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 Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:38 pm
I was waiting for my class to begin Thursday and happened upon one of the school's newspapers. The headline, "GAP says 'Abortion is genocide'" I had to read it, and wasn't shocked at all at the poor logic and further bullshit being sad by GAP. The article even displayed an image of one of GAP's head morons standing in front of one of the ever so elusive fake abortion propaganda billboards. How disgusted I was to read the remark, "So we should just kill anyone who inconveniences our lives?" I love how they compare the hardships pregnancy and being a parent bring onto a woman to that of the hardships a fruit fly causes her when it lands on her shoulder. Here's a link to an article I found online about the topic. http://www.abortionno.org/Resources/abortion.htmlSo damned disgusting. Lifers will do anything to turn women into monsters.
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:43 pm
That propaganda caused me some Lulz. Of course they will stop at nothing to make women seem like monsters, emotional appeals and "WHAT IF THEY ABORTIONED YOU!??!!" seem to be the only crutches they can lean on. Sad thing is the uninformed masses are easily lead by lie and misinformation and you're left with people claiming that "Silent scream" is actual evidence other than basically being "Watch watch watch...I poked it and it moved so there"
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 2:06 pm
Ugh! Not these loons again...
Crack a dictionary, folks. Learn the meaning of the word "genocide." You too, PETA.
I see this as dehumanization of people who have actually been through attempted and completed genocide. If I were a Holocaust survivor, I would bomb that s**t (or maybe just send them an angry letter...).
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 9:42 am
Quote: Pictures also make clear to people of conscience the fact that abortion is an evil whose magnitude is comparable to that of any "crime against humanity."
Oh, I liked that. ABORTION IS BAD BECAUSE IT'S NOT FULL OF KITTENS AND RAINBOWS, AND IF YOU DISAGREE YOU'RE A SOULESS MONSTER.
Yeah. Mmmhmm. Okay. lol
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 2:52 pm
Deformography Ugh! Not these loons again... Crack a dictionary, folks. Learn the meaning of the word "genocide." You too, PETA.I see this as dehumanization of people who have actually been through attempted and completed genocide. If I were a Holocaust survivor, I would bomb that s**t (or maybe just send them an angry letter...). I used to be really radical in my vegetarianism and I honestly believed that slaughterhouses were comparable to concentration camps. Then, I started to realize that PETA was doing the same dehumanizing, insulting, ridiculous s**t as the lifers and I've had a problem with them ever since. It still bothers me that I accepted their meat-holocaust comparisons, though.
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 10:28 pm
PhaedraMcSpiffy Deformography Ugh! Not these loons again... Crack a dictionary, folks. Learn the meaning of the word "genocide." You too, PETA.I see this as dehumanization of people who have actually been through attempted and completed genocide. If I were a Holocaust survivor, I would bomb that s**t (or maybe just send them an angry letter...). I used to be really radical in my vegetarianism and I honestly believed that slaughterhouses were comparable to concentration camps. Then, I started to realize that PETA was doing the same dehumanizing, insulting, ridiculous s**t as the lifers and I've had a problem with them ever since. It still bothers me that I accepted their meat-holocaust comparisons, though. it's closer to genocide than killing a bunch of god damned unwanted fetii. >.> not that either of them are even remotely close, but i care more for animals than i ever will for a ******** fetus that i or another woman never wanted in the first place. isn't there a Holocaust surviver that runs a clinic in Vancouver? maybe not Vancouver, but i think he's somewhere up north. i bet these kinds of things piss him off...
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:31 am
Quote: Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood, declared war on "unwanted" children with her motto, "every child a wanted child." Yes... obvioiusly a declaration of war... rolleyes Quote: Webster's New World Encyclopedia, Prentice Hall General Reference, 1992, defines "genocide" as "The deliberate and systematic destruction of a national, racial, religious, political, cultural, ethnic, or other group defined by the exterminators as undesirable." That definition readily applies to abortion. The "national group" is American "unwanted" unborn children and they are now being destroyed at the rate of nearly 1 out of every 3 conceived. They are being terminated in an elaborate network of killing centers. Okay, I have two major problems with this paragraph: 1. Where the hell are they coming up with these statistics? "elaborate network of killing centers" WTF?. 2. Now, I'm an english major (although you'd never know by my grammer and spellint redface ) And I'm all about creative textual interpretation, but it seems to me that what the lifers are doing here is...well, excessive. Not just excessive but down right bad analysis. Quote: The reason for the ubiquity of abortion is, in part, its universal availability. Abortion is legal through all 9 months of pregnancy in all 50 states. Universal Availability?!! I didnt know that it was universally available, I thought that there were many areas where clinics were shut down and women had no access to abortions, or that if they are lucky enough to live near one I thought that the cost was often times prohibitive... maybe I'm wrong, maybe the "elaborate network of killng centers" is alot more vast than most of us choicers ever knew.
