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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:19 am


Emily`s_Gone_Mad
Yeah that kind of entrepreneurship is crazy.
Do you really need a walmart every 10 min?
Gah!
gonk

Where I live right now about 15 years ago there was nothing but wildlife.
Well of course the city expanded and what was known as the "bonnies" became like a new downtown.

IT's sad though, because they wiped out all the top predators in the area like the bobcat and the coyotee's...and now there is a bunch of deer.
I hate it when people go into my work complaning about how the deer ate their grass or plants.
Pfft. I always tell them, "well maybe you should feed them."
I mean the deer were there first, and now they are overpopulated because we took out all the top predators.

It's really sad, and I want to cry, everything I see a dead deer on the side of the road cuz it's been run over, by someone who was probably speeding...I've had plenty of deer cross my path everyday to work and I've never hit one.
Almost everyday I see a dead dear on my way to work...and that's not even highway...I take the small neighborhood streets to get to work, since I don't live to far.

How sad....
crying


I know this is so stupid. My town used to be all complete country where elk would go in the back yard every night. Now only a strip of land is still country and there are drag races by our house and elk only come out once a month. AND the city is building a new applebees and a walmart and a target on the rest of the country we have. It is unbelivable.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:58 am


Sun Charm


I know this is so stupid. My town used to be all complete country where elk would go in the back yard every night. Now only a strip of land is still country and there are drag races by our house and elk only come out once a month. AND the city is building a new applebees and a walmart and a target on the rest of the country we have. It is unbelivable.


How sad, Its like those companies don't feel like they are making enough money where they are at already... Sure they provide relatively cheap products to the consumers (with the exception of applebees [btw I can't stand chef tyler florence... he just annoys me really bad]) but I believe we are going to continue to see this kind of stuff to the end of time because of the ridiculous nature of our government, and the greed of humanity... only when people start to see the effects of cutting down forests and clearing land... and people start dying... thats when it will stop or slow down.. when people actually feel threatened by the effects... kind of like cigarrettes and cancer... no one did anything about it until they felt that their lives were actually in danger if they used the product... and since the government is all fubar... people have no reason to believe that global warming and climate shifts are even possible.

man kind has this mentality that they will do anything that they can get away with... unfortunately if they keep this kind of crap up they won't get by with it for much longer...

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Emily`s_Gone_Mad

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:45 pm


Bejiitto
Sun Charm
Strange that resembles the movie, Day after Tomorrow. I wonder if those people who made that article were inspired by it.


I have always wondered about the points made in that movie. It seemed so far fetched because of the magnitude of those storms.. but when I read articles about underwater ocean currents and their effect on climate... something like that could be possible. I mean if you ever watched the weather channel the vast majority of hurricanes and typhoons are formed on the currents. Its VERY rare for a hurricane to just develop out in the middle of the atlantic ocean where there isn't an ocean current... The current that runs down the pacific coast towards the south makes it extremely rare for such a storm to make landfall there.

Solar output does impact the weather... but I believe the currents have the greatest impact. Watch the radar and see how storm systems move across the United States... Most systems Dip down from the Washington State Area (thats right where one of the currents pushes towards before running down the coast) [I am trying to describe this as best as I can but its hard] the storm system moves across the land gradually weakening. Typically once a system reaches Central United States.. around the Texas Oklahoma Area those storms recieve a boost of warm moist air. from the Gulf Stream currents.. (why else would that area be called tornado alley if it wasn't the area where the storms recieve their greatest boost in power) that current also aids in propelling the storm the rest of the way off the United States in a North Eastish pattern where it is then Caught by North Atlantic Current and taken out to sea... I don't know if I am stating common knowledge here or not... I just waited to point out the impact of ocean currents..

Since a lot of ocean currents are dependent on salinity, if that balance was disrupted ocean currents would distort change and what not causing a change in climate.

I am not so sure on the whole global warming thing, and the relation of the Ozone layer... I havn't really read anything on it. But if trashing the planet causes temps to rise it would cause the ice caps to melt and it would ******** up the North Atlantic Current for sure...

Reguardless if Global Warming is a scam.. it pisses me off when people throw washers and driers off in the woods somewhere on a backroad, or throws their nasty diapers out on the highway. That kind of behavior is ******** ridiculous.


Global warming is a scam?
I don't think so.
I think "people" want you to believe that but People want you to believe alot of things, and you have to dig deep for any real information, ultimatly you have to put one and one together.

