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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:12 am
Discussing the Manga Due to overwhelming public demand: SPOILER ALERT!
Okay... So, I just decided to create this thread just to talk about the latest manga... not anime... please... Anyways, I just decided... wait, I just repeated it. I mean, I will have to update this often about the manga! I'll not let this die after the first one discussed! Let's talk about everything there is to discuss about a chapter!
So... Let's sit down and talk...
Manga Chapter: Chapter 432
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:15 am
So, guys, is it just me or is the entire chapter really creepy and scary? I mean, goodness me, when I was reading it and paused a bit, I felt my hands so cold. It was like I was reciting a poem in front of the class!
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:43 pm
Perhaps you should put a spoiler alert on here? I would LOVE to discuss with you about the latest chapters but maybe not everyone is as far as us XP
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:06 pm
Primera Espada Perhaps you should put a spoiler alert on here? I would LOVE to discuss with you about the latest chapters but maybe not everyone is as far as us XP i agreeeeeee heart
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:36 pm
Once we get a spoiler alert on here, I will disscuss my opinion biggrin
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:50 pm
Saaaame! I got some observations and theories for you guys! biggrin Spoiler alert in title please. ^-^
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:37 am
Ahahaha! Sorry about that! I must've overlooked the one! XD Okay, game?
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 2:18 pm
Personally, like I told Akira, I think Aizen is the greatest enemy created next to Sephiroth. I don't think he's overpowered at all, if he's going to betray the Seireitei and lead the Espada, he HAS to be really powerful.
On another note, did everyone just forget about Gin? And what about that Grimmjow? Am I right people!?
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II Palmtop Tiger II Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 2:38 pm
I think these series has gone to hell. It went this road around the time Hitsugaya failed to kill Luppi. This chapter was drab in my opinion. It made little sense in most places... Hitsugaya rushing in like a moron, more talking, WHY IN HELL ARE THEY NOT ALL GOING AT HIM AT ONCE!? scream
And wtf Yamamoto, gather some more dust, why don'cha? I mean, your army and friends are only half-dead... ~Complaints~ Bleach is just all about Kubo putting as little material in a chapter as possible and then fanwhoring overused characters with useless splash pages. ******** Hitsugaya did NOT need a whole page for him to use Bankai for the umpteenth time.
Most of Kubo's not-so-large panels have one face in them and they are never even a whole face. While aesthetically pleasing to the eye at times when looking for epic reappearances, it makes for waste. s**t.... Kensei and Wonderweiss duking it out in the background of a few panels would be enough to please me if not for a chapter or so... But the lack of actual content and progression is what bugs me. Time does not stand still while other people are talking, and as far as we know, throughout this entire ordeal, Gin is dicking around, and Kensei and Wonderweiss have already killed each other or are looking at each other like retards. If you read One Piece or Naruto, you can easily compare the lack of depth and progression in the plot.
And Aizen is overpowered. Matches Yamamoto in points and Kyoka Suigetsu? If Kanzen Saimin is his Shikai, then reality bending superhax will ensue with Bankai.
>_> <_<
8D
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 2:48 pm
Primera Espada Personally, like I told Akira, I think Aizen is the greatest enemy created next to Sephiroth. I don't think he's overpowered at all, if he's going to betray the Seireitei and lead the Espada, he HAS to be really powerful.
On another note, did everyone just forget about Gin? And what about that Grimmjow? Am I right people!?
Aizen is pretty epic, and im almost positive he could speed blitz ANYONE in the area. Overpowered? Not at all.
Also, im thinking Gin is going to try to snipes someone like he did Hiyori (laughing about it) Grimmjow should come to help..that would be amazing.
Has anyone noticed that NONE of the main heroes ever die..it sucks really, because thats what gives a story some edge.
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 2:58 pm
Kitsune-tono I think these series has gone to hell. It went this road around the time Hitsugaya failed to kill Luppi. This chapter was drab in my opinion. It made little sense in most places... Hitsugaya rushing in like a moron, more talking, WHY IN HELL ARE THEY NOT ALL GOING AT HIM AT ONCE!? scream
And wtf Yamamoto, gather some more dust, why don'cha? I mean, your army and friends are only half-dead... ~Complaints~ Bleach is just all about Kubo putting as little material in a chapter as possible and then fanwhoring overused characters with useless splash pages. ******** Hitsugaya did NOT need a whole page for him to use Bankai for the umpteenth time.
