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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 7:45 pm
So I've noticed that Bassoon players like I... Have a real thin existence during band.
Example no.1: We are going to switch gears to concert musics on Friday, 10/5/09. Yay, we're excited. My BD mentions to us that, "We have some players switching instruments next Monday... We have 2 Oboe players... I mean 3. We have a Bari Sax player... Ah, we have a Bass Clarinet player... Very nice... And I guess that's it from this class." What the hell.
Example no.2: Symphony Orchestra. Fun stuff. The Orchestra teacher wants the Trombones, Tubas, Horns, and Bass Clarinet players to play at measure 80. I look to my right.
...Where's the Bass Clarinet player?
I raise my hand and say, "Mrs. Chau, do you want me to play too?" She looks at me with this surprised look. "Oh, my bad... AND Bassoons." Another what the hell.
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 9:34 pm
It wasn't like that for me. There were certainly times that I was forgotten but sometimes I was intentionally left out as well because I was also part of a group of musicians that signed up for both semesters of band every year and played together in honor band and community orchestra outside of school. We were very reliable as far as knowing our parts and paying close attention in rehearsal but I think our director also knew that we could be trusted to do the thinking part of music with less guidance than he spared for the others.
As far as making yourself visible, it sounds like you're on the right track though, paying attention and making sure to join in when you think you're probably supposed to. Just try not to get offended by it, especially if you're an underclassman - it's not a slight on you in any way. Some directors just aren't in the habit of having bassoonists.
Though I was lucky enough to meet one once who guest-directed an honor band I was in. Despite being a brass player himself, he was very aware of the bassoons - he had a lot of rules about decor and conduct on stage and one of those was that the whole band should stand when the director first comes out on stage but he also wanted to get right in to the first piece absolutely as soon as possible. Luckily, he realized that it's not easy for a bassoonist to go from standing to playing in under a second (because of seat straps) and so he made sure to keep an eye on us so he didn't start the song before we'd settled into playing position.
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:44 pm
It would be IMPOSSIBLE for my current band director to ignore us, but I do notice that we get lumped all together along with the other low woodwinds and get called "low brass" altogether.
We're not low brass! stressed
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:55 pm
well that sucks for you but in my band we dont even have a single basoon and our only bass clarinet just quit last month so yeah cool
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 11:53 am
our teacher will say he wnats to hear everyone playing whatever he tune is, then let us know who should all be playing and sometimes he forgets me...
Not the teachers fault, actually. I was looking at some of the scores. the bassoon isn't even written down in a couple of them.
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 1:48 pm
Senshi82 well that sucks for you but in my band we dont even have a single basoon and our only bass clarinet just quit last month so yeah cool Haha, we are also basoonless, and oboeless(though I wouldn't mind playing if my BD would let me. I aksed, he was happy, and then I guess he forgot I was going to play it.) And I'm not sure how many bass clarinets we have, but at least 1, if any freshman switch or something. I just know my friend Josh plays bass clarinet for concert and bari sax for marching. I may have to bring up the oboe idea again. My best friend taught me how to get a note or two out and such. I've also taught myself almost evey other isntrument. I can get notes out, I just don't know any fingerings but one or two.
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 9:12 am
I play bass clarinet. Here's a "what the hell":
So we're all tuning, and because our conductor is so paranoid, he has to do it WITH us. He holds the tuner around, every row, I'm in the second row, there are TWO of us, and he SKIPS RIGHT OVER US. Halfway through the Chorale, he stops us and is like, "Someone sounds sharp..." he goes through EVERY SECTION, row by row, there are TWO of us, and he SKIPS RIGHT OVER US. Finally, I stop him the third time he skips over us for another tuning session, and I'm like, "Mr. E, you skipped us. For everything." And he's gonna crack another joke about us being invisible, but then he bites his tongue and tunes us. What the hell.
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Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:30 pm
Well our BD loves me. A few days ago my bassoon fell off the chair i set it on and the bocal completley bent (scariest day of my life, i actually started crying) I thought i was gonna die but she wasnt even that mad and said i didnt have to pay for it eek Well anywaysss. Alot of times in band the BD'll be saying "trombones, baritones, bass clarinet, play here." Im used to it so i rarely make comments and just tell the 2nd chair bassoon to play cuz shes usually confused. So yeah. I understand. emo
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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:20 pm
that happens to me but only in honors band in regular band my teacher is a bassoonist too so i cant get out of tht but in honors band its a different teacher and im the only one so usually i just sit in the back talk to my saxaphone friends and text. but i totally agree with u bassoon gets ignored to much
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:30 am
I my band i never get ignored. The tubas, bassoons, and oboes are the most important because we have very different parts and have our own solos. we even get special treatment. I am never forgotten about only because for a while I was the only bassoon player at my school,but now I have a 7th grader( new 8th grader) taking my spot.DOUBLE REEDS RULE!!!!!!! 4laugh
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Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:27 am
~Goth, goth~ The first one doesn't seem like much of a "What the hell?" moment. Were there any band members switching to bassoon? That's what it sounds like the BD meant.
As for my BD, he sometimes forgets the bassoon, but, then again, he sometimes misses people for when they're practicing one part that several instruments play the same. ~Loli, loli!~
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Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:56 am
It seems pretty common for Bassoon parts to be forgotten with the Trombone or Baritone parts. My BD forgets me all the time. But at the same time I got a huge compliment from him. He had the Tuba and Baritone practice a part. They couldn't get the part and I raised my hand and told him that I had the part too. He then told me that he wasn't worried about me and knew I had my part. Yay. Then when the Tuba and Baritone still didn't get their part he had me demonstrate.
But as for WTF moments, my BD always forgets that Bassoons are Double Reed instruments. We were practicing before a concert and my reed broke. He asked for all low woodwind to play, and actually remembered me. We started, and he cut us off asking why I didn't play. "Reed broke" "Just try it" "It won't work" "Let me see... Why are there two reeds?" I just shook my head
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Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:40 pm
OMG! you read my mind!! its tough being a bassoonist!!! these people dont know anything about us or the bassoon. Whats worse, they treat bassoonists like a totally different species!!! an outcast sometimes!!! i am my own section and sometimes im not even considered a woodwind for crying out loud!!! scream gah!!! One time a professional bassoon player preformed for my band and instead of playing whole notes and bass lines (which everyone beleives that the bassoon is only capable of doing so ) stressed , she ripped through her music like a freakin' amazing maniac!!!(go bassoons!) the first thing everyone did was turn and look at me (simultaneously) with their jaws gaping. One creep even had the guts to ask me "Bassoons can do that??!!" ugh!! i wanted to slap him silly!!! evil
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Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:55 pm
I think it's because the bassoon is such a rare entity, BDs sometimes forget they even have one! =P
We have ONE, and he's the only one we've had in a long while (minus my friend that was also principal tuba). The orchestra director is sad if he doesn't show for rehearsals, though. The BD shows more love to the oboe player, though.
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Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 1:58 pm
I don't play bassoon, but I am forgotten a lot. During our band banquet we get our awards and our BD was naming off the four of us for the sax quartet he forgot to put my name on the paper.
"Soprano sax: Trevor Bowling, Alto sax: Blake Kusiak, Tenor sax: Taylor Hunt...oh and, uh...Bari sax: Megan Taylor. My bad, I forgot to put the name on the paper." stare
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