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Tiger of the Fire

PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 10:59 am


I beilive this calls for the very short and very simple lexture that we most likely got from our teachers and parents when we were in pre-school

Two wrongs do not make a right.
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 1:21 pm


except i'm not sure what i'm doing wrong

i'm sharing something that happened to me. FIRST HAND. Not gossip, not slander, freaking history man. Again i understand why it's not acceptable in the guilds because it just starts a war, but on the other hand, i don't see why it's wrong either.

I don't know how i feel about hitting, back, but i wasn't hitting back, i was relating something. That's all.

andyz cool


Tiger of the Fire

PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 7:26 pm


Okay, I see what your saying. Sure, it may not be wrong, but it's not safe either, which oyu have stated clearly you recognize and understand. Its better to be safe then sorry.
PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 6:00 am


cool.

that being said, back on topic:

La Veuve Zin
Winged Isis
I have been giving this bodily integrity matter some thought and I'd like to throw something out to this guild.

1. An adult severely injures or kills a woman. He is caught and in a trial given an appropriate sentence. Can anyone disagree with this?
2. A 3 year old gets hold of a gun that was not stored properly and shoots and kills his mother. This is rightly judged an accident, by a child that is under the age of reason. If anyone is going to be punished, it will be whoever owns the gun. Again, can anyone disagree with this?
3. A healthy woman finds herself pregnant. It is a normal pregnancy with a healthy fetus. The woman aborts anyway.


Given:

A fetus has even less comprehension than a 3 year old.

In a healthy pregnancy, the woman does not die, but makes a full "recovery."

To make this even closer to an aborted pregnancy situation, imagine this crazyness:

I, in a roguish House-esque whim, am taking my break in the private hospital room of a guy in a deep coma. The man has the potential to recover, but also might not. He has minimal brain activity, and is not aware of his surroundings. I'm sitting next to him, watching the Sabres pound the Senators into slush, eating pretzels.
Without warning, on some sort of bizzare, unconscious reflex, this patient swings his fist out and whacks me in the throat, nearly crushing my windpipe. In shock I aspirate my pretzel. Unable to speak, I flail around next to the bed until I kick over a commode. I grow bluer in the face until I'm completely unconscious from the hypoxia.
Eventually, the one nurse on duty looks up from her Lucky Panda Take-Out menu to investigate the commotion. Valiantly resuscitated by two nearby residents who just happen to resemble Zach Braff and Jesse Spencer, I escape death and make a full recovery.

Now imagine I demand this patient not only be absent for his trial, unable to plead his case in his state, but be executed for attempted murder.

Totally reasonable, right? Remember, kids, we're the crazy evil oppressive ones. 3nodding

andyz cool


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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 6:22 pm


Tiger of the Fire
I beilive this calls for the very short and very simple lexture that we most likely got from our teachers and parents when we were in pre-school

Two wrongs do not make a right.


OT, but I find that statement interesting considering your support for Arpaio. Perhaps he would do well to remember those words of wisdom.
PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 7:44 pm


Stay on topic Zehn.

La Veuve Zin
Winged Isis
I have been giving this bodily integrity matter some thought and I'd like to throw something out to this guild.

1. An adult severely injures or kills a woman. He is caught and in a trial given an appropriate sentence. Can anyone disagree with this?
2. A 3 year old gets hold of a gun that was not stored properly and shoots and kills his mother. This is rightly judged an accident, by a child that is under the age of reason. If anyone is going to be punished, it will be whoever owns the gun. Again, can anyone disagree with this?
3. A healthy woman finds herself pregnant. It is a normal pregnancy with a healthy fetus. The woman aborts anyway.


Given:

A fetus has even less comprehension than a 3 year old.

In a healthy pregnancy, the woman does not die, but makes a full "recovery."

To make this even closer to an aborted pregnancy situation, imagine this crazyness:

I, in a roguish House-esque whim, am taking my break in the private hospital room of a guy in a deep coma. The man has the potential to recover, but also might not. He has minimal brain activity, and is not aware of his surroundings. I'm sitting next to him, watching the Sabres pound the Senators into slush, eating pretzels.
Without warning, on some sort of bizzare, unconscious reflex, this patient swings his fist out and whacks me in the throat, nearly crushing my windpipe. In shock I aspirate my pretzel. Unable to speak, I flail around next to the bed until I kick over a commode. I grow bluer in the face until I'm completely unconscious from the hypoxia.
Eventually, the one nurse on duty looks up from her Lucky Panda Take-Out menu to investigate the commotion. Valiantly resuscitated by two nearby residents who just happen to resemble Zach Braff and Jesse Spencer, I escape death and make a full recovery.

Now imagine I demand this patient not only be absent for his trial, unable to plead his case in his state, but be executed for attempted murder.

Totally reasonable, right? Remember, kids, we're the crazy evil oppressive ones. 3nodding

Tiger of the Fire

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