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ethanatos

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:25 am


I was just noticing that both the master and voldemorte had plans for domination, then had to put their original plans to the side to pursue plans of escaping final death.

plus they both use anagrams for names.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:44 am


What is Master an anagram of?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 12:17 pm


Actually, I remember the Master using other words that meant or referred to his being the Master as pseudonyms. Like Mr. Magister, The Adjudicator and the like.

Allthough, I did read once that the producers would sometimes hide the fact that the Master was going to be in an upcoming episode by using anagrams of the Actor's name. xd
PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 12:22 pm


when the master took nissa's father's body his name was Tremas an anamgram for the master.

wikipedia

when the production team wished to hide the Master's involvement in a story, they credited the character under an anagrammatic alias such as "Neil Toynay" (Tony Ainley) or "James Stoker" (Master's Joke).


and of coarse the season 3 spoiler:
Mister Saxon=Master no six

ethanatos


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 12:25 pm


Many villians have used pseudonyms and sought domination/immortality. I don't see that many parallels between Voldemort and the Master otherwise...those are pretty generic.

And the Master has been associated with anagrams but I can't think of any he's used as an alias besides Mister Saxon = Master no. 6 (but then I'm a 'New Who' fan and have mostly only seen since the 9th Doctor onwards) knowingly (spoiler: Yana wasn't picked by him to fit You Are Not Alone, since I don't think his human-self knew about the Face of Bo/Jack's words to the Doctor) . But I did know that actors playing him have been credited with aliases.

And wasn't Tremas already called Tremas? So that wasn't really a choice of his either, if so.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 12:38 pm


Ethanatos
when the master took nissa's father's body his name was Tremas an anamgram for the master.

wikipedia

when the production team wished to hide the Master's involvement in a story, they credited the character under an anagrammatic alias such as "Neil Toynay" (Tony Ainley) or "James Stoker" (Master's Joke).


and of coarse the season 3 spoiler:
Mister Saxon=Master no six


True, true. I always forget about Tremas being an anagram. I always think of him as Nyssa's father first.

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Many villians have used pseudonyms and sought domination/immortality. I don't see that many parallels between Voldemort and the Master otherwise...those are pretty generic.


The two characters are similar archetypes and do have a lot in common, or that could just be the Harry Potter junkie in me speaking. xd

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And wasn't Tremas already called Tremas? So that wasn't really a choice of his either, if so.


I think you're looking too deeply here. The writers obviously intended Tremas to become the Master, hence the anagram.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 6:06 pm


Also a Harry Potter fan but I'm still not seeing it really.
WhoGuru

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And wasn't Tremas already called Tremas? So that wasn't really a choice of his either, if so.


I think you're looking too deeply here. The writers obviously intended Tremas to become the Master, hence the anagram.


Ethanatos

plus they both use anagrams for names.


This bit that's bolded I took to mean ICly, Voldemort and the Master choose to use anagrams. Unless the Master influenced Tremas' parents to name him that or picked him because of his name...then ICly the master didn't use an anagram and it was coincidence (unlike the Mister Saxon one, which was IC, because he did choose it and I think he did that on purpose.

=D The writers OOCly did, yes, use an anagram with Tremas.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 5:53 am


Ethanatos
when the master took nissa's father's body his name was Tremas an anamgram for the master.

wikipedia

when the production team wished to hide the Master's involvement in a story, they credited the character under an anagrammatic alias such as "Neil Toynay" (Tony Ainley) or "James Stoker" (Master's Joke).


and of coarse the season 3 spoiler:
Mister Saxon=Master no six
(°♠°)

        ...

        It could also be Master in sox :3
        Or Master is on x
        x)



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katybutterfly

PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 8:29 am


I know this isn't a similarity, it's just bugging me...

Roger Delgado is seen as the first Master, yes? But is that actually true? In the Patrick Troughton story The Mind Robber, the person controlling the Land Of Fiction is called the Master... so is he the true first Master? Here's the episode guide...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/classic/episodeguide/mindrobber/detail.shtml

Decide for yourselves...
PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:16 pm


I don't think that you can use such a loose connexion to draw comparison between 2 different villians.

The only comparison I can see is I wanted them to kill people I dislike...=D

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