Most of Kubo's not-so-large panels have one face in them and they are never even a whole face. While aesthetically pleasing to the eye at times when looking for epic reappearances, it makes for waste. s**t.... Kensei and Wonderweiss duking it out in the background of a few panels would be enough to please me if not for a chapter or so... But the lack of actual content and progression is what bugs me. Time does not stand still while other people are talking, and as far as we know, throughout this entire ordeal, Gin is dicking around, and Kensei and Wonderweiss have already killed each other or are looking at each other like retards. If you read One Piece or Naruto, you can easily compare the lack of depth and progression in the plot.
And Aizen is overpowered. Matches Yamamoto in points and Kyoka Suigetsu? If Kanzen Saimin is his Shikai, then reality bending superhax will ensue with Bankai.
>_> <_<
8D I'm going to agree, and say what the hell Kubo. Hitsugaya couldn't even beat Luppi, why...in gods name...can he beat Halibel. BS! I thinik Kubo's rushing everyone to beatdown so Genryusai can take a beating and Ichigo's gonna be like "No!" Yeah, I hate that he's rushing all these fights. Stark had an amazing chance to show his power, but nope. He was cheated. Same with Barragan..Halibel deserved to die.
How dare you! How dare you compare Bleach to one piece. E.E One piece is the epitome of out-of-the-butt anime! Naruto is a better comparison, but really, they haven't gotten anywhere..How long has Sasuke been trying to kill Danzo, and Naruto trying to get Sasuke? xP
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:05 pm
I cannot understand the logic of anyone who thinks Aizen isn't overpowered. He frickin' hax'd Shinji's shikai in like a minute of him releasing despite the effects of it, can stop a Bankai with his finger, he matches Yamamoto in skill and power, has twice a Captain's Reiryoku, has Kanzen Saimin that only Ichigod is immune to, and still has Bankai and more than likely Vizard powers as well, which will be just as hax.
And I'll compare Bleach to One Piece all day. Oda continuously puts out chapters that are more epic than the one before it, has perfect story lines, never contradicts his writing, focuses his story on more than just his main characters and is still going strong. How dare I? How dare you say Bleach is better with it's crappy storyline and little thought put into the next chapter. s**t, even Kubo said he just writes and draws what comes to him. In any case, my comparison was the plot progression and amount of material in each chapter, not how great the series is. Though One Piece is several times better anyway.
And in regards to rushing these fights, he's not. They were way too slow, at least if you look at how much actually happened it each fight.
I love Bleach and the concepts of it, but lately Kubo has made several bad decisions that have made the storyline worse and worse.
As for Danzou and Sasuke, at least other stuff happens during all of that. In Bleach, time pretty much stops for whatever fight is going on.
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II Palmtop Tiger II Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:35 pm
Kitsune-tono I cannot understand the logic of anyone who thinks Aizen isn't overpowered. He frickin' hax'd Shinji's shikai in like a minute of him releasing despite the effects of it, can stop a Bankai with his finger, he matches Yamamoto in skill and power, has twice a Captain's Reiryoku, has Kanzen Saimin that only Ichigod is immune to, and still has Bankai and more than likely Vizard powers as well, which will be just as hax.
And I'll compare Bleach to One Piece all day. Oda continuously puts out chapters that are more epic than the one before it, has perfect story lines, never contradicts his writing, focuses his story on more than just his main characters and is still going strong. How dare I? How dare you say Bleach is better with it's crappy storyline and little thought put into the next chapter. s**t, even Kubo said he just writes and draws what comes to him. In any case, my comparison was the plot progression and amount of material in each chapter, not how great the series is. Though One Piece is several times better anyway.
And in regards to rushing these fights, he's not. They were way too slow, at least if you look at how much actually happened it each fight.
I love Bleach and the concepts of it, but lately Kubo has made several bad decisions that have made the storyline worse and worse.
As for Danzou and Sasuke, at least other stuff happens during all of that. In Bleach, time pretty much stops for whatever fight is going on. ...If Aizen was only as powerful as Ichigo, then he couldn't lead the Espade, nor would he have been stupid enough to betray the Gotei 13. Its not like he isn't smart either. He was planning since before the Vizards became Vizards. That alone says enough. He stopped Ichigo's Bankai with a finger..Grimmjow did it with his wrist. Aizen>>>>>>>>>>>>>Grimmjow, get it?
