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 Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:27 pm
Let's discuss what other religions believe happens after death.
We talked about this is seminary today, and I find it interesting what other religions belive, and their reasons for those beliefs.
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 6:47 pm
I'm intrigued by systems who do not see time as linear, but instead cyclical. Seeing time from either frame is based on our observations of the world around us. Interesting how one can come to two seperate conclusions from looking at the same stuff? The person who thinks time is linear puts clean starts, middles, and ends to things; they see this at birth, life, and death. The person who thinks time is cyclical sees the exact same thing, but sees startings coming out of endings.
After death views that involve cyclical time appear to tend towards reincarnation of some sort while those that rely on linear time see some 'end' point like union with a universal soul or transcendence into a blissful afterlife for eternity.
Could post a bit more on this topic, but I've had a long day and am just checking in real quick. wink
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 9:18 pm
Spiritualism does. But they also try to contact the spirit realms and explore their various past lives.
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 1:17 pm
Birth -> Life -> Death -> Rebirth -> Life...etc.
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:26 pm
Our bodies cease working and begin decaying (unless very well embalmed . . . ) obviously. Our minds and what makes us appear and act differently cease to exist. Only the light of God within us, that which animates us, continues existing as part of the infinite being that is God.
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 6:49 pm
When we die, our ba (True Soul) and our ka (Personality, who we are in this life) Are greeted by Yinepu and Nebt-het. Yinepu guides the soul to the hall of Two Truths (Hall of Ma'ati) It is there we profess the 42 confessions of faith (the 42 principles of Ma'at) before Yinepu takes our ka and weighs it before Wesir, Aset, Heru and Djehuty agianst the feather of Ma'at, the symbol of universal order and truth. Should we pass the test, we are welcomed into the Duat, the fields of Ra to enjoy eternity amongst the Gods and Goddesses. Should our ka outweigh the feather, sentence is pronounced, our ka is destroyed and our ba is sent to be reborn to atone for our sins and make a fresh start.
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 12:14 am
What happens next? That would depend on the circumstances.
If you die in battle then you go to Valhalla and join the ranks of those soldiers who wait to fight in Ragnarok.
OR there are some after life alternatives. Check out these holiday packages for the newly deceased:
Hell
Otherworld
Heaven
Summerland
Reincarnation
Nothingness
Millyways
Hel
Niflheim
Purgatory
Limbo
Your slection of places seen in life (as a ghost)
A long corridor towards a bright light where you see deceased relatives and loved ones waiting for you
And these are just a few of the places you can fly with Death Airlines.
But really, who knows? Perhaps we go wherever it is we believe we go. Perhaps when our body begins to cease function and our brain begins to shut down, our consiousness is lifted from it's mortal shell and carried away to a place where it would be happy.
But that's just like the question: Does god make man or does man make god?
If the world is what we make of it, or it is perception that shapes our reality, could it not also be true for a metaphysical follow up to our life here? Could our beliefs shape what is to come? In the same way they decide if that glass of water is half full or half empty.
It's a frightening but wonderful mystery to ponder. The truth is we'll never really know until we're there. And once we're there we can't exactly come back to tell the tale can we?
Or can we?
People who have experienced NDEs (Near Death Experiences) talk of the afore mentioned long corridor with the light and the deceased loved ones and relatives waiting for you like some kind of airport scene (As Dane Cook put it) and then waking up again like some kind of dream. This even happening in the case of total lack of brain activity and bodily function.
Others speak of floating above their body and looking down as they die or being carried off somewhere else in the world to witness events happening where they are not. These people wake up to relate their experience to those around them whom listen on amazed to see the near dead know things they could not possibly have seen or known.
Allow me to break from the humour and my almost-scientific recount of things chronicled by baffled scientists. Let me now put in my own little thoughts on the workings of the universe in what is perhaps spiritual light.
It would seem to be preposterous to think that all... THIS. Yes this, this you see around you and that what you don't see. This world, this universe, multiverse and existance of it all. The fact that there is life even hear on our little rock seems proof of something more. It seems rediculous to think that the existance of anything comes down just to a chance occurance. You may argue that there has to be something, but does there? And does there have to be life?
Some athiests may say that life is just an accident and that the universe began from the big bang. But even this theory of the big bang does not account for all - Why was there anything to bang in a big way (mind the innuendo) in the first place? And why did it bang so big? It doesn't make any sense to me to consider it was all just a freak chance. In fact it only makes sense to imagine there is something more happening in the universe - Or perhaps out side it.
So if this is so, would any creator really create life and our sentient existence just to see it disappear over the course of eighty years? Or more? Or less? That would be cruel and, well, pointless.
I personally believe everything happens for a reason and I struggle to believe this is it. What you see can not be what you get in this case.
But coming back to the matter of life after death, religion has the answer but there are so many religions and different ideas in them. Are any right? Who knows! Maybe they're all wrong. Yes even the athiests. Atheism is a religion, like it or not. Like I said earlier, we simply can not know until we're there and then it's too late to tell anyone who doesn't already know.
And what do I personally believe? Nothing. I've tried to believe in a number of things but in the end I can't just go on faith alone for answers. I don't have to see to believe but I need something more to go on than some stories written two thousand years ago or six thousand years ago or fifty years ago or even last thursday.
I believe there is something but I don't know what. Though I sure do wish they'd tell me.
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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:21 pm
we believe that after youre body has ceased to function(death) that you are given series of tests if you pass then you are judged if you then pass the judgment you may be guided by a cat spirit to youre ansectors star hearth (unlike humans who have soooooo many diffrent connection, you belong to youre wives family and you will join them after you die(you may visit youre own familys star hearth but you cannot stay)
if you do not pass the tests though you are re-born(this will happen until you can pass the tests and then take judjment)
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:50 pm
Here is how I see it:
Death (murder, sickness, natural cause, etc.)>Nothingness.
Show me hard, solid facts that there is something else, and that might change.
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