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SoViEtTaNkT34
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:38 pm
Lord Comrade-X
SoViEtTaNkT34
Lord Comrade-X
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Coming from a family with a father who used to be in the DPRK's military, mainly under Kim Il Sung I have a sorta odd background on this sort of thing. From what he talks about it my father always praises Kim Il Sung as a very brilliant man and revolutionary though seems far more critical of his son especially in light of recent developments.

So though its a lesser known form of Marxist thought I just wanted to know what everyone's thoughts were on Juche both its theory and practice in North Korea and elsewhere. And specific opinions on Kim Il Sung and Kim Jung Il are fine too.

Sorry I havent been too active but hopefully this thread should be fun. ^_^


It was definitely less militaristic too be sure, and the economy would be better off. Like others have said I think Kim Sul-Song would have been a much better choice, she's an economist and thus much more of a realist. Also under her reign we would see some of the money currently going to military go to workers. Of course if North Korea does complete its nuclear program than there will also be a likely reduction in troop numbers because they won't be as much of need to defend against the imperialists. The weapons will make the Bourgeoisie will think twice about an invasion.

Though I'm surprised the transition is going so quickly, didn't it take about a decade of two for Kim IL Sung to prepare for Kim Jung IL to take the reigns? I'm not sure what to make of Kim's youngest son, because I know pretty much nothing about him. I wish there was more information coming out of North Korea, but I haven't found much.


Well Kim Jong Il is trying to downsize the military anyways seeing as attaining nuclear arms helps in doing such an act. The main issue is that the military is above the party or is actually is the party depending upon how you look at it. Since the military first policy in 1996 and prior the military has had a huge role. Thus the structure in my opinion would be the Family, Military, Party...its a triangle of power... thus they have to appease the military or "save face" which nuclear armaments allow.

Nobody really knows about Kim's youngest son... but atleast its not his oldest.


Ah that explains it. Yeah his oldest had that inncident back in Japan, not great for the propaganda.


Not at all.. and now im hearing its not Kim Jong-Un but Kim Jong Il's middle child Kim Jong-chul. There is also fear that a Brother and law could also start taking the lead wink  
PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:46 pm
SoViEtTaNkT34
Lord Comrade-X
SoViEtTaNkT34
Lord Comrade-X
Corean Crusader
Coming from a family with a father who used to be in the DPRK's military, mainly under Kim Il Sung I have a sorta odd background on this sort of thing. From what he talks about it my father always praises Kim Il Sung as a very brilliant man and revolutionary though seems far more critical of his son especially in light of recent developments.

So though its a lesser known form of Marxist thought I just wanted to know what everyone's thoughts were on Juche both its theory and practice in North Korea and elsewhere. And specific opinions on Kim Il Sung and Kim Jung Il are fine too.

Sorry I havent been too active but hopefully this thread should be fun. ^_^


It was definitely less militaristic too be sure, and the economy would be better off. Like others have said I think Kim Sul-Song would have been a much better choice, she's an economist and thus much more of a realist. Also under her reign we would see some of the money currently going to military go to workers. Of course if North Korea does complete its nuclear program than there will also be a likely reduction in troop numbers because they won't be as much of need to defend against the imperialists. The weapons will make the Bourgeoisie will think twice about an invasion.

Though I'm surprised the transition is going so quickly, didn't it take about a decade of two for Kim IL Sung to prepare for Kim Jung IL to take the reigns? I'm not sure what to make of Kim's youngest son, because I know pretty much nothing about him. I wish there was more information coming out of North Korea, but I haven't found much.


Well Kim Jong Il is trying to downsize the military anyways seeing as attaining nuclear arms helps in doing such an act. The main issue is that the military is above the party or is actually is the party depending upon how you look at it. Since the military first policy in 1996 and prior the military has had a huge role. Thus the structure in my opinion would be the Family, Military, Party...its a triangle of power... thus they have to appease the military or "save face" which nuclear armaments allow.

Nobody really knows about Kim's youngest son... but atleast its not his oldest.


Ah that explains it. Yeah his oldest had that inncident back in Japan, not great for the propaganda.


Not at all.. and now im hearing its not Kim Jong-Un but Kim Jong Il's middle child Kim Jong-chul. There is also fear that a Brother and law could also start taking the lead wink


And I thought my family had problems, there life reminds of one of those horrible sitcoms, except with more purges.  

Lord Comrade-X


Le Pere Duchesne
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:55 pm
Lord Comrade-X
And I thought my family had problems, there life reminds of one of those horrible sitcoms, except with more purges.


:Muuuuuuuuuuuum! Timmy has sauce in his water pistol and he's shoooooting me!

:Yes dead. Timmy! Stop that now, don't make me send you to Siberia!

:Yes Maaaaaaaa.  
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 3:05 pm
Louis-Auguste Robespierre
Lord Comrade-X
And I thought my family had problems, there life reminds of one of those horrible sitcoms, except with more purges.


:Muuuuuuuuuuuum! Timmy has sauce in his water pistol and he's shoooooting me!

:Yes dead. Timmy! Stop that now, don't make me send you to Siberia!

:Yes Maaaaaaaa.


I would watch it.  

Lord Comrade-X

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