If global warming is a scam it's not such a bad thing, because first off we shouldn't be living like pigs, and if this scam is going to help us get away from that then more power to it.
Let's ********' scare the s**t out of people so that they can finally give a damn!
I really get rattled up on this subject of litering and polution and all the damn chemicals that go into our drinking water, into our home planet. It's really damn sad and I think that at the magnitude that we are doing this it is definatly affecting our evniroment. OF course there are natural causes for climate changes there always have been since the begining of time.
But the rate that we are causing this climate change or extream weather to happen is not likely normal. Our extinction and endagered animal list is growing and growing. Animals aren't being alowed to adapt, they are dying off. The frogs for crying out loud are going to go extinct due to one fact being that they can't reproduce since the chemicals in the water have actually chaged the sex alot of frogs to all be females.
Frogs are an important indicator species. They are the first to go when something is wrong with an enviroment. There is obiously something wrong, whatever you want to believe is the cause of this, the fact still remains that our enviroment is failing.


As far as ocean currents go, they do affect the climates of the regions, and if our ocean currents are gettin' all messed up because of the amount of freshwater going into the ocean, it will most definalty affect our weater.
Maybe it will be cold, maybe it will be hot.
Speaking of funky weather, here in TX, at least where I live it has been raining for weeks now. Porbably close to a month, it's been pouring like it never does here.
This should be our hottest time of the year and we are looking at 69 degrees F. That is crazy.

Ocean currents probably do not directly affect gobal warming, but they do affect it indirectly by changes in ocean circulation that can cause huge climate changes in certain regions, some may get colder, some hotter; but it doesn't neccesarly affect the global average temperature.
But to really understand this you must understand ocean currents and how they work and how everything is connected. The familiar lesson (at least for me)is of the fact that "no away"

Here are a couple of sites I found that reference what I have mentioned:

Sex Change frogs

Pictures of other frog mutations
PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:50 pm


catz...

I think you might have missunderstood me

I did not call global-warming a scam...

I didn't say that in the least...

I guess I didn't explain my thoughts clearly enough (it happens a lot)

I BELIEVE GLOBAL WARMING EXISTS...

Ocean currents do not effect global warming
global warming effects ocean currents because of the all the fresh water being dumped into the water from melting polar ice...

sorry if I got you riled up

Human Ignorance, wastefulness, negligance -> Global warming -> Polar Ice Caps begin to melt and shrink -> Ocean Currents change -> Climates change -> animals and vegetation die due to a sharp change in the invironment due to the inability to adapt to such a harsh climate change.

That is the picture I was trying to paint....

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Jubillie

PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 9:28 am


Bejiitto
catz...

I think you might have missunderstood me

I did not call global-warming a scam...

I didn't say that in the least...

I guess I didn't explain my thoughts clearly enough (it happens a lot)

I BELIEVE GLOBAL WARMING EXISTS...

Ocean currents do not effect global warming
global warming effects ocean currents because of the all the fresh water being dumped into the water from melting polar ice...

sorry if I got you riled up

Human Ignorance, wastefulness, negligance -> Global warming -> Polar Ice Caps begin to melt and shrink -> Ocean Currents change -> Climates change -> animals and vegetation die due to a sharp change in the invironment due to the inability to adapt to such a harsh climate change.

That is the picture I was trying to paint....



lol
Catz just get's all hyped up with this topic.
No worries.
You should see her other global warming threads.

xd
PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 8:06 pm


hehe, okie dokie...

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Emily`s_Gone_Mad

PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:18 am


Bejiitto
hehe, okie dokie...



*huggles*

Sorry, I just saw the part that said,
Global warming is a scam and totally read over the REGARDLESS word.

XP
I was a little confused in the end, when I thought you had said it was a scam...cuz it didnt' seem like you would say that from what I read before.

lol

I mean either way, everyone is entitled to their own oppinion...
PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:56 pm


Speaking of Global Warming I was just watching the weather channel
and apparently the warming of the arctic has made it possible to aquire the natural resources found there.

I believe it was stated that the arctic contains about 1/4 of the planets natural gas and oil.

I am getting sick of this... they are going to go up there and ******** up our planet even more...

I am so sick of human ignorance... (looks like I am going into a ranting mode)

I went to the beach a couple days ago... and I could not believe the amounts of litter that all the ******** tourists leave on the beaches in North Carolina... people are so disgusting... A woman left a pad up in one of the dunes at the beach.. I have never been so disgusted with the human race.... It upsets me so much that people can just throw their trash everywhere... GOD forbid I see someone litter... I will rip them a new a**... scream ok... rant over

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:36 pm


Can someone post the WHOLE story in this thread because I am only allowed to view one paragraph of the story. sweatdrop
PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:27 pm


This debate is gonna go on for years.
My personal feelings towards the matter is that yes, pollution is bad. Although, more methane is made by mass- grazing of cows than cars. Let's shut down McDonalds, Burger King and wherever else people get their bovine nutrients from.
But, I do not believe these so-called Greenhouse Gases are to blame.

