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ElenaMason

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 12:06 am


Lyoko_Alchemist
Your awnser did cover it all. But...i dunno, im...agian simply someone who likes either facts/ proof. I only have faith in certain things and "god" is not one of them.

But i do respect others can follow without proof, just as long as they dont force it on me. Which im glad you havn't its a breath of fresh air a debunking without trying to convert me.

again good luck to you.


i couldn't even begin to imagine the things that have been said to you and the chastisement that was be put upon you. and so i apologize, even if i haven't personally said or done anything, i apologize for the actions of my brethren.

but it truly makes me happy to know that i haven't treated you or accidentally treated you as of recently the way they have. because one of the reasons i DID join, as i mentioned in the "introduction thread" was to show that not all Christians are like the ones you probably meet who aren't accepting and zealot like.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 12:22 am


Lyoko_Alchemist
oo wait i have another question...wow that was fast...

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wow hes not very open minded. the bible WARNS about boasting about one self so to boast about how Christianity is the ultimate religion is quite conceded in its own light. in fact there are many religions that have similar teachings to Christianity.


Then...(if you know why), are there, christians that do boast about their religion. And act all holier than thou. Doesn't that go aginst religion ??? Or the christians that haze wiccas, damning them to hell, or the ones that drop down in prayer in front of my gay friends.

I really thought religion was about acceptance, and im just curious...are people who do those things, just to passonate, or possers giving religion a bad name? Its always bugged me, but ive yet to find someone who gave me a straight awnser.


hmm.....i dont think ive personally ran into a christian or a zealot who is truly like that. im no the church going type and i dont have time to go to youth groups or anything and most of my friends aren't Christians anyway. the state of California has every type of religion you could imagine so finding Christians that i can just randomly run into and hang out with, isnt so common, at least for me.

i really dont know why people who are so conservative act the way they do for non believers of the christian faith. in fact, your right, at least regarding the christian faith, it teaches very much of accepting others and not being a false whiteness to your neighbor and " to treat others as you would treat yourself". the famous golden rule comes from the bible.

the bible teaches to be fair and just, to show kindness and truth and even to love your enemy, to never hate anyone or to hold grudges.

some Christians do the EXACT opposite.



Heres something i doubt you'll ever hear from a christian again. I find it EXTREMELY ironic and hypocritical and Christians state by going on missions and preaching the bible will save men.

It CAN NOT! I can not stress this strongly enough than what I'm saying now. Man CAN NOT and DOES NOT have the ability to spiritually save man. WE do not choose who will go to heaven and who will go to Hell. that is not OUR power, it is God's. The Lord tells us to preach the bible only to open the first door, and that is to "share" with those who have not yet heard the bible, about Christ our Lord and his teachings.

In other words, our purpose of "spreading the word" is merely to open a door, and the only one that can bring them through that spiritual door is God. The real means of preaching the bible is because we don't know who will be saved and who will be not.

Thats what I find it so pointless to try to "convert" and to "go on a mission" the way Christians to today, cuz I don't need to. That's not my purpose regarding spreading the word. All I need to do is merely teach about God's word and teach about God himself. From there it is the choice of the individual of whether they want to accept it or not, we can't FORCE people to accept what they don't want to believe.

So its so painfully.....just plain stupid for what they're doing today and it just annoys the hell out of me.

I'll give a little example regarding my roommates, and my friend whom has been a priest for a while now. My roomates weren't atheists but pagans. They claimed they had already read the bible but didn't believe in God or what it had to say. And my friend goes on telling me how I should try to "save" them but preaching about God or something. And I'm sitting here thinking "you....FOOL.....my god do you just NOT understand that I CAN'T save them spiritually? I don't have to preach to them because they already read about the bible and if they don't accept it then they DON'T ACCEPT IT!"

I can't force them and he was angry at me for it. Its LUDICROUS!



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ugh *takes deep breath* okay i think im just ranting and rambling now. ^^; i hoped i answered your questions.

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