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Ju Ju La La Love

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:37 pm


Okay, the greatly condensed version. My two friends and I are wiccans. We all come from magickal blood lines, have been witches in many of our past lives (My soul has the rope marks to prove it) and are currently in the process of initiating the one friend and forming a coven. this past year on my birthday (March 10) we were on my porch reading fortunes and what not, when freaky s**t started happening with my one friend (Let's call her Jan). One thing to know about my yard, it's got some funky energies in it, and is frequented by some invisible entity we refer to as "The Ghoul." Well, our current theory is that the combined force of The Ghoul and the immense amount of magickal and psychic energy snapped a binding spell that had been put on Jan by her biological family (Jan was adopted as a baby). Years of pent up energy came pouring out all at once and sent Jan into a catatonic state which opened her up to an attempted possesion. My other friend (Let's call her Melanie) and I quickly went about getting her into a ward protected room and called her back to her body.

Well, now to the present. Somehow one of Jan's past lives has separated herself from the rest of Jan's consiousness and is periodically taking control of her body. All we can really do is wait out these possesions and plan how to deal with it (Jan is as of yet uninitiated and we want to settle this little problem before the ritual). Melanie and I have pieced together most of this other life's story, but now Melanie has gone to college and I'm left to handle this on a day to day basis. One of Jan's less appealing traits is a strak of arrogance, a streak which is amplified in this other personality. Today she came out and started talking about how if she wanted she could kill me (She fails to realize she's up against two pretty tough witches). I am slowly losing patience and want to solve this matter soon. I want to just call her out of Jan's body and seal her away in something, but I'm afraid of what that could do to Jan's Mind, heart and soul. Does anyone have any advice?
PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:31 pm


Well, they say that the past lives of someone has a big impact on who they are today. Technically by banishing it, you would be banishing a part of her. It's like trying to convince a multiple system to fuse into one sole mind/consciousness, it just isn't pretty.

HOWEVER, I feel the need to ask, are you sure that this is a past life of hers and not simply a spirit possessing her and claiming to be such?

I'm not sure what could be done if this was actually one of her past lives coming to the fore, but were that the case..then..I'm not quite so sure that you could banish her without banishing your friend..or a fragment of her.

Tell me more about this past life/facet of hers. What other traits does she have in common with your friend? What differences are there?

I may be no genius when it comes to these things, however, I'll gladly attempt to lend suggestions or input if I can.

Pageantry


fluffysteel2

PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:50 pm


this might be a wrong answer, but why not banish her 'past life' and use her soul as the 'foamy egg crate room' to keep her in? in my veiw it would seem that simple but i ave little if any experiance in anything like this so if you try it id recomend getting teh opinion of someone who knows a bit more.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:42 pm


At risk of sounding... rude...

There is a possibility that she has just gone crazy. She has gotten herself involved in things that she probably doesn't understand (like anyone could, really)... and as such her mind is inventing things to make it feel more "real" to her.

In regards to the whole "I could kill you if I wanted to..." That is a true statement. Magickally/spiritually strong or not, there is no real protection from the "Evocation of the .45"

Not even a bullet proof vest is really enough... and that's assuming she desn't have any assault rifles with either tracer rounds (not legal), or armor piercing rounds (legal).



Now back to the main idea:
Try taking her to a professional. A psychologist, not a psychiatrist, as a psychiatrist will immediately prescribe medication.

Alternative:
Go to her, and tell her that you have contacted a different coven, and that as you two are speaking, they are performing a binding on her. It will seal all her power away, and her past lives. That is, unless she can start gaining some control. Make it dramatic, but believable... maybe have this conversation among other "local witches."

Despite the fact that it is not true, it should work just as well as if it had been. Part of how "curses" and what-not work is the belief in it by the "cursed." If "Jan" believes you are telling the truth she will "feel" the effect, if gradually, and then it is problem solved.

