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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:16 pm
Well for better or worst one the better things that happen during last month was I saw two very good documentaries one was called "This is My Africa" and I don't know the other one sadly. I came in too late but it was on the documentary channel but it was about Hip-Hop and how it's used in various parts in Africa. Anyway what I found very interesting was the fact that they have very similar problems we Blacks here in the states have. Racism, gun violence, slow to progress as a group, unable to obtain the means to get wealth, ect.
I don't know about the rest of you but for years I been told that African=/=Blacks and that Africans don't like Blacks and that we are as different as night and day. However, the more I finally begin studying our homeland the more I see there's really no difference and the two groups can get along and we share common objectives and oppression here and there. Like the whole HIV/AIDS deal while I am sure there's probably some government cover up bs going on African males have the same macho BS our Black Males here in America have. Thus they have an issue of DL cases as well. Either way Black/African women are dying because of the whole macho lie.
Gangs about the same just different ways and for different things. However, gangs exist because of police/goverment corruption and injustice. Basically, here and there we Blacks are messed up. We were kidnapped and they were colonized by the white empires of yesteryear. So know I understand where Marcus, Malcolm X, and even Sly Stone and Bob Marley were getting at Africa is our homeland even if we don't know where "home" really is. As they suffer the same kinds of injustice we do here in the states. So we as Blacks should really rethink what we think we know about Africans and Africa as a whole.
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:23 am
I have to disagree with some of what you said. While it's true that Africans and black Americans share some common problems, so do brown people (and white people) in other parts of the world. While we do have some of the same problems to deal with, I think that means we should strive to understand and help each other, but I do not think that means we are the same.
Black Americans are separate from Africans; we have a different culture, different social norms, and so on. This isn't to say that we have no similarities, but black Americans are a culture all their own -- a culture formed from a blending of some African culture with many other cultures from around the world, especially white European culture.
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:45 pm
Passion_Dragon I have to disagree with some of what you said. While it's true that Africans and black Americans share some common problems, so do brown people (and white people) in other parts of the world. While we do have some of the same problems to deal with, I think that means we should strive to understand and help each other, but I do not think that means we are the same. Black Americans are separate from Africans; we have a different culture, different social norms, and so on. This isn't to say that we have no similarities, but black Americans are a culture all their own -- a culture formed from a blending of some African culture with many other cultures from around the world, especially white European culture. And Blacks here in the state have done the same with mixing with European culture which is one of the key points to note why we are so similar. So even if we are separate we are still together in a lot of ways. Seriously, check out This is My Africa if and when you get the time to do so. It will explain it a lot better than I have.
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:39 am
I, as an African-American, Black American.. whatever...
have as much in common with people in Africa as I do with people in Thailand, China, Russia, Italy, Portugal, Spain, Honduras, Chile, Mexico... and so on and so forth.
All those problems you listed, racism, crime, HIV/AIDS, are shared by many different ethnic groups in whatever country in whatever part of the world.
We all have similarities, but ultimately they are them and we are us. You found a lot of similarities, but did you also take time to note the differences as well? Because there are some such as how certain behavior is perceived, relationships between the sexes, and so on and so forth.
They are no more "brothers" and "sisters" to me than someone in South Korea.
I am the son of a son of a son of a son of a son of a slave. And somewhere in all that, Indians and White people. The second part is key, because all the mixing makes me quite different from my supposed "brothers" over seas.
I do not have distinct features like a lot of Africans do that allow other Africans to readily identify by eye alone, what tribe they are a descendant of because unlike them.. I am mixed with many, many things.
In fact.. now that I think about it. I have far more in common with someone who is from say.. Puerto Rico, Cuba, or the Dominican Republic than Africa because people in those countries all share a similar mixture with black people here in the U.S.
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:20 pm
True, true. However, we too often only see the differences and not so much the similarities among people. While it doesn't really shock me it's was just refreshing to see a different side of Africa from what we are so used to seeing all the damn time.
