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Kamunyak =
Traumatized and confused
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Needs a family badly
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Amazing and defiant of nature's limitations
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 1:09 pm


Has anyone seen this special on Animal Planet? I found it unbelievably moving. I've always felt a bit bad for lionesses, as the males of the species can be disturbingly violent to even their own kind, but this was unbelievable.

For those who haven't seen it, Kamunyak is a lioness in Kenya who has no pride. Scientists and researchers guess that it was killed, so she was forced to wander alone. Left with the trauma of losing her loved ones and having no pride or territory to belong to, she developed an odd interest. She adopted an oryx baby. For those who don't know, and oryx is a gray, antelope-like animal (I'm not sure if it's officially called an antelope) with two tall, straigth horns on its head. In other words, they are a lion's prey, especially the young and defenseless ones.

However, Kamunyak cared obsessively for the oryx calf for 16 days, refusing to eat and making sure the baby never left her sight. The researchers even threw meat to her in an effort to feed her, but she refused it. Both the lioness and the baby were starving to death, as the oryx had no one to nurse from and Kamunyak would not eat meat as long as she had the calf with her. On the sixteenth day, the dazed and starving calf was killed and eaten by a male lion when it wandered away from Kamunyak. The lioness watched fearfully as it was dragged away, and stopped to smell the spots where it had bled like lions do for their own cubs.

Kamunyak didn't stop there, though. She adopted several more oryx calves over the next year. Some were killed or starved to death, and another reunited with its real mother. Afterwards, Kamunyak dissappeared and hasn't been seen since.

I can't explain how moving this program was to watch. i have a cat myself, and it was unbelievable that such an instincive animal could adopt something meant to be prey. To me, it shows how misunderstood animals are as far as their emotions and mental capabilities. This lioness refused to hunt as long as she had the oryx calf, but obviously hunted afterwards, since she survived. I'll admit that I cried when the oryx was killed. Though the fact that it died might have been for the best. It was starving to death either way, and probably saved Kamunyak's life because she would not eat emat in its presence. Though it left me afraid that she might never trust other lions, as the male lion was the one who killed the baby right in front of her.

If you're curious to find out more, there are pictures of Kamunyak and the calf here: http://www.save-the-elephants.org/Photo Gallery/Miracle Lioness/Kamunyak.html. A brief story of her is here: http://www.lewa.org/oryx-lioness.php.

I've seen other cases of animals adopting other animals, but never a case of a wild predator adopting wild prey. Any comments/opinions/other stories you wish to share along these lines?
 
PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 5:47 pm


That lion is amazing... It makes me have so much respect for animals like her... I just think that it is so amazing that she would do that.....

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 6:03 pm


That's how I felt. Like I mentioned, I have a cat myself. In fact, I've been around cats most of my life. Even if they are friendly, they're very instinctive animals. If something looks like prey, they'll chase it. So, to watch a wild lion, which must be even more instinctive than a domestic cat, act so caring to something it should be attacking, it just threw me off. I was really speechless.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 7:13 pm


Nah, I didn't see it. I saw something close to that a year back about a lion who wanted to be a vegetarian because she found killing other animals barbaric (and yes, it was realistic -- not cartoonistic). Now that was definitely a moving movie, and I found it rather cool they could match up voices with the actual movements of the lions and such. Very cool.. I was defintely emotional when her cubs were eaten (well some of the anyway) by the brother to the scavenger pride's leader. Disgusting. Lions can definitely be unusual when it comes down to it.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 9:31 am


Irmatu
Nah, I didn't see it. I saw something close to that a year back about a lion who wanted to be a vegetarian because she found killing other animals barbaric (and yes, it was realistic -- not cartoonistic). Now that was definitely a moving movie, and I found it rather cool they could match up voices with the actual movements of the lions and such. Very cool.. I was defintely emotional when her cubs were eaten (well some of the anyway) by the brother to the scavenger pride's leader. Disgusting. Lions can definitely be unusual when it comes down to it.


