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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 9:29 pm
The thread on adoption statistics for different races got me thinking: It seems that most people here are religiously-motivated in their pro-life ideals, meaning a child would likely be in wedlock and thus likely to be a wanted result of sex. For those who aren't abstaining from sexual encounters (of any faiths or lack thereof), at this point in your life would you put a child of yours up for adoption?
If so, what racial background are you? Do you feel it would, in your state, affect your child's likelihood of finding another family? Would you be comfortable with the idea that they may never find a home until they're adults? To what degree would you like to be involved in the child's life? Any other input you'd like to provide?
If not, what racial background are you? Would it affect your choice to keep your child, or would it have no bearings? Is it personal responsibility or the state of affairs of modern adoption that would drive you to raise the child? Finally, are there any other things you'd like to say about it?
If you plan to adopt, would race affect your choice of child? Why or why not? Would income bracket of the parents affect it, neediness, or your personal affinity with the child in question? Why? And of course...any other input?
I guess I'll start.
Race: White, but my boyfriend isn't.
Choice affected: Not really.
Why?: Personal responsibility, if I'm bringing a child into the world I'd damn well better be ready for the outcome and prepared to dedicate my life 100% to make sure they're happy and healthy.
Other things: Haha, not really. sweatdrop
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 9:41 pm
firstly, i am not really that religious. even if i was, the abortion debate has nothing to do with my faith. it's just not right to kill a person, born or not, for any reason. it's just unnecesary. and when it's for soemthing stupid, when the child is just 4 or 5 months from life... there is no excuse or need for that. no matter the final outcome of life, afterlife or no, everyone created deserves at least a chance at conciousness
as for adoption- it is at least a chance at life. true, there are faults. but ya know what? i'd rather take a risk than be dead for sure. if were we (we meaning whoever i happened to be with at the time, since it is all hypothetical) to have a child, i would like to try as hard as possible to raise it. if it wouldn't work out, then there is adoption.
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 9:52 pm
Nah, I'm not saying religion's the sole motivator. Frankly though as long as people are for saving lives I'm enthused about it. I've just noticed kind of a trend in the pro-life movement. Of course it make sense considering most religions being for the preservation of humanity. Any reason to want to preserve life's a good reason in my book.
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 10:15 pm
Religion really isn't my motivator at all. I don't form my political opinions based on what my religion says. At least, not as such; Obviously the same reasons I am Catholic would lead me to feel certain ways about things like abortion. 3nodding
If I were to somehow get a girl pregnant (It'd be a virgin birth at this point xd ), I think I would keep it. Even if I can't take care of it, I know that my mom would not mind taking care of another kid (There's already seven of us, five still in the house, what's one more?), though she would definitely mind what led to the kid. xd
Race: White
Does this affect your choice: Nope. I really don't think of the color of the skin at all when it comes to this; It's my personality and my parent's personalities.
Why?: I don't know. Personal conviction/selfishness. sweatdrop I couldn't let my own flesh and blood go live to someone else; 1. I'd feel like I was abandoning him or her, 2. I'd feel personally responsible for his or her well being, and wouldn't be willing to leave it up to chance, and 3. I love babies. whee I couldn't let my own go.
Other things: Er, not much else.
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 10:32 pm
Boy it looks like I'm gonna be eating the religion comment for a while, huh? xd
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 4:26 am
Dread Dionaea Boy it looks like I'm gonna be eating the religion comment for a while, huh? xd lol, I wasn't trying to sound insulted or anything, it just seemed like it was also a current subject. whee
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 2:22 pm
I'm 16 and having a kid but I would never give my kid up for adoption cause I know I would regret it.
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 2:42 pm
If I got pregnant today, I would not give it up for adoption. But if I had no possibility of taking care of the baby, I would consider adoption. It's a bit of a different thing in here, since the adoption system is a lot better than in many countries. I would not be worried about the child not getting parents, because I'm sure he/she would find a good home. It would hurt alright, but if it were for the better of the baby I would do it.
I dont think the race problem is much of an issue here, since there arent that many black people here. (I'm sure there's people in Finland who've never seen a real life black person.)
Also, I'm a bit in the woods here, about what word to use. So if I hurt someone, please say so, and I will fix it.
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 9:18 pm
Quote: For those who aren't abstaining from sexual encounters (of any faiths or lack thereof), at this point in your life would you put a child of yours up for adoption? First off, I am agnostic, and that has no affect on my opinion of abortion. A human life has value to me, it doesn't matter whether it comes from God, or from a person, and I think that's important.
