree at the University of Nevada-Las Vegas. He was not a drug dealer, Pearce said.“Trevon was a recreational smoker. He smoked weed, marijuana. That’s what he did,” she told KTNV-TV. “They didn’t have to kill him. We were supposed to get married next year, plan a black and white affair,” she said. “He was all I ever knew, we were gonna make it.”In May, NORML blogged about another sickening case — that one from Columbia, Missouri (you can watch the disturbing and graphic video here) — of ‘cops gone wild’ in the war on weed. But the similarities between the two cases go beyond narcotics officers breaking down the doors of private residences and discharging their weapons. In both instances, these tragic raids took place in regions of the country that have ‘decriminalized’ marijuana possession. That’s right. In Nevada, lawmakers in 2001 enacted statewide legislation defelonizing minor marijuana possession — making the offense a fine-only misdemeanor. (Separately, Nevada voters in 2000 decided to amend the state’s constitution to exempt medical users from arrest.) And in 2004, some 60 percent of Columbia, Missouri voters approved a local ordinance that sought to prohibit local cops from from arresting anyone for simple marijuana possession. Yet, as the above tragedies illustrate, neither of these ‘half-a-loaf’ changes in law (decriminalization and medicalization) ultimately corrects the core problem and that is this: Police and politicians still accept the premise that this level of deadly force is appropriate to keep people from using marijuana. That is why, while on the one hand NORML (obviously) supports cannabis medicalization and decriminalization efforts, we also recognize that these efforts fall woefully short for many Americans. After all, police in Las Vegas, Columbia, and elsewhere are not forcefully entering private homes and terrorizing families while executing search warrants for alcohol. But they are engaging in such behavior in communities that have medicalized and/or decriminalized marijuana. And unfortunately, they will continue to do so. In short, the only way to fully protect all our citizens from these kinds of abhorrent events is through the legalization and regulation of marijuana for all adults. Decriminalization and medicalization are first steps — not the end game. Ultimately only legalization and regulation can bring a long overdue end to the brutal war on marijuana consumers. ----------------------------------- My Thoughts: (P.S) I bolded and under lined the very important, specific details This is going to sound Korney, but I came close to shedding a tear. Another couple's life, ruined! Because of a Over hyped substance!! I want to see Justice! I want to see that officer be fired! Seriously, the guy was unarmed, so how would he have done serious harm, when surrounded by multiple guys with guns, batons and other weapons!? I know this stuff is common, but it's just so infuriating, there has to be a better way! We keep saying, Legalization! And they just keep on proudly busting down places and actually ruin people's lives. ---------------------------------------------------------- Videos for MarijuanaMarijuana Has No Lethal Dose! Douglas Hiatt: I-1086 Legalize Marijuana WashingtonPurdue NORML - Marijuana vs AlcoholWeed And DrivingLegalizing Marijuana: Costs vs Benefits Dopamine Reference video100 million Americans say yes to marijuanaDrug Nation - CNN Takes A Look At Legalizing MarijuanaMother says Marijuana saved her sons life. Legalize 2010Marijuana Helps Grow Brain CellsMarijuana Helps Protect Brain CellsCNBC SAYS - MARIJUANA = LARGEST CASH CROP IN CAFBI Doesn't know what they are talking about95% Want Marijuana Legalized-CNN Poll!Why it should be legalized, Expert's viewWhy is Marijuana IllegalFormer Fed Tells CNN Why Marijuana Must Be Legalized!Joe Rogan on Hemp, Marijuana and DMTThe Truth About Marijuana: When a Good Plant Got a Bad NameMarijuana is EXTREMELY dangerous!Our Marijuana Laws Destroy Lives The Rachel Hoffman Tragedy (MPP-TV)Our Founding Fathers Smoked MarijuanaVideos against MarijuanaWhy the Government Says Marijuana Kills Brain Cells...Its all BSFOX News says Marijuana is dangerous! (Everyone knows, the media is ALWAYS RIGHT...Sarcasm) Marijuana Debatesformer drug czar gets nailed in marijuana debateBill O'Reilly on Marijuana / It's Just a PlantGlenn Beck Legalize Marijuana & Stop The Violence------------------------------------------- To make Marijuana illegal just because it has the potential to cause cancer is not valid enough. Cause if so, we would then need to make Alcohol, Tobacco and junk food illegal. Tobacco is confirmed to cause cancer, Alcohol I believe may cause Liver Cancer and Kidney Stones. Nikolita I've never once heard that junk food causes stomach cancer. Citations please? 3nodding Here is oneHere is number 2Here is number 3Here is number 4Here is number 5Effects of Fast Food on ChildrenJunk Food and Colon CancerEating junk food 'can cause depression'
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:19 pm
No offense, but while it is regrettable that that man died in such a bad way, you should really spend more time looking up what the bastards bringing that s**t into this country are doing to people. stare
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:46 pm