I totally agree. I do know that male lions kill the cubs in a prdie when they take over in order to kill off the last male's bloodline. I've also seen a male kill an injured lioness that had been part of the pride. Perhaps it's just the males who act so unbelievably aggressive. I don't think I've heard of a lioness doing the same types of things.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 7:35 pm


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Irmatu
Nah, I didn't see it. I saw something close to that a year back about a lion who wanted to be a vegetarian because she found killing other animals barbaric (and yes, it was realistic -- not cartoonistic). Now that was definitely a moving movie, and I found it rather cool they could match up voices with the actual movements of the lions and such. Very cool.. I was defintely emotional when her cubs were eaten (well some of the anyway) by the brother to the scavenger pride's leader. Disgusting. Lions can definitely be unusual when it comes down to it.


I totally agree. I do know that male lions kill the cubs in a prdie when they take over in order to kill off the last male's bloodline. I've also seen a male kill an injured lioness that had been part of the pride. Perhaps it's just the males who act so unbelievably aggressive. I don't think I've heard of a lioness doing the same types of things.


No, I don't think lionesses have such a desparate pecking order amongst each other to kill the daughters of other females. It wouldn't make much sense, and they all work together for kills and babysitting anyway. It's only the kitties carrying the Y chromosome that are the fierce aggressors -- unfortunately.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 6:27 am


I saw what Irmatu was talking about. It was the one that was realistic but the lions were talking right? I cry every time I see it. I'm actualy glad they show this kind of thing cuse I never knew male lions could be brutal (I grew up watching the lion king sweatdrop ) But I do know its not sensless. It may seem that way to us but think about it. Males kill other males cubs too keep their domonence. A males survival depends on that domonence. Its rare to see a male without a pride. Females do all the hunting. Males are actualy verry inept at hunting. And the male that killed the female saw her as a drain on the pride. Her survival might have ment the death of the pride. Male lions think about the future suvival and dont worry about things like compassion.
PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 2:39 pm


InfinitysDaughter
I saw what Irmatu was talking about. It was the one that was realistic but the lions were talking right? I cry every time I see it. I'm actualy glad they show this kind of thing cuse I never knew male lions could be brutal (I grew up watching the lion king sweatdrop ) But I do know its not sensless. It may seem that way to us but think about it. Males kill other males cubs too keep their domonence. A males survival depends on that domonence. Its rare to see a male without a pride. Females do all the hunting. Males are actualy verry inept at hunting. And the male that killed the female saw her as a drain on the pride. Her survival might have ment the death of the pride. Male lions think about the future suvival and dont worry about things like compassion.


I suppose. But it still seems a little extreme. Most animals, when they hear another animal from their group crying for help, will go see what's wrong. Not charge in and kill it. neutral Hmm.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 10:58 pm


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InfinitysDaughter
I saw what Irmatu was talking about. It was the one that was realistic but the lions were talking right? I cry every time I see it. I'm actualy glad they show this kind of thing cuse I never knew male lions could be brutal (I grew up watching the lion king sweatdrop ) But I do know its not sensless. It may seem that way to us but think about it. Males kill other males cubs too keep their domonence. A males survival depends on that domonence. Its rare to see a male without a pride. Females do all the hunting. Males are actualy verry inept at hunting. And the male that killed the female saw her as a drain on the pride. Her survival might have ment the death of the pride. Male lions think about the future suvival and dont worry about things like compassion.


I suppose. But it still seems a little extreme. Most animals, when they hear another animal from their group crying for help, will go see what's wrong. Not charge in and kill it. neutral Hmm.


Like I said. It seems cruel to us but its natural to them.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 2:03 am


I wish I had time for TV but I don't. animal planet used to be my fav next to disney and cartoon network

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 1:04 pm


That sounds amazing, i wish that i could have seen it but i dont have animal planet, crying ,though i wish that i did. The photos were really good though thank-you.
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 6:50 pm


You're welcome. ^-^ Sorry you two couldn't see the show. That one sight I gave, though, covers basically everyhting told in the show.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:59 pm


On the website for the film it says it will be on again March 6th on animal planet... it says at 7-8 pm EST.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 11:17 am


Wow, that sounds like a good special and I missed it! DARN IT! I like trying to watch those types of specials! Thank you for putting up the info about it!

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:34 am


Have I watched it?


Dude! I wrote fan fiction on it!

Kamunyak, Blessed One.



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