Secondly, I AM sexually active, but also gay, so it wouldn't be easy for me to have a child just... normally, in a day to day situation for me. Unless I was really drunk and Lymelady took advantage of me. ( heart xd )
But in all seriousness, I know a gay guy who had a kid, and his ex takes care of him. So it -does- happen. Now if -I- were to get a girl pregnant, I would... I dunno. I sure as hell wouldn't like it if she was pro-choice, because that'd make me really sad if she even considered killing the child. If she was pro-life and wanted to keep it, I'd be willing to do that, even though it would require a LOT of work on my part, and a little owning up, I think it would be worth it, because I'd have a little... person that I created, and that's kinda really cool.<3 And if she wanted to adopt it to someone else, I'd accept that too. I'd have a little bit of difficulty letting go (okay, a LOT...) but I think that if I wasn't able to support it, and if a child just isn't in the cards for me now, I think another family would make it just as happy.
You could say I'm pro-choice for the woman... except if she wants to kill it. Reasonable, I think. heart wink Quote: If so, what racial background are you? Do you feel it would, in your state, affect your child's likelihood of finding another family? Would you be comfortable with the idea that they may never find a home until they're adults? To what degree would you like to be involved in the child's life? Any other input you'd like to provide? I'm a white person, and I live in Canada where everyone's pretty liberal and accepting of whatever choices you wish to make. And I think the system's actually pretty good down here. There are a lot of "group homes", where kids are able to live with other adopted kids, and get regular visits from social workers, there are plenty of gay couples down here that ARE able to adopt (without the flak you'd get for being gay and wanting kids in America...), and plenty of couples that want kids, so I wouldn't be worried, I'd just hope that any child of mine has a satisfying life.
And if I wanted to raise the child, I'd definitely need a better job, help to raise the child, Daycare (one of which my aunt owns, so I've got a good in at a good bilingual daycare if need be.), and diapers, and all that good stuff. But the social assistance in Canada's pretty good, so I think I'd have a lot of the help I'd need to raise a kid. Which is what I like about Canada. Less reason to abort (yet, it's a choice that is widely talked about as being perfectly fine here, far too often.)Quote: If you plan to adopt, would race affect your choice of child? Why or why not? Would income bracket of the parents affect it, neediness, or your personal affinity with the child in question? Why? And of course...any other input? Race has nothing to do with it, for me. I'd just want a child that I'd love, and who would love me, and who I'd be able to steer in the right direction, and care for, and just... all that great stuff that kids are good for.<333
And yeah, I definitely want to adopt. As soon as I find a man who's as passionate about kids as I am, and whom I love, and can settle down with.
Whew. Hella long post, but I needed to say a lot. XD
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 9:24 pm
I know my family would be supportive if I got pregnant at any time, and I know they'd help me raise a child. Even if I didn't need help, I'm sure they'd be involved in my baby's life anyways.
I kind of understand why some women say they could have an abortion, but not give up a child for adoption--they're thinking of killing an egg vs. giving away a baby they've lived with for nine months. Carrying a fetus to term and then giving it away would be difficult, but the best option if I couldn't take care of it. Certainly much better than just killing it... rolleyes
I doubt my race would influence my decision. I don't buy into the whole "only healthy, cute Aryan babies get adopted the rest, like, DIE or something!" I plan to adopt children. If I find I'm a good enough mother to take on the challenge, I'd be willing to adopt a child with disabilities or a chronic illness.
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 5:42 am
I don't know it would be hard. Unless I didn't have any other choice I don't think I could but I'm not in that situation so I can say 100 percent.
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:45 am
First off i'm agnostic and not religious but depending on the situation then yes I would most likely would give it up for adoption if I got pregnant and was not married (I would only abort if something was seriously wrong and neither me or the baby have a high chance of living).
As for race? Well I wouldn't be too worried about the baby finding a family cause of it.Ii'm mix with hispanic (both Spain and Mexican), Aative American (Tarascan, I hope I spelled that right), Asian (Siberian and Mongolian), and on my mom's side, Scottish,Dutch, and German. Also have a bit of French and probly some Middle Eastern and who knows what else. Nor would race really affect me if I really wanted to adopt (have no plans for kids at the moment).
If I did put up for adoption, I want an open adoption where I can have a choice of seeing them and so they get to know who their real mom is since they probly would wonder about it later on.
And no, not ever adopted child is "white" or healthy. Alot of them are drug babies.
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:47 am
...Okay, maybe I need to clarify. I don't think every adopted baby is white. What I was saying is that this was spawned in part by Winged Isis' thread on racial adoption statistics. These statistics clearly showed that in some states non-white babies were FAR more likely to get adopted. I was asking what your state was, what the state's most likely adopted race was, and how that correlated to your race.
P.S.: I'm atheist and there seem to be a lot of pagans here. I wasn't talking about the Christian right controlling adoption or whatever.
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