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 Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:53 pm
(Hopes this makes sense)
There are probably several people out there, wanting a change and not doing anything about it. Too many things in the society is wrong, and enough people see it, but no one does a thing...
If they want change then, yes revlot! In our system of Government the most that could happen is jailed for disturbing the peace, beacause all it is doing is expressing personal opinion with others with the same idea.
I hope the revolution that will happen in eventually will be beneficial and when someone gets organized and when it will begin to make a difference, then people will be joining.
So...Stop bitching and start a revolution
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:29 am
yokomotoz I've read up on Thomas Malthus. A long time ago and if I remember correctly the man was disproved in almost all his theories about population growth outstripping the production of food so to be honest I don't take him very seriously, if he was disproved once he can be disproved again.. Now what I find interesting is how you comment on how you can sit idly by while others are dying. It is that mentality which provides corporations with money, it is not a dog eat dog world and if you read up on dictators then you would know that many of the dictators then you would know that their rise to power is alway highlighted by the funding by large corporations and are backed by them and use their power to repay those corporations that funded them. Hence the CIA funded revolutions in Ghana, Iran, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Chile, Brazil, Colombia, Panama, Angola, Syria, Palestine, Lebanon, Guatemala. The formation of radical groups if you would read your history is also funded by opposition governments the Al Qaeda, the Contras, the Taliban, the Salvadoran Guard, Los Pepes, Bolivian Army, The Simba group, Saddam Hussein's Baath party were all funded by Western governments to overthrow legitimate governments. In this world of apparent conscience and a fight on global terror we must acknowledge a major perpetrator of international terrorism, to sit idly by and be a contradiction only fuels the power of these people and their crimes against humanity. That is what is wrong with Western thinking. Our lack of caring for those around us. Yes a dog eat dog world, but we should not be a lying contradiction in the dog eat dog world. Also Japan's technology is amazing however if a large economic depression hit Japan would be in the same position as it had been after the New York Stock crash, after the atomic bombs, and the invasion by the Allies. Their technologies and little games will not be able to provide for many people looking for food and basic necessities. When I refer to economic stability I refer to the age when those technologies become useless. How good will those factories be then?
Our lack of caring keeps us from becoming them. If we cared so much, we would end up in huts starving to death. Which would lead us to being the one of the people who needs the revolution. Which is why it isn't bad. Your asking the same question as "Why doesn't a millioniare give up all his/her money to charity?" Not only are they greedy, but the more money you have the more you fear becoming poor. I mean millioniares can be the nicest people you ever meet (or they can be annoying idiots) and not give all their money away. Look at the actors/actress, atleast half of them sponsor some sort of charity, and I'm sure about half of those do it for more than face value (cause face it unless your Tom Cruise, Johnny Depp, Orlando Bloom, or some other big name actor/actress your not going to be in the public eye at all times) But that is way off topic. Point being you can care, and still not care at the same time and that there is nothing wrong with western thinking. Atleast for me, I'd rather be rich than poor. I'm motivated by my wants and needs, not by those of people I've never met and probably never going to met.
You contradicted yourself. (bolded parts)
That funding is exactly why they are formed. Again dictators are out there for what they can earn just as everyone else in this world is. That is human nature, you should not say that humans should go against human nature. Society was created based on human nature and that is the only thing that motivates us to keep going. The idea that we can better ourselves, wether it envolves hurting others in the process or not. Samething about gaia, the idea that we can get richer and have a better looking avi or house motivates us to put more effort into it. That is human nature, and nothing is ever going to change that besides a massive revolution of society, which will not happen because it would involve going against human nature. It isn't even human nature, just nature period. Lions don't ask to kill their pray they take it and sare it with their group. That is what they do. Humans further themselves, that is what we do. Monkeys scratch their butts. That is what they do. Summing this up: Western thinking survives because it is basically built on the basics of nature itself. I'm not claiming that I completely agree with human nature, but it is something I have accepted. And if people would just accept this fact, alot of debates would be settled.
As for the question in the title: Yes some people do need them, but those revolutions would probably only lead to others needing them.
If I didn't bring something up, I probably agree with you on it or have nothing to add.
