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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 9:51 am


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As far as I know, you can make food before Shabbat begins, and eat it once sundown comes...I'm not really sure a non-Jew can make your food though, because I think that would break a kosher rule, but don't quote me.


Yeah but you can't open the fridge, it will turn on the lightbulb!

Yeah, I know I don't practice those ways anymore.


Unscrew the light bulb, and it won't turn on. Or tape the little nub in place that sticks out. If you feel you must have light in there, get one of those portable stick-on lights and just turn it on before Shabbat in your fridge.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 9:56 am


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I guess what I'm trying to say is this: Just because you're alone doesn't mean it has to be unfortunate. In fact, being alone on your first Shabbat experience is probably better, because you can reflect on the week and not feel like you have an audience...


True, and you're the master of your own time. You can pray all you want. You can take a little snooze and catch up on all the sleep you don't get during the week. You can read -- someone posted a list of excellent books about Judaism, and I'd be happy to repost it if you can't find it in the Jewish Information subforum. You can play with your pets, who will surely love the attention. You can also talk to your non-Jewish family. When they've had a while to see you making Shabbat, it won't seem as unusual to them, and they'll want to ask you questions about it. They'll also want to know why Jesus isn't a part of your life anymore, and it might be a good time to explain, but make sure they know you're only telling them because they did ask. (Simplest answer I ever heard: In the book of Isaiah, God says we can make atonement through sacrifice, but we can also get it by charitable giving, sincere repentence, and prayer. So, since we can atone through those things, why do we need Jesus as an intercessor standing between ourselves and God? It was a needless waste of a man's life.)

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:00 am


Dis Domnu
It made sense.

And, whelp, I tried to do shabbat last night and today, but ended up failing rather miserably. My candles went burned themselves out by 10 pm, and left me in pitch black until I fell asleep at 3 am. I woke up at 1 pm and got halfway through reading the book of Genesis, and at around 5 pm family showed up and I didn't have a choice but to stop observing.

I also was unable to prepare food for myself beforehand, as anything I tried to prepare was just put back in the fridge by my family who forgot that I wasn't allowed to cook. Dinner tonight would have been an open bag of doritos, since the other food would require cooking (sunday is our shopping day, so we're low on food right now).

I think that if I'm going to observe Shabbat again, I'll need to do it with people, rather than alone.


That's not a failure, Dis. It's a disappointment. Failure would be not making any effort at all.

Maybe you can move your shopping day to Thursdays, so that you'll have fresh things available on Friday for Shabbat prep.

The Shabbat candles do burn out after a short time, but if you leave a closet light and a bathroom light on, you'll be able to get around your personal space.

Put your Shabbat food in a marked container: "This is for Dis, who is trying to keep Shabbat. Please do not eat or throw out."

And when you speak to people during the week, ask them if they could ask you to do things during the week or on Sunday instead of on Sabbath, because you're really trying to make a solid effort to learn more about your Jewish heritage. "I'm just learning, so I'll probably make mistakes, but I'll really appreciate your help in rescheduling the things you'd like me to do for you."
PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:16 am


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Dis Domnu
It made sense.

And, whelp, I tried to do shabbat last night and today, but ended up failing rather miserably. My candles went burned themselves out by 10 pm, and left me in pitch black until I fell asleep at 3 am. I woke up at 1 pm and got halfway through reading the book of Genesis, and at around 5 pm family showed up and I didn't have a choice but to stop observing.

I also was unable to prepare food for myself beforehand, as anything I tried to prepare was just put back in the fridge by my family who forgot that I wasn't allowed to cook. Dinner tonight would have been an open bag of doritos, since the other food would require cooking (sunday is our shopping day, so we're low on food right now).

I think that if I'm going to observe Shabbat again, I'll need to do it with people, rather than alone.


That's not a failure, Dis. It's a disappointment. Failure would be not making any effort at all.

Maybe you can move your shopping day to Thursdays, so that you'll have fresh things available on Friday for Shabbat prep.

The Shabbat candles do burn out after a short time, but if you leave a closet light and a bathroom light on, you'll be able to get around your personal space.

Put your Shabbat food in a marked container: "This is for Dis, who is trying to keep Shabbat. Please do not eat or throw out."

And when you speak to people during the week, ask them if they could ask you to do things during the week or on Sunday instead of on Sabbath, because you're really trying to make a solid effort to learn more about your Jewish heritage. "I'm just learning, so I'll probably make mistakes, but I'll really appreciate your help in rescheduling the things you'd like me to do for you."


The shopping date isn't up to me, unfortunately. But I am working on getting food set aside for shabbat during the week. I can do the taping of the thing in the fridge, so I can make sandwiches and whatnot too.

It's good to know there are more options than I thought.

Dis Domnu

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