Asher2501 No offense, but while it is regrettable that that man died in such a bad way, you should really spend more time looking up what the bastards bringing that s**t into this country are doing to people. stare It says in the article that he wasn't a drug dealer though, he was a recreational smoker, that is what most people are in this country. So it's not him who is contributing to bringing the Herb into the country, except maybe purchasing along with the other 100 million or more Americans who do it. Reason I call it a Herb is cause drugs are artificially made or natural things modified and Marijuana that is usually sold is unmodified and in it's natural state, just dried up. I live in Arizona and these Cartels are running a muck and selling their Marjuana at a high price is what is fueling their groups, America is fueling their groups and the only way to fix this is to someone how obliterated Marijuana from Earth(Which is impossible) or Legalize, regulate and tax it. Bring the cost of it down and make the Americans want to purchase it from stores and organizations that don't come out and commit crimes. Did you hear about how my state(Arizona) is under the control in certain areas by the Cartels? Where they can safely and securely sell Marijuana and drugs. Our own country created this mess and we sure as hell can fix this to prevent future stories like this one.
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:54 pm
So his fiance is claiming that they're good people and not drug dealers yet they both hid when police knocked on the door? That doesn't exactly add up, does it? If you don't think you are doing anything wrong, you don't hide from the police.
Not to mention that decent people don't do drugs while expecting a baby. If you want to put that in your body, that's your business. But unborn babies didn't sign up for that, and marijuana use in pregnancy (even just being around second- or third-hand smoke) may cause several health issues.
So I'm sorry, but her story doesn't even remotely make sense. And even if it did, it still wouldn't make them look like a decent couple. So I'm siding with the police on this one.
I'm voting "Disgusted" in the poll because that couple disgusts me immensely.
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:46 pm
LorienLlewellyn So his fiance is claiming that they're good people and not drug dealers yet they both hid when police knocked on the door? That doesn't exactly add up, does it? If you don't think you are doing anything wrong, you don't hide from the police. Not to mention that decent people don't do drugs while expecting a baby. If you want to put that in your body, that's your business. But unborn babies didn't sign up for that, and marijuana use in pregnancy (even just being around second- or third-hand smoke) may cause several health issues. So I'm sorry, but her story doesn't even remotely make sense. And even if it did, it still wouldn't make them look like a decent couple. So I'm siding with the police on this one. I'm voting "Disgusted" in the poll because that couple disgusts me immensely. Who said she is doing Marijuana?. Who said he was even smoking anywhere near the mother while she is pregnant? It was the husband's gig not hers. And when the Police barge in with guns, yelling and screaming, your going to panic and hide, especially if you have a illegal substance that SHOULDN'T even be illegal. You know why Marijuana is the #1 use substance, cause it's the most effective way to relieve pains without the risk of getting nasty side effects from man made stuff. About her story not making sense, can you point them out for me please?
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:48 pm
I would be more inclined to say the overzealousness on the police's part is more to blame for the guy being shot than pot. Yeah the laws chould be changed, but pot didn't get the guy shot - a police officer being trigger happy got him shot.
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:43 pm
Nikolita I would be more inclined to say the overzealousness on the police's part is more to blame for the guy being shot than pot. Yeah the laws chould be changed, but pot didn't get the guy shot - a police officer being trigger happy got him shot. When someone rushes you even when you're holding a gun it can be just as much from being scared as being "trigger happy" that leads to the gun gong off. If someone rushes me and I don't know what they're going to do then I'm sure as hell not going to wait until it's too late to find out. I swear I was holding my tongue until now, but as former Navy in anti-drug operations and someone forced to do security details myself I take extreme offense to the cops immediately being made out to be the big bad when the man clearly shouldn't have had the substance to begin with.
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:05 pm
While they shouldn't have had it in their possession in the first place, the cop could have always not aimed to kill. There are other ways of subduing a suspect besides shoot to kill. I can understand the quick reaction of a movement can make one think there is a weapon or other means of harm, but a knee cap would have sufficed, I'm sure.
Some cops ARE trigger happy while some based on the situation are quick to act in a manner to defend.
