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Hypocrisy, much?
Yes! And they call US cruel?! Ridiculous.
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No. They've always been blatant woman-bashers. Some of them are just in denial
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PhaedraMcSpiffy

PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:15 pm


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xd Oooh, nice. I wonder if I could start a Kangaroo vs Pro-lifer kickboxing league.
It'd generate a bit of revenue, yes. whee

You know...I get frustrated with some hardcore lifers. A lot. But I think that's mainly due to my stance of "You don't expect people to control you, so don't try and control them". And of course, it bugs me when they bring up the 'child-to-be' in question, as if attempting to make me feel guilty.

I just don't think it's anyone's business but the doctor, patient, and the ones allowed to be involved. Why does it affect them? I don't get it.


Why should I speak up against gay bashing? I'm straight, it doesn't affect me. Why should I speak up when I hear a racial remark against blacks, Hispanics, etc.? I'm white, it doesn't affect me. Why do I defend others? Because I'm human and they're human.


[Feel free to correct me if I need to edit those other names.]

Someone told her this was contradictory. Caring about fetuses, but not caring about all thse other people's rights? Her response? "Reading Comprehension is your friend."

Seeing responses so cruel can be depressing. But talking about it with like-minded friends makes it feel a little better. So, post your "pro-life" hypocrisy, woman-bashing, and outright hateful ignorant nutjobs here!

Just DON'T NAME ANY NAMES, remember, because it can be interpreted as a call to harass that person.

EDIT: I stand corrected. She was trying to call us hypocritical, in a way, saying that we stand up for human rights except for fetal humans. She was trying to point out a major problem with the "mind your own business" way of thinking. I misunderstood. However, I still find it offensive that she would compare the legitimate suffering of thinking, feeling human beings to the death of a nonsentient human being.

EDIT 1/31/08: Apparently it is okay to post names from public forums, but not private guilds. After all, most of us know who the people are and where they said it, anyway, and they did say it in a public forum. Just remember that THIS THREAD IS NOT AN INVITATION TO HARRASS.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:40 pm


God forbid you ever had to walk a mile in her shoes


Disgusting. Proves the "Pro-lifers only care about the rights of the unborn" stereotype.

'Cause then you really might know what it's like to have to choose

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Trite~Elegy

PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:49 pm


People spoke up and said slavery was right, that the bible approved of it.
People spoke up and supported segregation laws.
People spoke up against the suffragettes and the women's rights movement.
People speak up to deport illegal immigrants without a moment's notice,
seperating families, and forcing other's in jails/prisons.

Does everyone forget that Hitler spoke out against millions of people just because they practice a certain religion, shared an ancestory, or lived in a certain area.

LOL just invoked godwin's law. silly me

Just because you can open your mouth does not mean you are doing something 'right' or 'heroic'.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:41 pm


Phaedra, I think she was trying to make a point, albeit she did it very badly.

She was being sarcastic and trying to imply she does speak up against gaybashing and racism.

Yeah... I think. Not sure, though.

RoseRose


caffinated_tulip

PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 11:09 pm


i agree with roserose...er... i think? It seems like what she meant to say was that she dosent have to speak up for all those other groups (i.e. being a straight woman, gay rights dont DIRECTLY affect me) but that she does because they're human and she's human ergo the reason she speaks up for the fetuses.

Of course, her comment about "reading comprehension" is kind of hillarious... "It's called 'clear communication' people!"

Edit: I am, of course, in no way implying that I dont speak up for gay rights. Because I believe that even if things dont directly affect you but you still see them as harmfull, even to others, you owe it to yourself to speak up. Which is kind of what the pro-life movement is all about and why I can't bash it in and of itself, Prolifers should exist. I do, however have a problem with the ones that are stupid and make their entire movement look bad, there are intellegent arguments for pro-life out there, it's just really hard to find one. [/rant]
PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:50 am


She communicated it differently than I think I would have.

And while I understand where that quote is coming from.. I think I made a good argument to dispute it that it's not a really a validly reasoned defense as to why a fetus is magically special and exempt from the laws governing all other humans-- i.e. not violating bodily domain.

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Spiral Out

PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:21 am


(Just so you know, I've spoke to a mod about an issue like this, and if it's posted in a public forum, you have every right to use their name. I'd just refrain from doing so with quotes from a guild.)

