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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:38 pm
theres an ongoing thred in here called the cronokinesis theory and i wasnt at all convinced it was possible because of the lack of proof and/or any evidence. BUT i do now belive its possible because of cris angel. i was watching teh show mind freak and saw cris make a car dissapear by driveing it through CO2 and useing 'magic'. at first i was didnt kow what to make of it. i thought that perhaps he was useing energy or some kind of spell to make him transparent or along the lines of invisible. but then i wasnt sure wether or not it would also cloak the noise made by the car, so i kept the throught prosses going, and ended up thinking back to the first time i saw this cronokinesis thread.
this leads me to belive a number of things (unless, by all means, someone can disproove me and if you can please do) i am now under the impression that cronokinesis (the manipulation of time if im correct) is possible by slowing or completely stoping the flow of time within an area determined by the 'magician', meaning that if someone was able to use it they could bring time around them to a near complete stop for however long.
now this theory isnt anywhere near bullet proofe because they used fire-extinguishers on teh show a lot so it could have been a trick of the eye from whatever they did, haveing nothing to do with magick biggrin but its a fun possibility.(side note: cris angel did use telekinesis to take the ring off a finger of a maniquine and to put a pin into the back of someones shirt holding a card)
(extra side note: all the above is completely in my opinion because im not 100% sure that everything he did was as it was said or appeared.) thank you.
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:39 pm
I'm not sure what you're talking about with your theory on chronokinesis, or at least how it would be used to make a car "vanish".
You seem to be describing a time dilation field though, where the time inside the field is moving at a different rate than the time outside the field. This has been theorized by physicists to only be possible when moving near the speed of light or in the presence of an immense gravitational field.
I personally don't think that it's probable for one person to cause a time dilation field. Maybe they can affect their perception of time or the perception of others, but not an actual dilation field.
However, I like to think anything is possible.
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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 10:42 pm
Obscurus I'm not sure what you're talking about with your theory on chronokinesis, or at least how it would be used to make a car "vanish". You seem to be describing a time dilation field though, where the time inside the field is moving at a different rate than the time outside the field. This has been theorized by physicists to only be possible when moving near the speed of light or in the presence of an immense gravitational field. I personally don't think that it's probable for one person to cause a time dilation field. Maybe they can affect their perception of time or the perception of others, but not an actual dilation field. However, I like to think anything is possible. A time dillation feild? birlliant. i could figure out how he does most the things he does but that would certainly explain it... though that doesnt necessarily exp[lain how he does it since he was only doing like 100 M/H... hmmm. i was informed by some friends that it was all a bunch of tricks with smoke and mirrors and what-not but non of them or anyone ive seen can even say something remotely possible that explains the phenomenal things he does... i guess since all else has failed so far, ill look to the GD. XD. thank you for your explanation, as i now have knowledge priorly unknown. biggrin sorry ill end this post before i begin to ramble.
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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:35 pm
fluffysteel2 Obscurus I'm not sure what you're talking about with your theory on chronokinesis, or at least how it would be used to make a car "vanish". You seem to be describing a time dilation field though, where the time inside the field is moving at a different rate than the time outside the field. This has been theorized by physicists to only be possible when moving near the speed of light or in the presence of an immense gravitational field. I personally don't think that it's probable for one person to cause a time dilation field. Maybe they can affect their perception of time or the perception of others, but not an actual dilation field. However, I like to think anything is possible. A time dillation feild? birlliant. i could figure out how he does most the things he does but that would certainly explain it... though that doesnt necessarily exp[lain how he does it since he was only doing like 100 M/H... hmmm. i was informed by some friends that it was all a bunch of tricks with smoke and mirrors and what-not but non of them or anyone ive seen can even say something remotely possible that explains the phenomenal things he does... i guess since all else has failed so far, ill look to the GD. XD. thank you for your explanation, as i now have knowledge priorly unknown. biggrin sorry ill end this post before i begin to ramble. I'm pretty sure that most of what Criss Angel does is illusion and mentalism. I've heard that he's admitted it before. I'd still be interested in knowing how he does his levitation between buildings and walking on water though.
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Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:20 am
Last time I checked,Chronokinesis was Time Perception Manipulation.And I dont think he used Chrono in that stunt.I honestly think he made a simple portal using his energy to 'teleport' him maybe half a mile away.He probably used a technique close to the Wingmakers technique as far as the portal goes.
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