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Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:34 pm
It's getting to a point that like Kwanzaa. I am really, really starting to hate 28-29 months out the year every year. All these companies and Networks using Blacks as just to sell equality like its a cheap and ugly product to be sold. That's what I believe they are doing. From Apple to ******** VW all these places just using Blacks to peddle products (or not) however after this month its back to the same s**t all over again. White models showing only white families buying white base products again.
Why is that we don't celebrate Asian History Month, Latino, Middle Eastern, or here's a fresh idea what not Native Americans? Let's not forget Women, Children, and all the other months we have but aren't as published and newsworthy as Black History Month. I would really, really like it we didn't still try to act like this country is so Black and White. Asians helped win WWII and built our railroads, Latinos gave us vast majority of the land (well we stole it but still had it not been for them we wouldn't have as much food as we have had) Native Americans kept the Whites from starving half the damn time, and who's know how many ways Middle Eastern help this country?
Still it just pisses me off that Black History Month is the only recognized ethnic month out of the whole year that everyone and everything talks about and how its becoming more commercial than anything. Besides, we had this month for HOW LONG and students across the board are still ******** clueless about any REAL Black History!
Besides Black History (as with all the other histories) are AMERICAN HISTORY! It's not like white people don't eat peanut butter, use stop lights, have open heart surgery, use fountain pens, mow their lawn, and I dunno all the other everyday objects that Blacks have either improved on or plain out invented.
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Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:10 pm
The worst things ever commited are motivated by the best of intentions and this is one of them. I completley agree with everything you said. From the commercialism of it to not honering the other races in America. It's all so true and It all should be one of those things that is honored all year along with other races histories.
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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:37 pm
I say we keep it up for at least 250 more years. Slavery "ended" .. what.. 1860 or so? We've got that many years left up until 400 since...
Can't get reparations, so let's take all we can!
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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:47 pm
Think about what is being taught in schools. In World History what do you learn about? European History? U.S. History? Asian History???
How many people can honestly name 5 black inventors and what they evented?
The month was made to show people that blacks have also contributed to U.S. history. No where in the classes we have now focus on the impact of black people on society. Did you know it was a black man who made the stoplight (Garret A. Morgan)? Throughout the whole year we focus on many other things and when Black History Month was made we were still in the era when people of black heritage never heard anything, there weren't even African Amer. Study courses. Granted now we have evolved (for the most part) to where we have more cultures in the U.S.
Now I understand the black history month should not just be a month it should be incorporated all year long to blend with everyone else, but it hasn't been. If you walk into a school and ask who is W. E. B. Du Bois, or James Weldon Johnson very few would be able to answer. And if you ask them where they learned it even fewer would say the school system.
*** I would suggest reading some books by Tim Wise. Because before I read his books I would have so agreed with you but he makes valid points about everything. 3nodding
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:49 pm
blakjapaneseangl-chan The worst things ever commited are motivated by the best of intentions and this is one of them. I completley agree with everything you said. From the commercialism of it to not honering the other races in America. It's all so true and It all should be one of those things that is honored all year along with other races histories. Yeah I kind of just complained how HBO has better Black programs than BET atm moment as well as I have seen movies that I haven't seen much on cable. I mean they have pretty much played all of the "Popular" Spike Lee movies, every Black empowerment movies, every mainstream Black actor/ress major or Oscar winning movie has been showed. I think History channel did a special about Roots while PBS is talking about how Lincoln was pushed into the slave issue and other reconstruction stuff. Then again hey that's SO PBS though they also have been airing President Obama's concert special as well. Never get the change to set the Tivo for it though. Still wish we did it for all the other GROUPS of people. I would love to learn about some Middle Easterns or hell current Native Americans because believe it or not we still have a few and no they just aren't running Casinos.
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:51 pm
Mr Crawley I say we keep it up for at least 250 more years. Slavery "ended" .. what.. 1860 or so? We've got that many years left up until 400 since... Can't get reparations, so let's take all we can! You know there's a special about that I seen before. While I don't normally agree with Big Al I do agree that I rather take free education and mental health services than to get 28-29 days of faux racial/culture acceptances.
