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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:08 am
Is it necessary to use violence to overthrow evil? Is it ethical?
I think so. I think that when the corruption goes to far sheeple will throw off their chains and fight. I pray they will, at least.
You?
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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:00 am
Oh no, another controversial topic. biggrin I believe that violence, in small amounts, should be used. And I also believe in capital punishment (eg, execution for killers). I also have no problem with violence in the media and video games; people may say that they influence young minds but that is the most garbage I have ever heard.
I play GTA; it doesn't make me want to smash someone's head in for the sake of their vehicle. It relies on the individual, not the media presented to them. I do think those under 5 are suggestible though, so what they learn should be monitored, and children's innocence should be preserved as long as possible.
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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:38 pm
Priestess of Sekhmet Is it necessary to use violence to overthrow evil? Is it ethical? I think so. I think that when the corruption goes to far sheeple will throw off their chains and fight. I pray they will, at least. You? When it comes to violence, 'they' are FAR better at it. So its not really plausible using violence to overthrow them, our solutions (if its to succeed) can't be thought up using the same thinking that has caused our problems.
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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 4:52 pm
Any acts of violence will cause the whole truth movement extreme hardship. Anyone who acts on their own behalf and not with the majority of truthers all at once (our numbers are too small for a war ATM, and consider that more than half the truthers are peaceful), puts us all at great risk. If they get it into their heads that truthers are violent, we will be labeled as terrorists, put on lists, and put under surveillance. With new laws being made, we will serve jail time solely for our beliefs, without actually DOING any physical harm.
That being said, when you go to protests, go prepared. They WILL use gasses on you, L.R.A.D and even batons if you don't get out of the way. Wear "armor" lol. Bring gas masks and ear plugs. But don't CAUSE violence. That is how the media constantly portrays our protests, as violent. DO NOT GIVE THEM THE FOOTAGE THEY NEED TO TURN THE SHEEP AGAINST US. Show up, get noticed, bring huge signs, voice amplifiers, the norm. If you start causing trouble, you'll put EVERYONE in jeopardy. If you got the balls to go to jail and want to do SOMETHING to get back at the sheep in black who are just working for their paycheck... do something unharmful, but disgusting. Like water/squirt guns with a fowl liquid in it.. you know what I mean? >_>?
That being said, I believe everyone should own guns and ammo to protect their homes. I just don't see it possible that anything positive would come out of truthers with guns shooting at sheep in armor. The police ******** suck, but they're not the real enemy. And we'll never get our hands on the real bad guys unless you decide to go on a suicide stalk and stealth mission or pull a JFK assassination. I'm afraid to say it, but that's the only violence I will endorse (directly on the "bad guys").
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 3:43 pm
But what if they attack us? We just take it? I don't understand, I feel so helpless...I mean, I want to stand up for what I believe, and I want the sheep to see, and to understand not be afraid. But, I get so frustrated!
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:04 pm
Priestess of Sekhmet But what if they attack us? We just take it? I don't understand, I feel so helpless...I mean, I want to stand up for what I believe, and I want the sheep to see, and to understand not be afraid. But, I get so frustrated! If they start going on the offensive and taking us to FEMA camps or whatever, then hell yea we need to do some real fighting to protect ourselves. Someone (or several someones) got to orchestrate it though because we can't all go off doing our own thing, we'd stand little chance with our numbers. But being undetected by the CIA while organizing that? What a difficult task.
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:48 pm
so have you guys heard about the "armed" protests they want to do on April 19th? I hope no one fires their guns. And I hope enough people show up that the media can't call them fringe groups.. if they get over a million people that should wake people up to the fact that something is seriously wrong. I just hope the media doesn't spin it in a way that ends up promoting gun bans.
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:53 pm
John F. Kennedy Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. That said, do you really want to end up like that Michigan militia? Because that's what the media makes armed people that don't agree with the government out to be: rednecks with guns. I'm for violence when it's provoked. Mostly it's distasteful. However, I am trained in unarmed self defense and in the use of several weapons. Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. Like survival skills, but that's a whole other thread. As May has pointed out, if a truther were to incite violence it would work against the entire movement. We're already seen as crazies. Better not to get us labeled as violent crazies or terrorists. The terrorist thing is what bothers me the most. There seems to be a fine line between criticizing our government and being a terrorist these days. I hope your balance is good.
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:56 pm
Truth Seeker May so have you guys heard about the "armed" protests they want to do on April 19th? I hope no one fires their guns. And I hope enough people show up that the media can't call them fringe groups.. if they get over a million people that should wake people up to the fact that something is seriously wrong. I just hope the media doesn't spin it in a way that ends up promoting gun bans. I haven't heard this, but open-carry demonstrations have been on the rise for a while. I'm of the same hope as you that someone doesn't get drunk or forgets to take their meds and starts shooting something or someone up. The public is already terrified of this type of thing; I honestly think that the public perception could go either way, same with the media. Naturally the media's interpretation will sway the public a great deal. My personal opinion is that protests are about as useful as tits on a boar though. We have the right to peaceful assembly; that doesn't mean people will listen, let alone do something.
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 3:33 pm
Priestess of Sekhmet But what if they attack us? We just take it? I don't understand, I feel so helpless...I mean, I want to stand up for what I believe, and I want the sheep to see, and to understand not be afraid. But, I get so frustrated! Attack on us allows for "all safeties off". Until they throw the first punch or draw blood first we should remain peaceful and dormant... ready and waiting for the opportunity. Look like the innocent flower, but be the serpent beneath it. I'm for violence only when attacked. I support the Truth, but only as a guard and a protector. Being the victim gives you the sympathy/pity of the people. (AKA the Masses)
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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 10:53 pm
when it comes to the fighting, i say BRING IT ON!!!! lol, once they make the first attack, the war begins, and when the war begins then if my dreams, what gamigin says, and what others say, as well as the psychic i went to awhile ago, are correct... then once the war here starts then the court will reform, the council will be abollished, and thats when things should get truely interesting, and important choices will be made. but of course thats if things go according to plan.
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Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 9:24 am
X02WyvernLord Priestess of Sekhmet But what if they attack us? We just take it? I don't understand, I feel so helpless...I mean, I want to stand up for what I believe, and I want the sheep to see, and to understand not be afraid. But, I get so frustrated! Attack on us allows for "all safeties off". Until they throw the first punch or draw blood first we should remain peaceful and dormant... ready and waiting for the opportunity. Look like the innocent flower, but be the serpent beneath it. I'm for violence only when attacked. I support the Truth, but only as a guard and a protector. Being the victim gives you the sympathy/pity of the people. (AKA the Masses) In my opinion and experience(albeit somewhat limited) I have learnt that it is better indeed to not be the first to attack, or even the first to resort to violence to counteract it... there are more efficient ways to render the opponent defenseless.
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:45 pm
Maybe, but I'd rather be living under the rule of a dictator than end up in a lawless country where everyone can use me as a sex toy without retribution.
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 4:25 am
Aw, dammit. My mind always fights itself when I stumble upon such topics.
Well, I suppose to injure someone if they were going to injure or kill others if you don't is acceptable, but capital punishment...?
... No. I never have and never will agree with capital punishment. Though this arguement of mine will make sense to precious few of you, who are we to play God?
twisted
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 1:26 pm
if a sword is plumetting towards you, you don't yell at it.
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