Did that guy and his fiancee deserve to be punished? Hell yes. Its illegal, get over it. Its not going to be made legal because the government can't tax it because it grows naturally in America. Did the guy deserve to be shot and killed? No, he didn't but he did have the substance in his possession.
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:10 pm
Preston Trelsly While they shouldn't have had it in their possession in the first place, the cop could have always not aimed to kill. There are other ways of subduing a suspect besides shoot to kill. I can understand the quick reaction of a movement can make one think there is a weapon or other means of harm, but a knee cap would have sufficed, I'm sure. Some cops ARE trigger happy while some based on the situation are quick to act in a manner to defend. Did that guy and his fiancee deserve to be punished? Hell yes. Its illegal, get over it. Its not going to be made legal because the government can't tax it because it grows naturally in America. Did the guy deserve to be shot and killed? No, he didn't but he did have the substance in his possession. I think the government can tax it, they are just too lazy to try. Just like the government is too lazy to figure out something with our Border's violence, just like they are too lazy to figure out the oil spill thing till it's way to late. They waited like two months before they even considered using that Kevin guy's machine to filter the oil out from the water. We use to live in a country of the free. And yet we seem to lose more rights, than gain. I love being a skeptic of our government and I love being a skeptic about our police. It keeps them in line, keeps them on their toes and attempts to keep them focused only when enough people become skeptical about what they think is right and what SHOULD be right.
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:44 pm
Preston Trelsly While they shouldn't have had it in their possession in the first place, the cop could have always not aimed to kill. There are other ways of subduing a suspect besides shoot to kill. I can understand the quick reaction of a movement can make one think there is a weapon or other means of harm, but a knee cap would have sufficed, I'm sure. Some cops ARE trigger happy while some based on the situation are quick to act in a manner to defend. Did that guy and his fiancee deserve to be punished? Hell yes. Its illegal, get over it. Its not going to be made legal because the government can't tax it because it grows naturally in America. Did the guy deserve to be shot and killed? No, he didn't but he did have the substance in his possession. Centermass when firing no exceptions. And if it is a panic reaction, they're not necessarily going to process "shoot his leg." And on top of that fact some drugs do hamper pain reactions so that may not necessarily help at all. Not sure if mary jane is one of those drugs. It would also depend on the caliber of the service pistol that the police department uses.
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 12:17 am
Asher2501 Nikolita I would be more inclined to say the overzealousness on the police's part is more to blame for the guy being shot than pot. Yeah the laws chould be changed, but pot didn't get the guy shot - a police officer being trigger happy got him shot. When someone rushes you even when you're holding a gun it can be just as much from being scared as being "trigger happy" that leads to the gun gong off. If someone rushes me and I don't know what they're going to do then I'm sure as hell not going to wait until it's too late to find out. I swear I was holding my tongue until now, but as former Navy in anti-drug operations and someone forced to do security details myself I take extreme offense to the cops immediately being made out to be the big bad when the man clearly shouldn't have had the substance to begin with. No offense was meant, honest. My point was meant more in contrast with Valgex's opinion that it (seemed to be) automatically pot's fault that the guy got shot, and I was trying to say I disagreed (personally) with that opinion. It's hard to pin it on any one cause - as with most things, it's a combination of factors that led to his death, unfortunately. I live in a country where pot is illegal, but it's common and it's not treated like such a big deal. It's illegal up here, but people smoke it (sometimes quite blatantly), and everyone just gets over it. It's probably why I don't approve of the cop shooting to kill someone who may or may not have been in possession of pot (at the time of the shooting). A "furtive movement" from someone hiding in a bathroom doesn't qualify as something that justifies shooting to kill, IMHO. But, that's just me, and no offense is meant.
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 9:53 am
Asher2501 Preston Trelsly While they shouldn't have had it in their possession in the first place, the cop could have always not aimed to kill. There are other ways of subduing a suspect besides shoot to kill. I can understand the quick reaction of a movement can make one think there is a weapon or other means of harm, but a knee cap would have sufficed, I'm sure. Some cops ARE trigger happy while some based on the situation are quick to act in a manner to defend. Did that guy and his fiancee deserve to be punished? Hell yes. Its illegal, get over it. Its not going to be made legal because the government can't tax it because it grows naturally in America. Did the guy deserve to be shot and killed? No, he didn't but he did have the substance in his possession. Centermass when firing no exceptions. And if it is a panic reaction, they're not necessarily going to process "shoot his leg." And on top of that fact some drugs do hamper pain reactions so that may not necessarily help at all. Not sure if mary jane is one of those drugs. It would also depend on the caliber of the service pistol that the police department uses. I don't call Marijuana a drug, I call it a Herb. But in a manner of speaking, it kind of reduces pain. Like you still feel it, but your relaxed and you forget about it quickly as you attempt to stay in a happy mood. But I don't think Marijuana is strong enough for you to forgot the pain of a gun shot wound compared to hitting your leg on something hard.
