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RE: PETA - ethical? Animal Rights VS Animal Welfare

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Thistle Moon

PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:31 am


I have found that most people, even the most educated, dont realize there is a difference between animal rights and animal welfare. PETA and SHARK are two perfect examples of animal rights groups. THey are radicalists that believe that an animal cannot be used in any way shape or form. Not for food, not for products (leather, bone, etc) and not for work. This means that even seeing eye dogs or dogs that are trained to detect oncoming attacts in seizure patients like diabetics or to help find cancer in people (yes, dogs can actually do this!) They cant help detect drugs or bombs and help police officers. They cant be used to help rescue people from avalanches or when people get lost in the woods. Animals cant even be kept as pets. Not just dogs and cats and horses and such, but not even fish or millipedes or hissing cockroaches! These organizations support the mass euthanization to free animals from "enslavement". Peta has been convicted on numerous accounts of terrorism - blowing up laboratories and fur farms ultimately slaughtering innumerous animals within. Peta has even been convicted of paying people to brutally kill animals so that they can film it and create propaganda. They dont even believe in conservation in zoos. Zoos would not exist at all if it were up to them and although there are some out there that are bad, the majority are supported by the AZA and are a vital part of conservation and breeding programs to try and re-release threatened and endangered species into the wild. Same goes for rehabilitation centers and vets. THey dont believe in helping animals. THey would rather them die then have humans interfere!

ON THE OTHER HAND,

Animal welfare supporters understand that humans and animals have a beneficial relationship whether they are kept as pets or livestock that will eventually find its way to the slaughterhouse. THe difference is that animal welfare supporters believe and enforce the fair treatment of these animals. As pets, they are to be loved and cared for. Provided food and shelter and vet care when needed. They are to be treated as one of the family. In fur farms and slaughterhouses, there are actually awards given by animal welfare organizations for the kind treatment of the animals before death and even durring. The livestock is provided warm shelter, pleanty of food and water, and kept in humane conditions. When killed, they are killed humanely and with as little to no pain as possible. Furs and hides are sent off to be tanned and the meat is quartered and sent off for packaging. In all fairness, all parts of the animal that are usable are used. Animal welfare supporters do not support waste. The same goes for zoos. The animals are cared for as well or better than in the wild. THey keep them safe, healthy, and well fed.

I believe in animal welfare. I love all my furkids more than anything in the world. I work at a pet store and even if my boss is being unreasonable, I do whatever I have to do anyway to care for the animals in the store. My father is a hunter and although there are bad hunters out there that either dont know what they are doing or that hunt for sport, my father has taught me the balance of nature. Never take the young and only take females in winter - in spring they may be pregnant - use every part of the animal. Respect it and honor it and never take more than you can eat.
PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 7:30 pm


I'm a member of PETA. I support animal rights. I don't believe animals are ours to eat, wear, use for entertainment, or experimentation. Since so many animals are homeless, PETA does support people adopting animals and caring for them.

PETA.org

“Does PETA believe that people shouldn’t have pets?”

The earliest fossils that resemble the bones of modern dogs are about 12,000 years old, so we know that humans’ fascination with domesticated wolves began at least that long ago. About 5,000 years ago, Egyptians became the first to tame cats, whom they used to control the rodent population. Since then, the breeding and care of cats and dogs has exploded into a love affair, a sport, and a booming business. This international pastime has created an overpopulation crisis, and as a result, every year, millions of unwanted animals suffer at the hands of abusers, languish in shelters, and are euthanized. Adopting a cat or dog from a shelter and providing a loving home is a small but powerful way to prevent some of this suffering. The most important thing that animal guardians can do is to spay or neuter their animals and avoid buying animals from breeders or pet stores, which contribute to the overpopulation crisis.



As for your claims about terrorist acts, the stance of animal rights organizations such as the ALF [Animal Liberation Front], ELF [Earth Liberation Front,] and PETA is nonviolence - for both humans and animals. The ALF and ELF destroy resources that people use to torture and kill animals, but they rescue and then find homes for the animals.

PETA has not been convicted of killing animals.
Many shelters euthanize animals. PETA does their best to help find unwanted animals loving homes, but it's impossible and EXTREMELY expensive to do this for the millions in just the United States.

I have a hard time taking any of your claims seriously as you lack evidence to support them. Most of your claims are unfounded and huge generalizations.

How can you kill animals humanely? Factory farms are the reality of eating meat and other animal products [dairy, eggs, etc.] Animals live in dirty and cramped conditions, being pumped with hormones [or not being given proper medical treatment if it's "organic",] being deprived of all that is natural to them, for solely the selfishness of humans to refuse to change their diet. Eating meat is unnecessary in today's world, unless you're living in a developing country. According to the ADA [American Dietic Association, who regulates nutrition guidelines & creates the food pyramid,] a vegan diet is much healthier than an omnivorous one. Eating animal products not only causes unecessary suffering to animals, but contributes to global warming more than any other cause, furthers malnutrition [one pound of meat takes eight pounds of grain to produce,] and destroys rainforests [by demolishing them to create more grazing areas for livestock in South America.] It's also less expensive. In conclusion, there's absolutely no good reason to eat meat.

loony x lovegood

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