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:00 pm
Foxprincess09 Think about what is being taught in schools. In World History what do you learn about? European History? U.S. History? Asian History??? How many people can honestly name 5 black inventors and what they evented? The month was made to show people that blacks have also contributed to U.S. history. No where in the classes we have now focus on the impact of black people on society. Did you know it was a black man who made the stoplight (Garret A. Morgan)? Throughout the whole year we focus on many other things and when Black History Month was made we were still in the era when people of black heritage never heard anything, there weren't even African Amer. Study courses. Granted now we have evolved (for the most part) to where we have more cultures in the U.S. Now I understand the black history month should not just be a month it should be incorporated all year long to blend with everyone else, but it hasn't been. If you walk into a school and ask who is W. E. B. Du Bois, or James Weldon Johnson very few would be able to answer. And if you ask them where they learned it even fewer would say the school system. *** I would suggest reading some books by Tim Wise. Because before I read his books I would have so agreed with you but he makes valid points about everything. 3nodding Yes but I agure how many people actually learn anything in these 28-29 days? Do you really non-Blacks are watching all these HBO specials? Or looking at CNN's Being Black in America? I mean seriously you go on internet forums and people are actually debating that Blacks don't have their own culture that there's no difference between White and Black culture anymore. We have too many people who firmly believe that All or MOST black people are supposed to live in the ghetto, have baby mama drama, and only listen to rap music. I don't see the educational factor happening among my non-Black peers here, there or anywhere. People still don't know James Baldwin, Niki Giovanni, or Toni Morrison are and those books will blow away most of the crap being produced in today's book market and I WILL say they are better than stuffy old Shakespeare crap. Hell you still have people believing that Rock was started by the ******** Beatles and Elvis. So what's the point of all this if the only people who kind of benefit from this are the same people who not only in the same culture but the same ones that actively search for these stories of Black empowerment?
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:27 am
Blacks' contributions to society or overlooked. While I do think our history should be taught as mainstream and not on one stupid month, take what you can get until then. Some of us have families who teach us that black people are good for more than shucking and jiving, but not everyone does. That's the only time some kids get to learn about their people. Again it shouldn't be that way, but atleast someone gets the truth somewhere.
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:33 am
I think one of the reasons Americans (including black Americans) are so ignorant about black history is because it seems to be a "sore subject" for many people. Who wants to talk about or embrace a history so full of injustice, pain, and suffering?
This is why I'm grateful that many company's choose to focus on the achievements of black Americans rather than just slavery and other issues that arouse angry, sad, or indifferent feelings and responses from people.
Slavery and its abolition and aftermath are important parts of the history of America, not just black Americans, and remembering these "bad parts" of history is crucial -- as the saying goes, 'those who forget history/the past are doomed to repeat it.'
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:47 am
Princess Z-M Foxprincess09 Think about what is being taught in schools. In World History what do you learn about? European History? U.S. History? Asian History??? How many people can honestly name 5 black inventors and what they evented? The month was made to show people that blacks have also contributed to U.S. history. No where in the classes we have now focus on the impact of black people on society. Did you know it was a black man who made the stoplight (Garret A. Morgan)? Throughout the whole year we focus on many other things and when Black History Month was made we were still in the era when people of black heritage never heard anything, there weren't even African Amer. Study courses. Granted now we have evolved (for the most part) to where we have more cultures in the U.S. Now I understand the black history month should not just be a month it should be incorporated all year long to blend with everyone else, but it hasn't been. If you walk into a school and ask who is W. E. B. Du Bois, or James Weldon Johnson very few would be able to answer. And if you ask them where they learned it even fewer would say the school system. *** I would suggest reading some books by Tim Wise. Because before I read his books I would have so agreed with you but he makes valid points about everything. 3nodding Yes but I agure how many people actually learn anything in these 28-29 days? Do you really non-Blacks are watching all these HBO specials? Or looking at CNN's Being Black in America? I mean seriously you go on internet forums and people are actually debating that Blacks don't have their own culture that there's no difference between White and Black culture anymore. We have too many people who firmly believe that All or MOST black people are supposed to live in the ghetto, have baby mama drama, and only listen to rap music. I don't see the educational factor happening among my non-Black peers here, there or anywhere. People still don't know James Baldwin, Niki Giovanni, or Toni Morrison are and those books will blow away most of the crap being produced in today's book market and I WILL say they are better than stuffy old Shakespeare crap. Hell you still have people believing that Rock was started by the ******** Beatles and Elvis. So what's the point of all this if the only people who kind of benefit from this are the same people who not only in the same culture but the same ones that actively search for these stories of Black empowerment? It's going to take time (a long time) until non-black Americans acknowledge the contributions black Americans have made. Think about this: there are many people alive today who remember or were involved in the Civil Rights Movement, and subsequent laws and other political strides made by black Americans. ... And yet, today, within those peoples' lifetimes, we have a President who is half black. If you compare that to how long it took slavery to be abolished from its introduction in the US, we have made great progress as a country in a *very* short length of time. Who knows what positive strides could be made in the next decade, or even in the next year, regarding how black history (and the history of other non-whites) is taught and embraced? In the meantime, I consider small occurrences of tolerance and learning to be revitalizing. An example: when I went to see the film "Precious" and I was one of only four brown people in a theater which was half-filled. xd The fact that there may have been more white people than black going to see a film with no major white actors (*ahem*TheBlindSide), was refreshing.