Have you lost it? Is that really what you see? One Piece is massive PIS..no matter how you look at it. Every fight Luffy is in except the one against Enel, had intense plot injections. Now Bleach isn't perfect, but One Piece is just stupid. Its funny, because my friend is also a One Piece fan, and I was the one who told him through every fight what was gonna happen. Like Luffy vs Lucci. Picture of Robin. "I WANNA LIIIIIIIIVE!!!!!!" Incredible Luffy. Against Arlong. Picture of Nami crying. "You made Nami cry." Incredible Luffy. Luffy against Crocodile, picture of whatever the blue haired girl crying and stuff and then GumGum Storm through the roof....... See where I'm going? Just now, in the few chapters where Luffy has been saved about 16 times in his attempt to save Ace. "I wanna liiiiiiiiive!" Oops, Luffy uses Haiki, by accident!.....then suddenly, none of the Admirals are able to get in his way? And what with this cannon movie? That movie is a plot injection itself, so I wont go there. Basically, its always a copy paste of the previos.....wait......even in Enel's fight, there was a backflash! Zolo always...and I mean ALWAYS, comes up with some HAX attack at the end of a fight..Luffy always finishes his fights with Double Barrel, or Storm. Sanji...whats up with that foot he never bought up before?...One Piece is really just random, and claims of it having anything other then good fights is just blindness..
I will say, Bleach has been slow lately, but in the same concept, he rushed through almost all the fights with potential to break anime records. Also, what happened? Danzo Sasuke has been happening for the longest..last I seen Naruto, he was hyperventilating, unless I forgot something. Sakura was also planning to kill Sasuke. Itachi's fight was supposed to happen at the same time as Pein, but that didn't happen..remember?
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:02 pm
I'm not saying he shouldn't be powerful, or smart or calculating, I'm saying he's hax'd as s**t. He has way too much power for one person. The ability to control all senses plus all that other bullshit? Wtf? He's basically unbeatable. All of this was just... well I can't even verify it with a response because I couldn't read most of it. Separate your points if you actually want me to read them. I'll try though... If you don't see anything other than fights, then you are the blind one. neutral
What about Bleach?

Quote: I will say, Bleach has been slow lately, but in the same concept, he rushed through almost all the fights with potential to break anime records. Also, what happened? Danzo Sasuke has been happening for the longest..last I seen Naruto, he was hyperventilating, unless I forgot something. Sakura was also planning to kill Sasuke. Itachi's fight was supposed to happen at the same time as Pein, but that didn't happen..remember?
Nice points, sorta, just remember that Bleach's war has been going on for over a year now.... and they haven't moved...
Oh... and one last thing to add for Plotkai is Bleach; Bankai in three days that is somehow better than most Bankai out there.
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II Palmtop Tiger II Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:33 pm
Kitsune-tono I'm not saying he shouldn't be powerful, or smart or calculating, I'm saying he's hax'd as s**t. He has way too much power for one person. The ability to control all senses plus all that other bullshit? Wtf? He's basically unbeatable. All of this was just... well I can't even verify it with a response because I couldn't read most of it. Separate your points if you actually want me to read them. I'll try though... If you don't see anything other than fights, then you are the blind one. neutral
What about Bleach?

Quote: I will say, Bleach has been slow lately, but in the same concept, he rushed through almost all the fights with potential to break anime records. Also, what happened? Danzo Sasuke has been happening for the longest..last I seen Naruto, he was hyperventilating, unless I forgot something. Sakura was also planning to kill Sasuke. Itachi's fight was supposed to happen at the same time as Pein, but that didn't happen..remember?
Nice points, sorta, just remember that Bleach's war has been going on for over a year now.... and they haven't moved...
Oh... and one last thing to add for Plotkai is Bleach; Bankai in three days that is somehow better than most Bankai out there.
This is kind of funny..because again, I say. If he wasn't powerful, then he wouldn't be the main protagonist...One Piece is on the same Journey they were on since it started..so...its kind of stale.. here.
Condom: Gets saved by Shanks cause I ate a FRUIT! Then trains for 10 years becoming stronger then people who have been at this their entire lives.
Swords: Im the bestestest swordsman ever and I hunt pirates but this one saved me so I'll join him!
Condom: Meets GPS who cries,
then stomps a shark
(who should have won due to the bite > >)
GPS System: Oh I'm the baddest map maker ever! -Bam join #2
Nose: Oh my girlfriend got tooked and these pirates helped me. -cries -Bam join #3
Nike: Theres these guys tryin to take our boat
Condom: Wins -_-
Nike: They saved my chef teachers boat I wanna join -cries
Moose: They killed my teacher!! -cries
Condom: Take this metal mouth GGDB!!!
Moose: Joins with Tears. Im gonna stop there cause I can really keep going. One Piece is garbage..theres no good story here..it sucked in the beginning. Got good..and then from the nowhere void
Condom: I wanna try this out. Gear Second, and third...
Ichigo's Bankai is nowhere near the best, or strongest. Its just speed. No extra reiatsu or anything, which is why he couldn't cut Aizen..
Lastly, Ichigo got Bankai like Kisuke, so why complain about that?
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