And on topic, I feel this is disgusting. She stands up for humans, and I guess pregnant women aren't human in her eyes. She makes me sick.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:43 am


Some Pro-Lifer
Quote:
On this note, I'd like to say that while I love my oldest niece (as she is closest to my age and is a complete sweetheart) it disheartens me that my sister threw her life away to have her. My sister had a full ride track scholarship to college, she was one of the best. But she got pregnant and kept the baby, as my parents found out about it too late to get her an abortion. I love my niece and my sister very much, but I feel like I would respect her a bit more if she hadn't had my niece. My sister is one of the many reasons why I support better sex education and for parents to support and talk to their children about pregnancy and abortion.
My GOD, what is this?

I nearly vomited... How can anyone... ANYONE- see the face of a child, of another human being, and call that a waste? How callous will this world ********, I hate people.


Okay.
1. She never said her niece was a "waste".
2. She said she would RESPECT her sister more. Not LOVE her sister more.
3. Why use the world hate? It's such a strong and malicious term.

...Your thoughts on this?

X.a.p.h.a.n


Dissnitive Blade

PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:07 am


X.a.p.h.a.n
Some Pro-Lifer
Quote:
On this note, I'd like to say that while I love my oldest niece (as she is closest to my age and is a complete sweetheart) it disheartens me that my sister threw her life away to have her. My sister had a full ride track scholarship to college, she was one of the best. But she got pregnant and kept the baby, as my parents found out about it too late to get her an abortion. I love my niece and my sister very much, but I feel like I would respect her a bit more if she hadn't had my niece. My sister is one of the many reasons why I support better sex education and for parents to support and talk to their children about pregnancy and abortion.
My GOD, what is this?

I nearly vomited... How can anyone... ANYONE- see the face of a child, of another human being, and call that a waste? How callous will this world ********, I hate people.


Okay.
1. She never said her niece was a "waste".
2. She said she would RESPECT her sister more. Not LOVE her sister more.
3. Why use the world hate? It's such a strong and malicious term.

...Your thoughts on this?

It's a textbook example of good old fashioned fetus>than born people mentality. Throw in the fact that this person probably didn't read the post correctly and you get this lovely post.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:23 am


God, I can't stand it when lifers compare their "fetus rights" activism to queer rights and civil rights. We have ACTUAL PEOPLE we're fighting for, and we're not trampling other peoples' rights in the process when we protest for marriage equality and equal treatment, assholes. And believe me, POC have suffered a thousand times more than a little fetus ever could, since they've been aware for the past couple centuries and all.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:56 am


AngieAki
God forbid you ever had to walk a mile in her shoes


Disgusting. Proves the "Pro-lifers only care about the rights of the unborn" stereotype.

'Cause then you really might know what it's like to have to choose


And this is the same cuntrag who goes on about how that's NOT what the "pro-life" movement is all about.

She ******** disgusts me. Not many people can do that.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 10:03 am


The major difference between supporting the rights of minorities, and homosexuals, and wanting 'equal rights' for fetuses, is that the fetus is inside another person's body. By fighting for 'equal fetal' rights, you are taking rights away from born people. Giving rights to gays and minorities doesn't take anything away from anyone. Straight people can still marry, and white people still have their rights.

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PhaedraMcSpiffy

PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 10:04 am


RoseRose
Phaedra, I think she was trying to make a point, albeit she did it very badly.

She was being sarcastic and trying to imply she does speak up against gaybashing and racism.

Yeah... I think. Not sure, though.


I saw that in the thread. Oops. redface

But in my defense, this same poster has said offensive and cruel things like this. That's partly why I misinterpreted her comment. She also phrased it oddly.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 10:25 am


It still doesn't validate her argument.

My counter was perfectly valid-- what the ******** makes a fetus so special that it has full human rights but is above the law?

Instead of giving me a reasoned answer she took the typical Pro-Lifer appeal to the emotions road and chose to try and demonize me as a Pro-Choicer lessening the horror of rape.

rolleyes

Actually, I must think rape is a pretty big ******** deal if I'm using it as a comparison to allowing a fetus to violate a woman.

I'm sick of this attitude that a fetus is some magical God-kin that cures everything and makes things awesome and deserves equal rights and THEN some.

I will never understand how being pregnant means a woman has to give up her rights.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:20 pm


I loved that last wall of text posted about Fetal development..

From a freaking Christian University and citing a bunch of biased, Pro-Life links.

rolleyes

Get me some data from a group who objectively looks at both birth and fetal development from a NEUTRAL view, not one out to prove their "moral" points.
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