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 1:29 pm
Mr Crawley I, as an African-American, Black American.. whatever...
have as much in common with people in Africa as I do with people in Thailand, China, Russia, Italy, Portugal, Spain, Honduras, Chile, Mexico... and so on and so forth.All those problems you listed, racism, crime, HIV/AIDS, are shared by many different ethnic groups in whatever country in whatever part of the world. We all have similarities, but ultimately they are them and we are us. You found a lot of similarities, but did you also take time to note the differences as well? Because there are some such as how certain behavior is perceived, relationships between the sexes, and so on and so forth. They are no more "brothers" and "sisters" to me than someone in South Korea. I am the son of a son of a son of a son of a son of a slave. And somewhere in all that, Indians and White people. The second part is key, because all the mixing makes me quite different from my supposed "brothers" over seas. I do not have distinct features like a lot of Africans do that allow other Africans to readily identify by eye alone, what tribe they are a descendant of because unlike them.. I am mixed with many, many things. In fact.. now that I think about it. I have far more in common with someone who is from say.. Puerto Rico, Cuba, or the Dominican Republic than Africa because people in those countries all share a similar mixture with black people here in the U.S. Agreed; that's also the gist of what I said.
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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:29 am
Mr Crawley In fact.. now that I think about it. I have far more in common with someone who is from say.. Puerto Rico, Cuba, or the Dominican Republic than Africa because people in those countries all share a similar mixture with black people here in the U.S. *coughCFoxcough*
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:20 pm
True, true. We are as human share similar issues but you must admit for years Black Americans have been told they were better than Africans and made to feel different from them via the media and our combine history. Ever seen Roots?
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:29 am
I will agree that American Blacks view themselves as above Africans without justification. This is likely due to the portrayal of Africa as being nothing but the bush and poor hut village tribes.
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:41 pm
Mr Crawley I will agree that American Blacks view themselves as above Africans without justification. This is likely due to the portrayal of Africa as being nothing but the bush and poor hut village tribes. Yup. The whole conquest and divide crap really worked didn't it? We as poor people all have common issue hey we as people. However race is just used as a man-made divider and it's really silly how this game has been use through the years. Just how long will it last.
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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:21 am
To add to the dividing stuff. It's not only Africa america does that to. But everyone outside the country. It's almost as if people come to america to get some sense of freedom and utopia to pratice culture and bring things. But when they do. it's beaten into them to feel ashamed about what they do, How they speak, or whatever. So that shame sets a whole chain reaction off and people are conforming or destroying themselves left and right.
Africa gets the most talked about because it's weird of how far it's fallen. Rome and other nations fell. But Africa really fell. And it's weird because with so may diamonds, Ivory, elements, Scientific findings, and other rich things found over there by the tons and tons of it. It shouldn't be as piss poor as it's made to seem like over here. It really should be more advanced. On the discovery channel it was proven that some of the first civilizations and tribes had mastered electricity. So Africa being so poor is basically a big WTF happened?.
And it's the same weird WTF what happened over here. In the richest of countries. You would think with all the black inventors and contributions to this countries advancement. The black people here would get more wealthy. But it's just weird how piss poor we're made to seem.
And I'm no other race has this problem. It's just weird for blacks and Africans looking at it this way. Almost like a bum who is sitting on stacks of billion dollars, has a shopping cart full of gold bricks, ivory and all other useful material. Then in his back pocket have all the answers to the worlds mysteries and you wonder why he's homeless.
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 2:19 am
I actually do see a difference between Blacks and Africans. Have you read the "Miseducation of a Negro by Carter G. Woodson? It really opens it up.
Blacks have been since slavery and post slavery been forced to fit the majority norms, and by stripping away their old African customs and refining them into a more "acceptable" manner. Also blacks in america often tend to generalize demographics by color while Africans see different sects of Africans by nose, height and body structure. (but I always felt that Black referred to a color, while African was a generalized nationality for people who originated from Africa, but go fig lol)
I do agree that our lineage does root from the same place, but that is the same as the whole world. We are all apart of the important race, the human race. We all suffer social issues, that plague some more than others and transcends lines of race and/or nationality.
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