Maybe tell her that it will be unlocked in stages, as the different levels of the bindings are removed via study and faith in the lord and lady.



NOTE: I am more inclined to say the problem is personal rather than supernatural, but go with what works.

Khalida Nyoka


Ju Ju La La Love

PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:58 pm


Okay, first off she isn't crazy. We actually have proof. Melanie's family travels alot. She was visiting another state when she and her friends found a very old, abandoned insane assylum. Being not the brigthest little group, they entered the condemed building. Melanie has a photographic memory and she took in every detail. They didn't find anything that they thought at the time was strange so we never heard this story. Until Jan's other side started describing it in perfect detail. As she revealed the story of what happened there, Melanie revealed to me that she had indeed been to this place. They started discussing the assylum at length. (This part was not in the abriged version)

Now, for a bit of an update (Which actually changes pretty much everything). From the begining I was skeptical about this other half being a past life. Past lives simply don't act like that. Jan's "other half" was behaving like a spirit who is time sharing a body. Jan however was convinced that it was a past life. To her credit, she has massive amounts of untapped psychic energy (dormant until the binding spell broke) however, her intuition is not as strong as she likes to think. But I went along with her theory to humor her. Upon a recent conversation with her other half, she revealed to me that she wasn't waiting for a soul to be roborn, but the body. Apparently, Jan and this spirit are identical in appearance (or were... would be if this other half were still alive). She was waiting for someone identical to what she used to look like so that she would be familiar with the body.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:16 pm


What connection do Jan and Melanie have? It sounds all most like Jan was there, but I'm not sure it is what you meant.


If she was there, then it could be said that she is tapping into some empathic "stuff."

If she was not there, then it needs to be found out if the "real Jan" knows anything about the asylum. If she does, then "natural/rational" explanations need to be explored.

If she does not have any conscious knowledge of it, then I say to feel free to explore the "supernatural" (but to still keep your head out of the clouds).


If I knew more about the "real Jan" I'd be able to give advice on what to do...
To start, what are her opinions on social welfare and social justice?

Khalida Nyoka


DrasBrisingr

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:44 am


Khalida Nyoka
In regards to the whole "I could kill you if I wanted to..." That is a true statement. Magickally/spiritually strong or not, there is no real protection from the "Evocation of the .45"

Not even a bullet proof vest is really enough... and that's assuming she desn't have any assault rifles with either tracer rounds (not legal), or armor piercing rounds (legal).

Ah, Khalida. You are truly amazing. I'll have to remember that "Evocation of the .45." That could come in handy one of these days.

But to the topic at hand, everyone knows I'm always one to point out the mundane. Regardless of whether you're giving the "abridged" version or not, you're leaving a hell of a lot of holes in your story. For instance, in your second post, you added two points that, I think, are pretty damn important. True, the second part is an "update," but if you were really that skeptical about this "entity" being a past life in the first place, why didn't you speak up about it? Assuming this "Jan" character isn't a member of the guild (in which case, it should be she who asks for help), why did you feel the need to hide your suspicions? In fact, it wasn't until it was mentioned by someone else that it could be some sort of spirit that you jumped in and said, "oh, yeah. It turns out it was a spirit after all. But, you know, I suspected it from the beginning."

And another thing. Is it possible that Jan just...doesn't like you? I mean, assuming you didn't have any knowledge about her background before she told you,don't you think her whole "adopted as a baby/biological parents bound her powers" thing seems a little...odd? To me, at least. What are the circumstances surrounding her adoption? Is she still in contact with her biological family? If not, how does she know they put a binding spell on her? Could Jan possibly be just trying to ******** with you?

I might just be a little too misanthropic, but it seems like somethng's not right. And I don't think I'm the only one who thinks that, given the responses of some other people. So if you'd like help with this, you might want to start from the beginning. No abridged version, nothing left out. Or you could just try Khalida's idea. It seems like it couldn't hurt. Unless she completely flips out, feels threatened, and tries to kill you. There's always that.
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