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Nanami.x.Yuki

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:17 am


So whats your say on this? I trid to have a positive outlook, but I just can't. From the articles I have read it's not going the great, one they said 'kinderwhore' was a sub culture in loli and even though at EGL community we have stressed enough that loli is not cosplay but a lifestyle, tokyopop keeps on mixing those two up. If anyone is interested I can post the articles.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:32 am


Please post them.

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boconnotto

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:06 am


My opinion on the matter is just what it was when I first heard about the releases:

They should translate, not Americanize. They're trying to appeal to the cosplay and anime fans, and while doing so alienating and pissing off the lolita community. They're just, over all, pissing off the biggest business potential they have without even trying. That fashion show that they held at NYAF was pretty awful, too.

Out of the photos I've seen of it, there was only one "designer" I liked--and what the hell is with all the Blasphemina's Closet promotion from these companies? Her clothes look like they were ripped out of ugly 60s tableclothes or couch covers.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:47 am


huh, I've never seen Blasphemina's Closet's clothes.. I think she's gonna be at Anime Detour with an art table in MN (which I'm going to too, and I have an art table :3 ) I'll have to go check her stuff out

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Bunnybam

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:05 pm


please post the articles I'm really curious to see what they say
PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:48 pm



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Cross06

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:49 pm


Bunnybam
please post the articles I'm really curious to see what they say

Ditto
PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:54 pm


Cross06
Bunnybam
please post the articles I'm really curious to see what they say

Ditto

I just posted the links to the whole article and past TokyoPop things related with Lolita

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:45 pm


I lost faith in Tokyopop a LONG time ago.

I'll probably end up thumbing through it in the bookstore to see if really IS crap, but there's no way I'd actually BUY it.
They're just trying to make money. So I'm afraid they don't really have real lolitas in mind.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:54 pm


I would have to agree with the statement that TokyoPop is bringing the magazine over for the cosplayers in America, not the Lolitas. I doubt that there are enough Lolitas in America to keep such an endeavor going on it's own w/out the support of other costume players IMO.

And sorry, I haven't read the articles in a while, but weren't they going to sell them in Hot Topic stores as well?

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 7:43 pm


okay may I ask because I have no idea, but what on earth is "kinderwhore"?? Everyone on egl seemed very offened by it and I think I'm offended too but what on earth is it?????

I'm really really disapointed at this point, I really thought this could be something great crying I still want to see how it looks published but I'm certainly not expecting anything great.... who knows though, maybe tokyopop will magically turn it around and it will suddenly be great.. probably not buy maybe sweatdrop
PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:13 pm


... okay, when I first saw this topic I was excited... I've been wanting a GLB printed in English, but not if they are going to be adding "new material". What I want, and I'm sure the rest of the Lolita community in America wants this too, is an honest to goodness direct translation from the original book. They shouldn't go and mess with our fashion and start misrepresenting it to those who are just getting in to it. I know that I'm no "expert" in Lolita fashion but those articles hurt my brain and made me want to cry... "kinderwhore" what in the world was she talking about?! What style was she trying to say there? Where do you come up with kinderwhore anyway?

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:39 pm


-.- I was the one whom posted on EGL earlier whom actually called Tokyopop and typed up the entire conversation that I had with the woman about that. They are working closely with members from EGL, Japanese gothic lolita's, and they are working hard to make sure that the translated bibles will be something we can be proud of. Please don't tell me everyone is still stressing over it. We have La vie en Rose. What more could we want. If Tokyopop DOES ******** up, we are fortunate to already know how to do it right, and we have the original bibles anyway.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:01 pm


Tsuwabuki
-.- I was the one whom posted on EGL earlier whom actually called Tokyopop and typed up the entire conversation that I had with the woman about that. They are working closely with members from EGL, Japanese gothic lolita's, and they are working hard to make sure that the translated bibles will be something we can be proud of. Please don't tell me everyone is still stressing over it. We have La vie en Rose. What more could we want. If Tokyopop DOES ******** up, we are fortunate to already know how to do it right, and we have the original bibles anyway.

La Vie en Rose closed down. It was too much of a strain on the creator's pocketbook and just generally stressful for her, so she dropped it about a month and a half ago. Also, the articles that TokyoPop has released as previews are absolutely atrocious and poorly researched.

boconnotto


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:29 pm


Tsuwabuki
-.- I was the one whom posted on EGL earlier whom actually called Tokyopop and typed up the entire conversation that I had with the woman about that. They are working closely with members from EGL, Japanese gothic lolita's, and they are working hard to make sure that the translated bibles will be something we can be proud of. Please don't tell me everyone is still stressing over it. We have La vie en Rose. What more could we want. If Tokyopop DOES ******** up, we are fortunate to already know how to do it right, and we have the original bibles anyway.
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lol What members? You mean the ones that hate their guts now? They never tried to contact Victoria from La Dauphine after PMX, she hates them now, they had Missmeganmaude for the Tokyopop fashion show at NYAF and she doesn't like them now either, speaking that they were terribly unorganized and were telling her things last minute.

Tokyopop is a bunch of bullcrap, they've said things to complaining people about talking to some members that didn't even happen. Oh sure, they've been trying to get all over Sakurafairy about their Bible, but what progress is that making?


lol, This is why I'm glad that my panel topped all three of their events TOGETHER. They fail at "trying their best". They say the same damn thing about G&L Bible that they assured me about NYAF. They lie. Horribly.


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