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| Yes, all secular (non-Christian) music is bad |
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| No type of music (or any other media for that matter) is bad for you |
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The Committee Staff Autobiographer
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 Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 8:07 pm
I personally think that anything that distracts you and takes away your focus from worshiping God and thinking like him is bad for you, even if the lyrics are not bad. Same goes for other things television or internet, anything not of God that enters you voluntarily widens the gap between your relationship with him because you put things in your life that is not of him, but of the world. Not to say that all secular things are bad (only the obviously bad ones), but you should fill your mind with things of God above all else, even if that might not be as "fun".
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 2:58 am
o_O
I don't believe we should separate ourselves from activities that aren't inherently with the Christian content, as long as they are not sinful.
I'm not sure how to express my attitude to this... But it is that our Christianity should be somehow incorporated in everything we do and we should glorify God in all aspects of our life. But that may not mean having to choose only music, movies, reading material etc. only with Christian content. God is not that restricted and I believe that neither should we.
We are a part of this world and we are placed in different positions, also in schools or jobs that don't inherently contain religion but that doesn't mean that we can't work in them in a holy way or that we are worse Christians if we don't work as e.g. pastors. I believe that the presence of Holy spirit within us is transcending in all aspects of our life, even those involving such "common and not special" activities like work, learning, spending time with family and friends, and also various kinds of hobbies and relaxing activities.
To the subject of music itself, I definitely won't reject music I like just because the authors aren't Christians or just because the lyrics don't have a Christian content. First, generally in music what I concentrate on is the music itself rather than lyrics (even if the lyrics happen to be dumb I don't really mind if the music is good), and second sometimes even lyrics written by non Christians can bring something inspiring and encouraging for me and my life.
I don't feel comfortable with lyrics that are clearly aimed to offending God and Christianity and I don't listen to such songs.
However, as for lyrics that may not be so nice and express negative emotions (without the said attack against God), I don't mind them because I don't think it must be always wrong to express one's negative emotions honestly when one is feeling them. They are a part of human beings too, as we aren't perfect. Even David in some of his Psalms was expressing his grief, despair and even agressive attitudes to his enemies. The hatred towards enemies is not right, but still such things have been perserved in the psalms and they show David as an imperfect human being like we are too. Thus I don't think we should judge authors of songs that express negative emotions, at times they are just a part of being a human. I don't specifically prefer or choose songs with such "not nice" lyrics, but I don't reject the whole songs or stop listening to it just because of them, and sometimes there are times when I find comfort in them, specially the times when I myself don't feel good.
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The Committee Staff Autobiographer
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:19 pm
Luz Melian o_O I don't believe we should separate ourselves from activities that aren't inherently with the Christian content, as long as they are not sinful. I'm not sure how to express my attitude to this... But it is that our Christianity should be somehow incorporated in everything we do and we should glorify God in all aspects of our life. But that may not mean having to choose only music, movies, reading material etc. only with Christian content. God is not that restricted and I believe that neither should we. We are a part of this world and we are placed in different positions, also in schools or jobs that don't inherently contain religion but that doesn't mean that we can't work in them in a holy way or that we are worse Christians if we don't work as e.g. pastors. I believe that the presence of Holy spirit within us is transcending in all aspects of our life, even those involving such "common and not special" activities like work, learning, spending time with family and friends, and also various kinds of hobbies and relaxing activities. To the subject of music itself, I definitely won't reject music I like just because the authors aren't Christians or just because the lyrics don't have a Christian content. First, generally in music what I concentrate on is the music itself rather than lyrics (even if the lyrics happen to be dumb I don't really mind if the music is good), and second sometimes even lyrics written by non Christians can bring something inspiring and encouraging for me and my life. I don't feel comfortable with lyrics that are clearly aimed to offending God and Christianity and I don't listen to such songs. However, as for lyrics that may not be so nice and express negative emotions (without the said attack against God), I don't mind them because I don't think it must be always wrong to express one's negative emotions honestly when one is feeling them. They are a part of human beings too, as we aren't perfect. Even David in some of his Psalms was expressing his grief, despair and even agressive attitudes to his enemies. The hatred towards enemies is not right, but still such things have been perserved in the psalms and they show David as an imperfect human being like we are too. Thus I don't think we should judge authors of songs that express negative emotions, at times they are just a part of being a human. I don't specifically prefer or choose songs with such "not nice" lyrics, but I don't reject the whole songs or stop listening to it just because of them, and sometimes there are times when I find comfort in them, specially the times when I myself don't feel good. Lance D Anderson Not to say that all secular things are bad (only the obviously bad ones), but you should fill your mind with things of God above all else, even if that might not be as "fun". Listening "only" to the music and not the lyrics, which often times advocates sinful nature, is just as bad as a movie with it in it or being around people like that. ] "Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?" - 2 Corinthians 6:14 We need to strive to live like Christ and in his favor, by rebuking sin (not necessarily secular).
