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 Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:26 pm
s.o.l.e.m.n.-p.r.i.d.e. Yup! Thanks very much! >w< Although you have me curious about the smoking tobacco thing. They use 'nomu' as the verb for smoking? o_O (Don't get me wrong, I'm all against all forms of tobacco and I'm clean of it, but I'm still curious) Well they typically use 'suu' for 'to smoke' but I have seen 'nomu' used before in that case as well. Just in case you're curious 'suu' also means 'to breathe in/to suck'. An example of when to use suu is as follows: "tabako o suimasu ka." means "Do you smoke (cigarettes)?"
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:13 pm
regarding "yonde" and "nonde" as command form, I guess in a sense it is correct. Like I said, its not a strong as using the V+e verb pattern such as "yome" and "nome" (its also really rude.. crying )
To say "yonde" or "nonde", its more suggestive kind of like "Aww, come on, just read it" rather than "read it!" If you just look at it as telling someone to do something, then yes, it is a command form, but not condescending.
I hope that clarified it better.
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 8:00 am
Yup, definitely, thank you.
Wow, that's interesting..you add an i to suu to make it into masu form?
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 12:36 pm
hahahah, its not that simple.
I'm sorry if it confused you,but hopefully this will clear things up. The way that I teach verb forms are called 2-step and 5-step verbs. In "suu"'s case, it is a 5-step
あ、い、う、え、お。
a - su(wa)+nai -negative "do not smoke"
i - su(i) +masu -plain polite "I smoke"
u - su(u) -plain root form "to smoke"
e - su(e) +/- (ru/nai/masu/masen) - able to or not form (with the endings, without the endings, it is a command) "I can/cant smoke"
0 - su(ou) -plain form with 'lets'. "Lets smoke"
rather than just adding on the a,i,u,e,o the verb form changes to different meanings. If you want more information, I can go dig up a lesson I wrote awhile ago and post it smile
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 4:14 pm
Yeah..I always wondered why they were called 2 step and 5 step. o_O Thanks, I'd appreciate that lesson!
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:30 am
kaori_c hahahah, its not that simple. I'm sorry if it confused you,but hopefully this will clear things up. The way that I teach verb forms are called 2-step and 5-step verbs. In "suu"'s case, it is a 5-step あ、い、う、え、お。 a - su(wa)+nai -negative "do not smoke" i - su(i) +masu -plain polite "I smoke" u - su(u) -plain root form "to smoke" e - su(e) +/- (ru/nai/masu/masen) - able to or not form (with the endings, without the endings, it is a command) "I can/cant smoke" 0 - su(ou) -plain form with 'lets'. "Lets smoke" rather than just adding on the a,i,u,e,o the verb form changes to different meanings. If you want more information, I can go dig up a lesson I wrote awhile ago and post it smile That makes so much sense to me. xD I always get hung up on can/can't verb forms...
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