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Budou Bushi

PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:11 am


discuss:What is the best asset to a fighter. no style is specified just what do you think is the most important physical skill: speed, strength, agility, ect.

i would have to say speed. if your fast enough the strongest fighter can't hit you his power can't do anything. also if your attacks are fast enough he won't be able to react/counter.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:32 am


snake79797
discuss:What is the best asset to a fighter. no style is specified just what do you think is the most important physical skill: speed, strength, agility, ect.

i would have to say speed. if your fast enough the strongest fighter can't hit you his power can't do anything. also if your attacks are fast enough he won't be able to react/counter.


Lets examine that claim... what happened to the little speedy agile kid in the movie Sin City when the big guy handcuffed himself to him? point made.

In general not one aspect is a great asset. pure strength won't help against somone with more speed, more speed won't do good without the strength or precision to bypass strong defenses and being agile only helps you in running away from a well rounded fighter. if I HAD to choose one I'd say other for durability.

Dante Reaver


Budou Bushi

PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:17 pm


Dante Reaver
snake79797
discuss:What is the best asset to a fighter. no style is specified just what do you think is the most important physical skill: speed, strength, agility, ect.

i would have to say speed. if your fast enough the strongest fighter can't hit you his power can't do anything. also if your attacks are fast enough he won't be able to react/counter.


Lets examine that claim... what happened to the little speedy agile kid in the movie Sin City when the big guy handcuffed himself to him? point made.

In general not one aspect is a great asset. pure strength won't help against somone with more speed, more speed won't do good without the strength or precision to bypass strong defenses and being agile only helps you in running away from a well rounded fighter. if I HAD to choose one I'd say other for durability.


sadly i've never watched sin city stressed good point though lots of fights end because somebody got tired and the other was more conditioned.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:08 pm


the ability not to get into a fight in the first place mrgreen and second to that, i guess the ability to read your opponent. Its harder than it sounds for me >.<

Iconised Ghost


chocosamurai

PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:35 pm


i agree with iconised ghost. especially about reading your opponent-if you read them right you can react accordingly and apply what iv learned called san sappou[has anyone heard of this?]

-kill the mind, kill the spirit? kill the sword [i don't know if theres an order to this but alot of this can apply to the question-sword could be any weapon/tool]

killing the mind is overcoming your opponents confidence so they don't believe in themselves-when you give up you lose, when you hesitate its opportunity for you/opponent etc. if you keep on top of their moves so that they are unable to get you because you already know they are coming. they may start to doubt themselves or try durastic measures to get out of letting you know what they are doing..if they realise they are letting you know what they are doing at all..

killing the spirit is eventual of confidence... and killing the sword is disabling them from using sword/tool -through what iv already discussed or force...

but anyway it also works vice versa-not letting your opponent read your attacks.
[this is difficult...it is harder to do than to say in words]
PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:12 am


Iconised Ghost
the ability not to get into a fight in the first place mrgreen

Strongly disagree with that.

Best fighters are people that enjoy it, seek it out and revel in it.

Simply put, those with "fighting spirit"

DarklingGlory
Crew


Iconised Ghost

PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:56 am


DarklingGlory
Iconised Ghost
the ability not to get into a fight in the first place mrgreen

Strongly disagree with that.

Best fighters are people that enjoy it, seek it out and revel in it.

Simply put, those with "fighting spirit"


You can have a fighting spirit without seeking out a fight. Looking to have your a** kicked isnt a good idea because there is always someone out there who can beat you. And you can only learn from what you live through
PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:14 am


Iconised Ghost
DarklingGlory
Iconised Ghost
the ability not to get into a fight in the first place mrgreen

Strongly disagree with that.

Best fighters are people that enjoy it, seek it out and revel in it.

Simply put, those with "fighting spirit"


You can have a fighting spirit without seeking out a fight. Looking to have your a** kicked isnt a good idea because there is always someone out there who can beat you. And you can only learn from what you live through

Exactly. And decent fighters have been in fights. Looking to find the person that can your a** kicked is exactly the attitude good fighters have, because they are looking for that person that can beat them. Even if they do get beat down, its something they learn from, and become a better fighter because of it.
Being all "I practise the art of fighting without fighting" is the type of bullshit that people spout, to cover up how s**t they are.
There are people that no longer feel the need to seek out physical competition, but if they are decent, it's because they did in the past.
When I say seek out the fight. I dont mean go beat up randoms in the street. I mean, actively enjoy sparring/scrapping/rolling/competition etc
Win or lose

DarklingGlory
Crew


Iconised Ghost

PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 4:49 pm


DarklingGlory
Iconised Ghost
DarklingGlory
Iconised Ghost
the ability not to get into a fight in the first place mrgreen

Strongly disagree with that.

Best fighters are people that enjoy it, seek it out and revel in it.

Simply put, those with "fighting spirit"


You can have a fighting spirit without seeking out a fight. Looking to have your a** kicked isnt a good idea because there is always someone out there who can beat you. And you can only learn from what you live through

Exactly. And decent fighters have been in fights. Looking to find the person that can your a** kicked is exactly the attitude good fighters have, because they are looking for that person that can beat them. Even if they do get beat down, its something they learn from, and become a better fighter because of it.
Being all "I practise the art of fighting without fighting" is the type of bullshit that people spout, to cover up how s**t they are.
There are people that no longer feel the need to seek out physical competition, but if they are decent, it's because they did in the past.
When I say seek out the fight. I dont mean go beat up randoms in the street. I mean, actively enjoy sparring/scrapping/rolling/competition etc
Win or lose


Sorry, i thought you meant beating up randoms in the street xd I was like "thats a bit extreme- if you dont die, you'll probably be arrested eek " Now that we are on the same page i agree mrgreen of course practice makes perfect whee my point was just that you dont want to get out of your depth and be in a situation where you might get killed >.< enjoying sparring etc is completely different

Sorry about that mrgreen
PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:16 am


Stamina and Endurance
1. They can take more damage
2. They can be faster, longer
3. They can hit harder, longer

Soul Fighters Leg Kicks


Tatsuya_Kawajiri

PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 4:02 am


Having those intangibles, the most important being an innate acumen for development of not only physical traits, but also technical ability.

I win.
PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 7:35 pm


Tatsuya_Kawajiri
Having those intangibles, the most important being an innate acumen for development of not only physical traits, but also technical ability.

I win.
eek well, didn't see that one coming... from you any way

Jae Sung


Soul Fighters Leg Kicks

PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:33 pm


Tatsuya_Kawajiri
Having those intangibles, the most important being an innate acumen for development of not only physical traits, but also technical ability.

I win.

4. Maintaining better form, longer

Stamina wins
PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:15 pm


Soul Fighters Leg Kicks
Tatsuya_Kawajiri
Having those intangibles, the most important being an innate acumen for development of not only physical traits, but also technical ability.

I win.

4. Maintaining better form, longer

Stamina wins


That still comes from training, and some people just can't maintain a high pace, wether it be from an inability to maintain the mental focus to consistently train, maintain that "fire", or something more unfortunate like Hallman's inability to maintain a decent blood sugar level.

I still win, ********.

Tatsuya_Kawajiri


Nenyond

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:49 pm


Coming from a Kenpo background....Coordination.
Hitting what you want, when you want as often as you damn well please.
We use three or more limbs to deliver the whoopins, and that takes a great deal of training and coordination to pull off autonomously. But when it happens....holy s**t. You haven't lived until you've been both smacked in the gob and kicked in the inside of the thigh, you don't know what to grab first, then while you're trying to decide, you get another knuckle in the noodle, and a good kick in the belly on the way down.

So, yeah, coordination.
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