Perhaps they are speeding up the effect slightly, but the Sun has a great influence on our planet. On Mars, the temperature has also risen. The exact same amount as Earth's temperature. Explain that?

I don't believe we can prevent global warming, as the cycle has been going on for billions of years.

:'D

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:14 am


Emily`s_Gone_Mad
Bejiitto
Sun Charm
Strange that resembles the movie, Day after Tomorrow. I wonder if those people who made that article were inspired by it.


I have always wondered about the points made in that movie. It seemed so far fetched because of the magnitude of those storms.. but when I read articles about underwater ocean currents and their effect on climate... something like that could be possible. I mean if you ever watched the weather channel the vast majority of hurricanes and typhoons are formed on the currents. Its VERY rare for a hurricane to just develop out in the middle of the atlantic ocean where there isn't an ocean current... The current that runs down the pacific coast towards the south makes it extremely rare for such a storm to make landfall there.

Solar output does impact the weather... but I believe the currents have the greatest impact. Watch the radar and see how storm systems move across the United States... Most systems Dip down from the Washington State Area (thats right where one of the currents pushes towards before running down the coast) [I am trying to describe this as best as I can but its hard] the storm system moves across the land gradually weakening. Typically once a system reaches Central United States.. around the Texas Oklahoma Area those storms recieve a boost of warm moist air. from the Gulf Stream currents.. (why else would that area be called tornado alley if it wasn't the area where the storms recieve their greatest boost in power) that current also aids in propelling the storm the rest of the way off the United States in a North Eastish pattern where it is then Caught by North Atlantic Current and taken out to sea... I don't know if I am stating common knowledge here or not... I just waited to point out the impact of ocean currents..

Since a lot of ocean currents are dependent on salinity, if that balance was disrupted ocean currents would distort change and what not causing a change in climate.

I am not so sure on the whole global warming thing, and the relation of the Ozone layer... I havn't really read anything on it. But if trashing the planet causes temps to rise it would cause the ice caps to melt and it would ******** up the North Atlantic Current for sure...

Reguardless if Global Warming is a scam.. it pisses me off when people throw washers and driers off in the woods somewhere on a backroad, or throws their nasty diapers out on the highway. That kind of behavior is ******** ridiculous.


Global warming is a scam?
I don't think so.
I think "people" want you to believe that but People want you to believe alot of things, and you have to dig deep for any real information, ultimatly you have to put one and one together.

If global warming is a scam it's not such a bad thing, because first off we shouldn't be living like pigs, and if this scam is going to help us get away from that then more power to it.
Let's ********' scare the s**t out of people so that they can finally give a damn!
I really get rattled up on this subject of litering and polution and all the damn chemicals that go into our drinking water, into our home planet. It's really damn sad and I think that at the magnitude that we are doing this it is definatly affecting our evniroment. OF course there are natural causes for climate changes there always have been since the begining of time.
But the rate that we are causing this climate change or extream weather to happen is not likely normal. Our extinction and endagered animal list is growing and growing. Animals aren't being alowed to adapt, they are dying off. The frogs for crying out loud are going to go extinct due to one fact being that they can't reproduce since the chemicals in the water have actually chaged the sex alot of frogs to all be females.
Frogs are an important indicator species. They are the first to go when something is wrong with an enviroment. There is obiously something wrong, whatever you want to believe is the cause of this, the fact still remains that our enviroment is failing.


As far as ocean currents go, they do affect the climates of the regions, and if our ocean currents are gettin' all messed up because of the amount of freshwater going into the ocean, it will most definalty affect our weater.
Maybe it will be cold, maybe it will be hot.
Speaking of funky weather, here in TX, at least where I live it has been raining for weeks now. Porbably close to a month, it's been pouring like it never does here.
This should be our hottest time of the year and we are looking at 69 degrees F. That is crazy.

Ocean currents probably do not directly affect gobal warming, but they do affect it indirectly by changes in ocean circulation that can cause huge climate changes in certain regions, some may get colder, some hotter; but it doesn't neccesarly affect the global average temperature.
But to really understand this you must understand ocean currents and how they work and how everything is connected. The familiar lesson (at least for me)is of the fact that "no away"

Here are a couple of sites I found that reference what I have mentioned:

Sex Change frogs

Pictures of other frog mutations


Lets get "Edumacated, YeAh!!!!1".....For all we know MAN-MADE Global warming could be a scam.....Al Gore, the global fear mongering king, has one of the highest electric bills in the world...along with one of the biggest carbon footprint.......On top of that 98 was not the warmest year on record 1934 was...Now global temps have been dropping...See my post in main forum for more.
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