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 8:11 pm
i believe the belief of Thomas Jefferson, we need a good revolution every century or so. as written in the Declaration of Independence, those who have the power to see our governments flaws, has the responsibility to raise up and fix it. now i don't know about you, but our president has been in Iraq for a lot longer then intended, even though in his mind, we are not at war with them anymore, but he is still sending more and more troops over there, to just be shot and killed so our news can report on it, he signs bills that are passed, then after the signing, he adds in that the law does not apply to the president of the united states, he passes a law that lets him listen to our phone calls, search our houses, and look up files that are completly confidential, even without any suspicion of terrorism. not to mention our immigrants who get jailed for god knows how long, until an officer finds it convenient to question him, even if he isn't under any suspicion, all of which, clearly violate our constitutional rights, and those of our immigrants who are supposed to be protected under it once in the country. if that isn't enough of a reason for a revolution then i don't know what is.
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:13 am
people need noise, people need for something to happen, it's that "how is one person gonna help?" thought that destroys the world
the day, people stand up for themselfs, and simply say "we're not gonna take it anymore" (sorry for the twisted sister reference) the world would be a better place
things like corruption, power abuse and idiotic leaders can be easly solved with anarchy, just embrace it. anarchy is much beyond lack of authority, it's a way to live, it's a solution to many problems
the thought that "we need some one to solve our problems" leads to "we need some one to rule over us" more then easly, it's much more easyer get a shepherd then a good politician. humans (yes ALL humans) have a small problem of greedyness, the more power you have, the more power you need and want
sorry if i keep changing point over and over again, it's just my way to debate
knowing that the richest 2% of the world owns over 50% of the riches, does irritate and affect everyone, people in africa die of starvation cause a boy somewhere wants a new Wii (no offense to people who want Wiis or any other consoles, it's just an example) the unites states and canada are responsible for about 30% of the world's total consumption, and are populated by about 5% of the world's total population (yeah, that sounded strange, populated, population, to repetitive)
one day people will stop taking this crap, and will fight back, i hope. i will probably not live to see this day, but it will come, sooner or later
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:58 pm
3% of the world is debating over what should be done in the world,while the other97% is debating what type of Doritos they should make to put it simply, some care some dont. most dont care if some deadly viris(pardon spelling in 5th grade)is spreading over africa, they care if they get a Benz for cristmas.
this human race is ******** up thats how the govement wants it. revolt?sure! me? no.its just how the worlds spins.
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:56 pm
Ginta27 3% of the world is debating over what should be done in the world,while the other97% is debating what type of Doritos they should make to put it simply, some care some dont. most dont care if some deadly viris(pardon spelling in 5th grade)is spreading over africa, they care if they get a Benz for cristmas. this human race is ******** up thats how the govement wants it. revolt?sure! me? no.its just how the worlds spins. Wow for a fifth grader who can't spell your certainly don't have trouble using those cuss words. stare Loser.
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 3:06 pm
marshjazz Ginta27 3% of the world is debating over what should be done in the world,while the other97% is debating what type of Doritos they should make to put it simply, some care some dont. most dont care if some deadly viris(pardon spelling in 5th grade)is spreading over africa, they care if they get a Benz for cristmas. this human race is ******** up thats how the govement wants it. revolt?sure! me? no.its just how the worlds spins. Wow for a fifth grader who can't spell your certainly don't have trouble using those cuss words. stare Loser. i dont and im not
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 6:18 pm
3 words: NORTH KOREA......CUBA
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 6:20 pm
Ginta27 marshjazz Ginta27 3% of the world is debating over what should be done in the world,while the other97% is debating what type of Doritos they should make to put it simply, some care some dont. most dont care if some deadly viris(pardon spelling in 5th grade)is spreading over africa, they care if they get a Benz for cristmas. this human race is ******** up thats how the govement wants it. revolt?sure! me? no.its just how the worlds spins. Wow for a fifth grader who can't spell your certainly don't have trouble using those cuss words. stare Loser. i dont and im not UM I AM NOT PART OF THAT 97% AND I THINK UR ARE WAAAAYYY STERIOTYPIN THIS. BUT I AGREE WITH YOU SAYIN THAT THIS WORLD CAN BE PRETTY @!#%$ UP. BUT THE OTHER 3% OF US ARE TRYIN TO MAKE IT BETTER. UNLIKE OTHER PPL WHO JUST COMPLAIN LIKE U GINTA AND DO NOTHIN 2 CHANGE ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 8:35 am
Just because you don't think communism is right, doesn't nessicarily mean they need a revolution. Just somethng to keep in mind.