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 8:40 am
" lyrics, which often times advocates sinful nature" ? What exactly do you mean by this?? You're kind of making it sound if non Christians are incorporated devils. Yet just because they aren't Christians it doesn't mean that their lyrics can't ever be meaningful and inspiring. Though like I said, what usually matters to me more is the music itself so the lyrics usually don't bother me even if they aren't very meaningful.
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The Committee Staff Autobiographer
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 8:54 am
Luz Melian " lyrics, which often times advocates sinful nature" ? What exactly do you mean by this?? You're kind of making it sound if non Christians are incorporated devils. Yet just because they aren't Christians it doesn't mean that their lyrics can't ever be meaningful and inspiring. Though like I said, what usually matters to me more is the music itself so the lyrics usually don't bother me even if they aren't very meaningful. Apparently you are once again choosing to see what you want to see, trying to justify everything you say is right. Why don't you re-read it and pay attention to what I was saying, such as the word "often" and not the word " always" in your quote of me. If you think that it's okay to listen and take in any and everything that's displeasing to God (once again, I'm talking about sinful things, not all secular things), then you are sorely mistaken and are heading down a dangerous path.
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:36 pm
Are you by any chance related to Victum Soul? By the way Luz you might be able to take me as an example here. I listened to all kinds of music and i then lef tthe church for Satanism. wait, why am i helping the Zealot music is music listen to everything.
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 9:04 pm
Music=life
I'm not saying that some music doesn't have bad language. I'm saying that without music, even if it's just my hand hitting my belly, I would die. Literally.
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 5:51 am
Music is music. If you don't let it affect you it won't.
two examples (on a bit of a tangent and probably don't make sense...but oh well).
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Blair witch project.
I was told that because of my family's problems with mental health I would only need to watch it once for it to completely screw me up. I'll be watching it tonoght for the 50th time and I've still not lost it.
Why?
Because I didn't let it affect me.
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'The scene'
My mum said that if I hung around with my brothers (metalheads through and through) and friends (mix of rockers and goths) I'd end up like them: on drugs and wasting my life...it'll be 5 years since I became involved with 'the scene' (as my mother calls it) and I'm the only person to have made it as far as I have in my family...in college and applying for university in less than a years time.
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:52 pm
Frankly, I just do not enjoy a lot of Christian music (outside of gospel, which I enjoy)
I would take Christian Death over Chris Muglia any day, regardless of the deity whom I swear worship to.
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Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 5:21 pm
You have to look at this issue with two thoughts in mind: Mental & Spirtual. I went to a christian school at one time with the whole,"Listening to music will give you a one way ticket to hell" attitude. Of course this was the school that when I said, "Oh my gosh" they said I was going to hell for using the Lords name in vain.
Anyway the two aspects: Mental. Knowing what's right & what's wrong. We know what it is. Where not stupid(well...)we no what's not okay. Sure we all have different fews here but I think the principal is the same.
Spirtual. One we don't know what God wants us to listen too. God didn't come down to me recently and say,"Hey Lynxie I don't like rock/pop/metal/alternative/...and neither should you" hasn't happened and it most likely never will. Sure some lyrics aren't exactly christian, but you know if we never had anything to pull us away from God we'd never become closer to him when we came back.