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 3:22 pm
Valgex Who said she is doing Marijuana?. Who said he was even smoking anywhere near the mother while she is pregnant? It was the husband's gig not hers. She might not have been smoking it. But like I said, second- and third-hand smoke both cause problems too. Do you honestly think he was smoking somewhere other than home, then showering and putting on clean clothes before he came anywhere near her? I doubt it. Valgex And when the Police barge in with guns, yelling and screaming, your going to panic and hide The article you posted said the police knocked. Anyone who hides when the police knock is up to no good. Valgex especially if you have a illegal substance that SHOULDN'T even be illegal. Studies show it may cause a wide variety of health issues. So why exactly should it be legal? Valgex You know why Marijuana is the #1 use substance, cause it's the most effective way to relieve pains without the risk of getting nasty side effects from man made stuff. Marijuana does have side effects, lots of them in fact. And I assure you, most people who use marijuana do not do so for any medicinal properties. Valgex About her story not making sense, can you point them out for me please? Um, yeah, remember the part when she said she didn't do anything wrong yet hid from the police when they knocked?
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 5:32 pm
LorienLlewellyn Valgex Who said she is doing Marijuana?. Who said he was even smoking anywhere near the mother while she is pregnant? It was the husband's gig not hers. She might not have been smoking it. But like I said, second- and third-hand smoke both cause problems too. Do you honestly think he was smoking somewhere other than home, then showering and putting on clean clothes before he came anywhere near her? I doubt it. Valgex And when the Police barge in with guns, yelling and screaming, your going to panic and hide The article you posted said the police knocked. Anyone who hides when the police knock is up to no good. Valgex especially if you have a illegal substance that SHOULDN'T even be illegal. Studies show it may cause a wide variety of health issues. So why exactly should it be legal? Valgex You know why Marijuana is the #1 use substance, cause it's the most effective way to relieve pains without the risk of getting nasty side effects from man made stuff. Marijuana does have side effects, lots of them in fact. And I assure you, most people who use marijuana do not do so for any medicinal properties. Valgex About her story not making sense, can you point them out for me please? Um, yeah, remember the part when she said she didn't do anything wrong yet hid from the police when they knocked? Then I want Tobacco to be illegal oh and Alcohol as well. Then our Country is truely a Drug free America. Because those two substances causes problems and they cause suffering, and they do cause death. It's a double standard and it just doesn't make sense! What permanent side effects does Marijuana cause that the end result is suffering and then death? Third in fact, most people DO use it for it's medical gifts. Some use it to relieves stress, some do it because they have series health problems, like screwed up backs and bad tempers like my father. And everyone else does it for fun, because it is FUN! You appreciate nature's beauty, you feel more attached to it for some reason and I can relate to that, I've been there. And water! One of the most amazing mother Earth's amazing liquids! Did you know, Marijuana activates the chemical called Dopamine, which is the dream chemical basically in your brain. Your brain produces more of it than Marijuana does and Dopamine is EVERYWHERE! In other people, in animals, in other plants. I don't mean to sound all snappy, but people just don't get it! Maybe 20 years down the road, they will and bump their heads and look back and say, "Why did we think&act in such a closed manner?"... Philosophy is our friend. (P.S) Marijuana doesn't ruin your life(Unless you lack control), Government is what ruins your life. We have millions in jail because they've smoked, purchased, sell or just grow and for nothing else. Over a PLANT!
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:31 pm
Valgex (P.S) Marijuana doesn't ruin your life(Unless you lack control), Government is what ruins your life. Are you serious? Did I seriously just read this load of bullcrap right? Let me get this straight and see if I am understanding you correctly. You're saying that because people chose to ignore laws that they knew damn well were in place, knew that violating those laws would get them shitcanned, and chose to do it anyway, that somehow "T3h Government" is the one at fault? For real? Maybe if they had taken the time to get the laws changed the right way, instead of doing something illegal, do you really think they'd be in the position that they're in? Hm?
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