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:51 pm
Peppermint Schnapps PhaedraMcSpiffy Deformography Ugh! Not these loons again... Crack a dictionary, folks. Learn the meaning of the word "genocide." You too, PETA.I see this as dehumanization of people who have actually been through attempted and completed genocide. If I were a Holocaust survivor, I would bomb that s**t (or maybe just send them an angry letter...). I used to be really radical in my vegetarianism and I honestly believed that slaughterhouses were comparable to concentration camps. Then, I started to realize that PETA was doing the same dehumanizing, insulting, ridiculous s**t as the lifers and I've had a problem with them ever since. It still bothers me that I accepted their meat-holocaust comparisons, though. it's closer to genocide than killing a bunch of god damned unwanted fetii. >.> not that either of them are even remotely close, but i care more for animals than i ever will for a ******** fetus that i or another woman never wanted in the first place. isn't there a Holocaust surviver that runs a clinic in Vancouver? maybe not Vancouver, but i think he's somewhere up north. i bet these kinds of things piss him off... Runs a clinic? He got abortion legalized in Canada. Also, it's Toronto, and his clinic was bombed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Morgentaler
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:47 pm
GAP? The company that's under fire right now for child labor? They're ones to talk about what's right and wrong! rolleyes
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Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:20 am
That GAP is a clothing company. This GAP is " Genocide Awareness Project", and as far as I know, they do nothing to spread awareness of real genocide or to help genocide victims, they just compare abortion to genocide and the holocaust. Also, this Jewish group is not a fan of such comparisons: http://rac.org/advocacy/issues/issuehol/index.cfm?#compQuote: In order to truly understand this comparison, let's consider how abortion was treated in Nazi Germany. By some yard-sticks, Adolph Hitler might have been labeled as "pro-life". He was outspoken in his opposition to abortion for German women, seeing them simply as the breeders for the Aryan master race he envisioned. While abortion had been widespread in Germany prior to the rise of Nazism, Hitler issued a law which made the act of helping in an abortion a penal offense.After promising in Mein Kampf to "to do away with the idea that what one does with one's own body is each individual's business," Hitler campaigned for an increased birth rate among German citizens, offering government loans to newlyweds, with abatements for each child produced. By also discrediting birth control and closing clinics which had dispensed contraceptives themselves, the Nazis succeeded in raising the German birth rate by 18% in 1934, with even greater gains in subsequent years. However, Hitler's "pro-life" attitude did not extend to non-Aryan peoples, nor to Aryans deemed to be less useful in German society. He began his eugenics campaign by having the "imperfect" elements of German society-the mentally and physically handicapped-forcibly sterilized. As documented in the Nuremberg trials, high ranking officials of the RuSHA (a NAZI group of medical officials) initiated a program which required "racial extermination" of pregnant women and suspected fathers to determine the "racial characteristics" of the offspring. In cases where the offspring was not "racially valuable", an abortion was ordered by the SS high-command. How could a government justify two divergent policies on abortion? How is it that abortion could be prohibited for some and mandated for others? The answer is, sadly, quite simple. The government was not required to explain: the citizens of Germany allowed themselves to become the tool of Hitler's will. The people abrogated their rights and responsibilities as individual moral decision-makers and allowed their own choices to be supplanted with those of the Fuhrer. With this information, can the freedom of choice over abortion in the United States be blindly compared with the Holocaust of World War II. The answer is simply no.
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Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:44 pm
Ah. This is why I shouldn't post right after waking up.
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:19 pm
PhaedraMcSpiffy Deformography Ugh! Not these loons again... Crack a dictionary, folks. Learn the meaning of the word "genocide." You too, PETA.I see this as dehumanization of people who have actually been through attempted and completed genocide. If I were a Holocaust survivor, I would bomb that s**t (or maybe just send them an angry letter...). I used to be really radical in my vegetarianism and I honestly believed that slaughterhouses were comparable to concentration camps. Then, I started to realize that PETA was doing the same dehumanizing, insulting, ridiculous s**t as the lifers and I've had a problem with them ever since. It still bothers me that I accepted their meat-holocaust comparisons, though. Lots of organizations can creatively use a loaded term to advance their agendas. >.< But the more outrageous it sounds, the more ridiculous the organization tends to look, too. Peta sucks, just because omnivores see its so mainstream does not mean that it represents all of vegetarianism and veganism. I go to a community of people that are vegan but most of them do not affiliate, do not support, and actually detest Peta for a number of reasons. I wonder though, if animals don't go through such a bad deal, though, I wonder how many people would like to reincarnate into a "food" animal for their next life. That sounds like so much fun, can't wait to go on THAT rollercoaster! wink
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:53 pm