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Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 9:04 pm
lost_silme Music=life I'm not saying that some music doesn't have bad language. I'm saying that without music, even if it's just my hand hitting my belly, I would die. Literally. I know, I totally agree!! I do not believe that secular music is "evil" or "bad". That would mean that I am "evil" or bad. And I don't think that way of myself at all sad I absolutely love Disturbed, Stone Temple Pilots, Apocalyptica, Nightwish, Within Temptation, Kamelot, DragonForce, Lyriel, Lacuna Coil, The Birthday Massacre, Zeromancer, Silica Gel, Blaqk Audio, Lovex, Firewind, Neuroticfish, and tons and tons of J-pop/J-Rock and Spanish pop and techno/dance and classical... even smooth jazz and 80s! I've tried but I cannot stick to just one genre of music. It just drives me nuts =-( But Kudos if you're actually able to only listen to Christian/Gospel exclusively. That's like... mad hardcore. I know that there are awesome avant-garde Christian metal/rock/techno groups out there like Tierra Santa, E Nomine, Underoath, Tourniquet, Trouble, Stryper, As I Lay Dying, Living Sacrifice, 12 Stones, and of course the traditional Christian contemporary singers like Michael W. Smith, Casting Crowns, Phillips Craig & Dean, etc. All are awesome, but I have more respect for the Christian groups over my favorite secular groups. ^^ The only thing I find bad is groups like Amon Amarth who bash Christians in general, or any band/singer who promotes rape, racism, or hatred by ignorance.
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 7:46 am
So, the people who say "music is their life" are putting that before God? Yeah, that's real spiritual. Christianity isn't some cult anyone can join because it gives them security that they'll automatically go to heaven or to just make them feel good. If you don't follow the bible and it's teachings, then what are you from pagans? Don't they also read the bible and believe in God? The simply choose not to follow his teachings. Music is meant to praise God (and of course it doesn't matter what style of music it is, where does it give a specific type in the bible?). It can be for enjoyment, but not when it hinders your relationship with God. If taking in "bad things" and not being affected by them (by choosing or otherwise), then you weren't in the right mindset to begin with. Worshiping God is being a living sacrifice, by following his teachings even if they are not worldly fun for you. Reevaluate what you're doing, because God either wants you totally for him (and striving to be better) or not, he doesn't want wishy-washy people you try and get into the "religion" of Christianity by seeing it as only a religion of specific rules and not a relationship that commands your obedience to his Word.
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The Committee Staff Autobiographer
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 8:10 pm
Um actually Christianity is infact a cult that anyone can join and if they could infact go straight up provided they converted on thier deathbed.
Most of us don't read the bible if we do it's for information, as for believing in God? if they did why would we be following other religions? in my personal case of Satanism I can absolutely say that God does nto exist and niether does the devil so i think you may be mistaken on your interpretation of pagan beliefs.
If music is mean specifically to praise God please explain to me why every single culture onthe planet has muisical traditions regardless of wheter or not they are christian?
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 8:56 pm
Lazarus The Resurected Um actually Christianity is infact a cult that anyone can join and if they could infact go straight up provided they converted on thier deathbed. Most of us don't read the bible if we do it's for information, as for believing in God? if they did why would we be following other religions? in my personal case of Satanism I can absolutely say that God does nto exist and niether does the devil so i think you may be mistaken on your interpretation of pagan beliefs. If music is mean specifically to praise God please explain to me why every single culture onthe planet has muisical traditions regardless of wheter or not they are christian? Why are people so dense? Why don't you re-read what i actually wrote to see what it really is. And not all pagans are the same, it doesn't matter what you do/don't personally believe, it's to make a point that just "believing" something doesn't mean anything If you have questions of what is right and wrong/truth and fiction, go check back on the other topic reagarding satanism.
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The Committee Staff Autobiographer
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 9:01 pm
Lance D Anderson Lazarus The Resurected Um actually Christianity is infact a cult that anyone can join and if they could infact go straight up provided they converted on thier deathbed. Most of us don't read the bible if we do it's for information, as for believing in God? if they did why would we be following other religions? in my personal case of Satanism I can absolutely say that God does nto exist and niether does the devil so i think you may be mistaken on your interpretation of pagan beliefs. If music is mean specifically to praise God please explain to me why every single culture onthe planet has muisical traditions regardless of wheter or not they are christian? Why are people so dense? Why don't you re-read what i actually wrote to see what it really is. And not all pagans are the same, it doesn't matter what you do/don't personally believe, it's to make a point that just "believing" something doesn't mean anything If you have questions of what is right and wrong/truth and fiction, go check back on the other topic reagarding satanism. um actually you generalized all pagans and you were mistaken, no pagan beileves that "Jesus is Lord" or they'd be christian. some are generous enough to entertain the thought that he can sit with thier gods in whatever pantheon but he is not the be all and end all. Call me dense again i dare you. now for a quick look in the mirror you do realize that your beliefs also fall under the stipulation of your post. ""believeing" something doesn't mean anyhting" I have checked that post and i saw nothing to impress me.
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