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I don't see why they seem surprised that it's underreported. I certainly wouldn't want to report it at first. If I sat back and thought that it might help stop someone from doing it to someone else, I would, but unless I thought about that, I wouldn't.

Now, as for rape being a woman's fault...Can I smack the person? Seriously. What the hell. Real pleasant guy. I feel like PMing him.

Of course it reflects negatively on lifers, the same way when someone who's pro-choice says something like women are stupid for being upset over miscarriages are reflecting negatively on choicers.

I do wonder, however, if I had an old classmate come on and voice his opinion on rape, bearing in mind he's pro-choice, and see if that in turn reflects negatively on you guys. Some of the things he says are quite infuriating. Your view on one thing and the people who support you in that (rape is the victim's fault) doesn't reflect on the view of another thing and the people who support that (abortion is as bad as murder). Otherwise, he would reflect negatively on you guys. In his case, though, he argues that abortion should be especially legal for rape (and a few other things) because women who get raped are stupid and not fit to be mothers. So does that reflect negatively on you? In a sense, yes, because he's using one belief to justify another (the believe that the two of you share), but in the broader sense, of course not because there are very few people who have the same justifications.

As a nation, the US does not fail entirely. I haven't seen anyone in here giving out misinformation on rape. In general, it isn't any more misinformation than is given out about a whole lot of other things. There's a lot of misinformation on simple things like cancer, water sanitation, genetics, dog breeding, AIDs, drugs, alcohol, the list goes on. Ask the average person on the street how many people in the country have AIDs, how many people in the country are raped, and how many people die from the flu each year. Chances are, the one most people will get wrong is the flu question; it's not put into public focus with awareness campaigns.

There are entire classes in school orientations devoted to avoiding rape, and rape information. What I do think is these classes are geared more towards women; I used to get awareness pamphlets all the time and my brother has never gotten even one.

See, I don't agree with you on that...but that's not what this thread is about so I won't get into that xd

And before a new topic is made about rape pregnancy, I actually did ask him in PM's if the post was going off topic and asked him if he should edit it, but it was his way of explaining how rape is in no way a woman's fault and he was even supporting how he felt about it by going a teeny bit off topic and saying that the woman shouldn't even have to keep a rape pregnancy, proving that he, as a lifer, knows it's not the woman's fault at all that she is raped. That's how I see it. A better way he could have said it was "Rape is in no way the woman's fault; in fact, despite how horrible abortion is, she should in this situation get this choice because it wasn't her fault at all."

Anyway... the guy is... not... well, I think he's probably trolling a little bit. sweatdrop How could anyone think it was the lady's fault... and are you allowed to namedrop him, Peer? I think he does make us Lifers look really bad, but from the way things look, everyone already hates us anyway. 4laugh

I know what divine meant, but I don't agree. If another topic opens, I'd be glad to explain why I don't agree.

Namedropping; I was going to mention it, but then I thought about it a bit.

It's true that you're just using him as an example; the person in question made the comment in public, and we're not threatening him. What might be more effective is linking to the post itself.

It's Miranda's ultimate decision. Of course, the safest thing to do is to just use the link without the name. That way, the point is proven but there's no danger. In this case, though, I'm not going to ask you to edit out the name, not if you don't feel like doing it, because it's not an insulting and bashing use of the person, just a prime example of pure....alright, I'll shut up. I will ask that people in here refrain from sending the author hatemail or making threats in this thread (or any other thread, for that matter).

Some crazy person who is against abortion and believes that rape is the fault of the victim (my guess is, he probably rapes/ wants to rape people -- and so is justifying it to himself -- of course I am horribly biased on the matter) is not representative of the Pro-Life community anymore than that crazy yelling chick on YouTube (what is she saying anyway?) is representative of the Pro-Choice community. They are just crazy people who happen to hold similar opinions on abortion as the sane(r) members of each group.

If there were a few dozen Pro-Lifers in there agreeing with this "Person X", that would look a bit worse on Pro-Lifers as a whole. But, I would say that very, very few Pro-Lifers (and probably a few Pro-Choicers as well) believe that rape victims should be blamed for their rape. It just isn't an opinion that many people hold, seeing as how most people actually know someone who has been raped, and know that it wasn't their fault.

ROFLMAO!

OMG OMG OMG OMG! Man, you got it RIGHT on the nose!

Excuse me for my brash game speek *ahem*. These idiots are not a representative of the majority of our stance, they are in fact nutters and extremists, people we tell to bugger off or bonk them in the head for being so illogical. Yet.. we get grouped with them and get called out that we act the same, and the pro-choicers aren't going to at anytime make the differences apparent.

We are, as a whole movement, just like this dude i seems like half the time.