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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 7:26 pm
I would like to hear other peoples feelings on government and the basic ruling of people. For example is a monarchy the best or would a prime-minister/president be the better way or any other way of ruling that I did not mention.
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 3:35 pm
Excellent question. Monarchies are inferior in every way as one person wields absolute power. Meanwhile Republics can be just as flawed if you elect a weak or tyrannical leader. Absolute democracies don't work either since every idiot gets equal power over matters he knows nothing about (not to mention the red tape).
I have no idea what works best. I like Canada's, but it's by no means perfect.
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:21 am
I'm Canadian and yes we have a good system of government but there are oh so many flaws in almost all types of ruling if you have someone you elect then they get to rule (in the U.S. case) for 4 years however they see fit.
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:34 am
I surve the government so i don't know how to say this!!!
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:33 pm
officer Mike I surve the government so i don't know how to say this!!! What do you mean you don't know what your views on the government are?
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:04 pm
officer Mike I surve the government so i don't know how to say this!!! Do you mean you "serve" the government?
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:18 pm
rammstein rocker I'm Canadian and yes we have a good system of government but there are oh so many flaws in almost all types of ruling if you have someone you elect then they get to rule (in the U.S. case) for 4 years however they see fit. 3 words: Checks and Balances. It is how the US government balances itself out. The president is pretty much a figure head for publicity. The extent of his power is to veto a bill. So no, he can't rule for 4 years however he wants. Note: I'm not saying that the US government is perfect or that it doesn't have flaws, the whole checks and balances system is part of the reason why things take so long to get done. My idea of a perfect government is one where everyone takes part, but there is a panel of "smart people." The easiest way to desribe it is with an example. For example: if it was desiding on the abortion debate, a panel of scientist and doctors would discuss/experiement to deside all factors involved. They would do studies into the effects of abortion and adoption. And they would debate, this would be televised and the population would vote. There would be like 10 questions before voting to make sure they watched the debate or are atleast decently informed. 80% or more of questions would have to be answered correctly, since 80% shows mastery. This way people who are voting are educated. These results would them be discussed and put into action. Any new policies that would need to be put into place would be desided by the panel. For each new issue a new panel with new panel members would be put into place each time with specialization in the issue. Keep in mind that this is just a very rough outline.
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:52 pm
nosh276 officer Mike I surve the government so i don't know how to say this!!! Do you mean you "serve" the government? Ha.
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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:34 am
I think the US has, at the basic level, the right idea on the whole thing. On the idiotically complex level we've taken it to, however, things just don't work.
I'd keep the basic. Checks and balances, three branches, and all that mumbo jumbo.
However, as opposed to terms of 2 or 4 or more years...I'd see terms set yearly, with no limit to how many times someone can run, so long as they never lose the vote. If they lose but never win, they can try again. If they win, but lose in a later year, they never run again.
The basic premise of this theory is that a large number of people will move in at once every year. They will naturally have to spend less on advertising and campaigning because they couldn't keep up yearly otherwise. We would also get an excellent turnover of bad leaders, never suffering them for more than one year, and would see nicer runs of the good ones.
It would also put them on their best behavior since they aren't guaranteed more than one year if they totally screw up.
Anyways, that is my whole stance on government at this point. I'm not just talking President, I'm tlaking about any and every office. They all need a makeover and a good watchdog if you ask me, and thus my little one-year-to-unlimited solution.
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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 2:27 pm
Asellus Rosewater I think the US has, at the basic level, the right idea on the whole thing. On the idiotically complex level we've taken it to, however, things just don't work. I'd keep the basic. Checks and balances, three branches, and all that mumbo jumbo. However, as opposed to terms of 2 or 4 or more years...I'd see terms set yearly, with no limit to how many times someone can run, so long as they never lose the vote. If they lose but never win, they can try again. If they win, but lose in a later year, they never run again. The basic premise of this theory is that a large number of people will move in at once every year. They will naturally have to spend less on advertising and campaigning because they couldn't keep up yearly otherwise. We would also get an excellent turnover of bad leaders, never suffering them for more than one year, and would see nicer runs of the good ones.
It would also put them on their best behavior since they aren't guaranteed more than one year if they totally screw up.
Anyways, that is my whole stance on government at this point. I'm not just talking President, I'm tlaking about any and every office. They all need a makeover and a good watchdog if you ask me, and thus my little one-year-to-unlimited solution. Not completely true since our perception of good/bad leaders is largely circumstancial. PLUS there's no such thing as a good politician.
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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 3:46 pm
Cornetto1 Asellus Rosewater I think the US has, at the basic level, the right idea on the whole thing. On the idiotically complex level we've taken it to, however, things just don't work. I'd keep the basic. Checks and balances, three branches, and all that mumbo jumbo. However, as opposed to terms of 2 or 4 or more years...I'd see terms set yearly, with no limit to how many times someone can run, so long as they never lose the vote. If they lose but never win, they can try again. If they win, but lose in a later year, they never run again. The basic premise of this theory is that a large number of people will move in at once every year. They will naturally have to spend less on advertising and campaigning because they couldn't keep up yearly otherwise. We would also get an excellent turnover of bad leaders, never suffering them for more than one year, and would see nicer runs of the good ones.
It would also put them on their best behavior since they aren't guaranteed more than one year if they totally screw up.
Anyways, that is my whole stance on government at this point. I'm not just talking President, I'm tlaking about any and every office. They all need a makeover and a good watchdog if you ask me, and thus my little one-year-to-unlimited solution. Not completely true since our perception of good/bad leaders is largely circumstancial. PLUS there's no such thing as a good politician. Granted, but it does ensure that if we make a bad choice, or if circumstances change during the 2-4-whatever years...we're not left screwed over and waiting for the time to end so we can throw in someone else. No, there's no good politician, but they more-or-less run the country on our votes and our dollars, the least we could do is give them some incentive to get the job done right. Do it well, or get out.
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:03 pm
personally i hate government because almost all politicans are corrupt in some way
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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 6:04 pm
to tell you people the truth there is strengths and flaws in every goverment for example a monarchy is a strong goverment because there is always a welthy king involved but yet ull have to pay heavy taxes(9times out of 10) which ends up making people not like the king which when war breaks out the peasents dont want to work for the king resulting in the demolition of the kings grand estae
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 2:51 pm
If it's going to be humans ruling humans, then I wouldn't trust a totalitarian type gov't. I wouldn't trust a monarchy. An aristocracy might work, but I can't think of any that are in the present. A republic/democracy seems the best to me. There isn't really one person in charge, yet we have the checks and balances. What's more is that in this type of gov't, the people would be active in their gov't, something that not many other places are privaledged to have, yet since we live here, most of us are oblivious to what happens in our nation. Which makes it easier for the gov't to grow corrupt, control us from where they are, and do things in their interest instead of the country's as a whole. For instance, the middle class is breaking apart, and we are the backbone of the country. Without us the rich and powerful will fall because without us they won't have a means to make their money. Anyway, the idea was for the gov't to rule in a way that would be pleasant for all. A gov't run by the people for the people. So much for that. Still, if this thing wasn't so much in the interest of themselves, then it would seem like a great type of gov't. A Utopia would be nice, but I doubt we'd ever have one since we're humans.
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 3:36 pm
I'm relatively in favor of anarchy. no matter what type of government you set up, issues will arise due to the fact that the leaders are notably ungoverned.
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