Grip of Death PhaedraMcSpiffy Deformography Ugh! Not these loons again... Crack a dictionary, folks. Learn the meaning of the word "genocide." You too, PETA.I see this as dehumanization of people who have actually been through attempted and completed genocide. If I were a Holocaust survivor, I would bomb that s**t (or maybe just send them an angry letter...). I used to be really radical in my vegetarianism and I honestly believed that slaughterhouses were comparable to concentration camps. Then, I started to realize that PETA was doing the same dehumanizing, insulting, ridiculous s**t as the lifers and I've had a problem with them ever since. It still bothers me that I accepted their meat-holocaust comparisons, though. Lots of organizations can creatively use a loaded term to advance their agendas. >.< But the more outrageous it sounds, the more ridiculous the organization tends to look, too. Peta sucks, just because omnivores see its so mainstream does not mean that it represents all of vegetarianism and veganism. I go to a community of people that are vegan but most of them do not affiliate, do not support, and actually detest Peta for a number of reasons. I wonder though, if animals don't go through such a bad deal, though, I wonder how many people would like to reincarnate into a "food" animal for their next life. That sounds like so much fun, can't wait to go on THAT rollercoaster! wink xD I can see it now. "Wow! Look at all this free food! -munchmunch- Mmm...Delicious. And what's that? This is Japan! And they're....Massaging me? O_o' And I'm a cow? Wow! Cows are sacred in Jap-! *Gunshot in head*"
-horrible horrible person, shot in the face-
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:14 am
Solaris Lunarena Grip of Death PhaedraMcSpiffy Deformography Ugh! Not these loons again... Crack a dictionary, folks. Learn the meaning of the word "genocide." You too, PETA.I see this as dehumanization of people who have actually been through attempted and completed genocide. If I were a Holocaust survivor, I would bomb that s**t (or maybe just send them an angry letter...). I used to be really radical in my vegetarianism and I honestly believed that slaughterhouses were comparable to concentration camps. Then, I started to realize that PETA was doing the same dehumanizing, insulting, ridiculous s**t as the lifers and I've had a problem with them ever since. It still bothers me that I accepted their meat-holocaust comparisons, though. Lots of organizations can creatively use a loaded term to advance their agendas. >.< But the more outrageous it sounds, the more ridiculous the organization tends to look, too. Peta sucks, just because omnivores see its so mainstream does not mean that it represents all of vegetarianism and veganism. I go to a community of people that are vegan but most of them do not affiliate, do not support, and actually detest Peta for a number of reasons. I wonder though, if animals don't go through such a bad deal, though, I wonder how many people would like to reincarnate into a "food" animal for their next life. That sounds like so much fun, can't wait to go on THAT rollercoaster! wink xD I can see it now. "Wow! Look at all this free food! -munchmunch- Mmm...Delicious. And what's that? This is Japan! And they're....Massaging me? O_o' And I'm a cow? Wow! Cows are sacred in Jap-! *Gunshot in head*"
-horrible horrible person, shot in the face- Oftentimes, the myths are confused with the Reality.
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:15 am
PhaedraMcSpiffy That GAP is a clothing company. This GAP is " Genocide Awareness Project", and as far as I know, they do nothing to spread awareness of real genocide or to help genocide victims, they just compare abortion to genocide and the holocaust. Also, this Jewish group is not a fan of such comparisons: http://rac.org/advocacy/issues/issuehol/index.cfm?#compQuote: In order to truly understand this comparison, let's consider how abortion was treated in Nazi Germany. By some yard-sticks, Adolph Hitler might have been labeled as "pro-life". He was outspoken in his opposition to abortion for German women, seeing them simply as the breeders for the Aryan master race he envisioned. While abortion had been widespread in Germany prior to the rise of Nazism, Hitler issued a law which made the act of helping in an abortion a penal offense.After promising in Mein Kampf to "to do away with the idea that what one does with one's own body is each individual's business," Hitler campaigned for an increased birth rate among German citizens, offering government loans to newlyweds, with abatements for each child produced. By also discrediting birth control and closing clinics which had dispensed contraceptives themselves, the Nazis succeeded in raising the German birth rate by 18% in 1934, with even greater gains in subsequent years. However, Hitler's "pro-life" attitude did not extend to non-Aryan peoples, nor to Aryans deemed to be less useful in German society. He began his eugenics campaign by having the "imperfect" elements of German society-the mentally and physically handicapped-forcibly sterilized. As documented in the Nuremberg trials, high ranking officials of the RuSHA (a NAZI group of medical officials) initiated a program which required "racial extermination" of pregnant women and suspected fathers to determine the "racial characteristics" of the offspring. In cases where the offspring was not "racially valuable", an abortion was ordered by the SS high-command. How could a government justify two divergent policies on abortion? How is it that abortion could be prohibited for some and mandated for others? The answer is, sadly, quite simple. The government was not required to explain: the citizens of Germany allowed themselves to become the tool of Hitler's will. The people abrogated their rights and responsibilities as individual moral decision-makers and allowed their own choices to be supplanted with those of the Fuhrer. With this information, can the freedom of choice over abortion in the United States be blindly compared with the Holocaust of World War II. The answer is simply no. That is so true!!! I wish more of those morons would realise this and STOP comparing abortion to things that truely are tragic and horrible. Anyway even by their own definition abortion is not genocide. As far as I am aware fetuses are not a "group".
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