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:26 pm
It really shouldn't take so long for them to finally just accept that without Black/African-American this country would still be in the stone age. However, at least our month get some sort of attention by the mass media can't say the same about Asians. LOL hardly any whites were looking at the Blind side either. When I saw it a month or so ago it was mostly Blacks and Latinos.
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 1:26 pm
Princess Z-M It really shouldn't take so long for them to finally just accept that without Black/African-American this country would still be in the stone age. However, at least our month get some sort of attention by the mass media can't say the same about Asians. LOL hardly any whites were looking at the Blind side either. When I saw it a month or so ago it was mostly Blacks and Latinos. I was actually trying to imply the contrary: that a lot of white people went to see "The Blind Side" and "Precious." I was just saying that while "Precious" had no major white actors, many white people went to see it, just like "The Blind Side," even though "The Blind Side" had major white actors in it. My point was that it's refreshing to see that not just black people went to see "Precious."
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:03 pm
Passion_Dragon Princess Z-M It really shouldn't take so long for them to finally just accept that without Black/African-American this country would still be in the stone age. However, at least our month get some sort of attention by the mass media can't say the same about Asians. LOL hardly any whites were looking at the Blind side either. When I saw it a month or so ago it was mostly Blacks and Latinos. I was actually trying to imply the contrary: that a lot of white people went to see "The Blind Side" and "Precious." I was just saying that while "Precious" had no major white actors, many white people went to see it, just like "The Blind Side," even though "The Blind Side" had major white actors in it. My point was that it's refreshing to see that not just black people went to see "Precious." and from what I heard it won a couple of Oscars last night. However the Oscars are a bitter subject for me atm.
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:07 pm
But I believe that the reasons why everyone who posted a reason why we should keep it. It's why we shouldn't.
- I agree all we learn in school is european history and blacks dont get their due as to what they contributed. But realize that it wasn't only blacks who built this country. Asians invented things too. As well as Middle easterns and Latino's. Can people really name 5 middle eastern inventors? or 5 mexican inventors?.
It's Just like asians and spanish people marched with blacks in the civil rights movement. But it's not talked about in black history at all. So black history is just as guilty as not giving people their due as european history does. Those people are just ignored. I dont believe people can just sit there and say "Oh well I'm not that race. So why should I even care about heir history. screw them and let them get their own thing". History is history and it's something all people should learn despite the race. You'd be surprised just what you would learn.
I love black history. But just because I'm black doesn't mean that stops me from learning the history of others. Thats why we shouldn't have black history month. Your just putting other people on the back burner.
And it's why American movies are always so messed up when someone wants to do a film about the past or history. No one bothers to truly learn about the people and we get Elizabeth Taylor doing cleopatra. Or the movie Sinbad legend of the seven seas. It was suppose to be arabic mythology and they made it european. So I dnt believe we should have black history month or when I want to learn about another type of history. I have to take a collage course. It should be done as early as possible.
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:16 am
Movies like Precious are bad for black people's overall image to other races.
Remember, white people generally get most of their ideas and info about black people from various media.. not from black people themselves.
They see whatever movie/news story/hear whatever song..
And then have one of those chance encounters with someone who fits the image to a T and then they apply it across the board. Because with your own kind you see the differences.. with others... you tend to miss them very often.
White people (and black people unfortunately) are in love with the idea of an angry, loud, fat black woman. To the point where everyone thinks that's how it's supposed to be. It's not a good look.
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