Ah! Once again, the caps burns! burning_eyes
Most statistics are made up on the spot. And sence he didn't link to a source, they are deffinately made up. No need for the exclimation points. In the end, no one really does anything to solve the worlds problems. They try, but no has yet to actually solve all the worlds problems.
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:48 pm
east_side_gunslinger Ginta27 marshjazz Ginta27 3% of the world is debating over what should be done in the world,while the other97% is debating what type of Doritos they should make to put it simply, some care some dont. most dont care if some deadly viris(pardon spelling in 5th grade)is spreading over africa, they care if they get a Benz for cristmas. this human race is ******** up thats how the govement wants it. revolt?sure! me? no.its just how the worlds spins. Wow for a fifth grader who can't spell your certainly don't have trouble using those cuss words. stare Loser. i dont and im not UM I AM NOT PART OF THAT 97% AND I THINK UR ARE WAAAAYYY STERIOTYPIN THIS. BUT I AGREE WITH YOU SAYIN THAT THIS WORLD CAN BE PRETTY @!#%$ UP. BUT THE OTHER 3% OF US ARE TRYIN TO MAKE IT BETTER. UNLIKE OTHER PPL WHO JUST COMPLAIN LIKE U GINTA AND DO NOTHIN 2 CHANGE ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well i disagree with this whole save africa thing. Yes I no people r suffering in africa. I hate the fact ppl r suffering in africa. But some times not doing anything at all is the best thing. The only selfless way to think about something as a whole is a planet not whos dieing rite now but who is coming and how it will be for them. The world is over populated and truly i don't think ppl r dieiong quickly enough.The world can only support so much and when the day comes that enough resources r here to get to the entire world. ppl have to suffer and die to better the planet which is the best thing in the long run. you just have to be thankful and consider yourself lucky ur not the one suffering and hope it won't be u suffering in the future. ppl have to feel emotional and physical pain to keep the planet running cause if everyone in africa gets magically cured of their aids then the planet will suffer which is wat we should doing our best to avoid.
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:09 pm
OK I NO I JUST POSTED BUT I'M MAD. PPL, DEATH NEEDS TO HAPPEN WE NEED TO SIT IDLE BY AND SAVE THE PLANET THE PLANET CAN ALWAYS HEAL ITSELF YES BUT IT WILL EVENTULLY GET TO THE POINT OF OUR DESTRUCTION IF A MASS MURDER DOESN'T HAPPEN. AND GUESS WHERE IT'S MOST LIKELY TO HIT, ANY COUNTRY THAT IS IN CLOSE-QUATERS OR ALREADY DIEING. NOW BEFORE U GO OFF BE MINDLESS IDIOTS BELEIVING WHOEVER STANDS 4 SAVE THE PPL, TAKE INTO MIND THE FACT THAT THE POPULATION IS SUFFERING BECAUSE OFF PPL THINK EVERYONE DIEING DESERVES TO BE SAVED, AND THEY DO BUT YOU HAVE TO SIT IDLE AND HOPE THEY GO PAINLESSLY AND HAPPILY. YOU CAN'T SAVE EVERYONE, JUST THE ONES WITH THEIR HEADS STILL ABOVE THE WATER.(meaning ones that aren't marked 4 death)
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:21 am
just a question....
would it be possible that in fact what is wrong in the world are the potentates that sustain global economy... could it be possible that the western approach to all the world's problems can be considered terrorism... do we need a superprotective state supervising what they consider to be best for the world... do we intend to globalize through another era of conquest like in the renaissance, imposing ideas to the heathens... are we so desperate that our security will fall if we're not a superpower..................
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