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 Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 3:01 am
Interesting to note the dramatic change in our nation's political and social outlook since it's birth. America started as a rebel state, yet now the same dumbasses who have confederate flags painted on their trucks are voting for representatives who are against the rights of both states and individuals. Similarly, a few generations after the majority of our families traveled here, immigrants are second only to terrorists in the realm of popular disdain. Thirdly, and perhaps most troublingly, is how little our international behavior has changed despite all of this. Since manifest destiny and the subjugation of Native America (along with the conquest of a good portion of the South Americas), we've only continued to enforce our own brand of empire on all nations we encounter, if not millitarily than socially and economically.
So, considering a conservative president and squabbling congress presented with the opportunity to either benefit our nation and it's neighbors or royally ******** us over for a number of years to come, I can't help but be pessimistic.
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 4:48 am
[Q] Yes, the senate votes, but again, Bush could just pick another lesserknown Conservative Judge. During a Senate advisory committee's investigative process, there is no such thing as "lesser known." [Q] The Senators may vote on the President's decision, but the Senators can't pick the Judge. That's what I'm saying. And they could keep denying him until they either find a compromise or until either the senators or the president lose their office. [Q] Even with a Public hearing, and plenty of people going, "No, we need a moderate judge", Bush still has every right to defy his people and his committees, and appoint whoever the hell he wants. No, he doesn't. See the Constitution. [Q] Anyway, point being, I totally see Bush defying everyone simply because he can and he's an idiot. He's a poor speaker, but he's hardly stupid. In fact, quite the opposite. If he were stupid, then he wouldn't keep kicking our (the Democrats') collective asses at the polls. [Q] ... Although, now that I think about it, if the situation happens with the Judge that I mentioned, isn't that cause enough for the people to demand impeachment? Never was sure about the things you needed to do/have to try and get a President impeached. Again, see the Constitution. It wouldn't hurt to educate yourself before you start arguing opinions that you could easily convince yourself out of by just getting to know the subject. Nymtra Mortis Interesting to note the dramatic change in our nation's political and social outlook since it's birth. I assure both you and Q, that if you take the time to study historical trends in detail, you'll note that this country, like every other in the world, suffers from cyclical resurgencies of both liberal and conservative reactionism. It's also interesting to note that the arguments continue to be recycled, with conservatives continually shouting that this country is falling to the evils of liberalism thanks to the media and debaucherous government officials who want to destroy the family, and liberals claiming that conservatives are taking over the media and the government and keeping the country from growing out of its primitive and fanatical traditionalism. I really wish more people would stop thinking that Bush means the death of all life and we must leave this evil country that oppresses the world. It's really not that bad. Radicalism does not serve any purpose; it harms our desire to progress.
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:59 am
Howdy, stranger. wink Set a spell, have a dr- *Morris lands on Vague's shoulder and whispers in his ear* Oh? Err... *scurries off to do work* JoVo [Q] Anyway, point being, I totally see Bush defying everyone simply because he can and he's an idiot. He's a poor speaker, but he's hardly stupid. In fact, quite the opposite. If he were stupid, then he wouldn't keep kicking our (the Democrats') collective asses at the polls. I don't know. There's something about it all that doesn't quite add up. While it'd be foolish to underestimate his political machine, I don't think Shrub himself is as smart as the results suggest.
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 7:34 am
exclaim Nymtra! You posted! blaugh blaugh blaugh
And now I wonder...will you ever post again? sweatdrop
Nymtra's a friend of mine who has been lurking since...last summer? Yeah.
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:56 am
Vague I don't know. There's something about it all that doesn't quite add up. While it'd be foolish to underestimate his political machine, I don't think Shrub himself is as smart as the results suggest. He may just really be good at making the right friends. Certainly someone in his camp who believes he has the personality to win has been able to bring things together in such a way to make him so successful. I certainly don't think he's stupid. He reminds me of a silly frat boy, and silly frat boys may be silly, but they can make really good connections. EDIT: To add, this is not to say that he is a silly frat boy. Just like he's not a cowboy. These are all images he's managed to get attached to his name: part of his political strategy that has worked marvels for his career.
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 9:28 am
JoVo I assure both you and Q, that if you take the time to study historical trends in detail, you'll note that this country, like every other in the world, suffers from cyclical resurgencies of both liberal and conservative reactionism. It's also interesting to note that the arguments continue to be recycled, with conservatives continually shouting that this country is falling to the evils of liberalism thanks to the media and debaucherous government officials who want to destroy the family, and liberals claiming that conservatives are taking over the media and the government and keeping the country from growing out of its primitive and fanatical traditionalism. Well said and most agreed. I tend to fall into liberal rhetoric when I'm tired, as it suits a drowsy and vaguely angst-driven mood, most sorry. However, it should be noted that the cycle you mentioned is necessary, as it is what yields a balanced middle ground that most everyone can agree on (albeit grudgingly.) In essence, said cycle is the simplist of the checks and balances, I think.
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:44 am
Nymtra Mortis However, it should be noted that the cycle you mentioned is necessary, as it is what yields a balanced middle ground that most everyone can agree on (albeit grudgingly.) In essence, said cycle is the simplist of the checks and balances, I think. So John Mill would say, and I'd agree with him, too. 3nodding By the way, welcome to the guild!
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 6:23 pm
JoVo By the way, welcome to the guild! Thank you kindly, sir.
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 6:29 pm
Don't thank me for my excessive happy or anything. razz Or my introduction. Don't even say hi.
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 6:30 pm
Astri Don't thank me for my excessive happy or anything. razz Or my introduction. Don't even say hi. I've a much more personal greeting for you, milady... heart
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:05 pm
Nymtra Mortis I've a much more personal greeting for you, milady... heart Um... *puts Crew Hat on* ...back to the topic at hand...
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:37 am
Astri Nymtra Mortis I've a much more personal greeting for you, milady... heart To take Jack's expression: That's hawt.
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